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Embrace Judeo-Christian culture and values! Is this politician serious?

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Post by Greatest I am on Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:17 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H2ED8A8RXeY

The apostle’s creed shows that Christianity is based on having to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that the guilty should be forgiven if a suitable human sacrifice is made to God.

I suggest that having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. Immoral regardless of the victim volunteering or not which is not the case with Jesus.

That is one of many moral tenets that have caused secular governments to reject Judeo-Christian culture and values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

The bible is a compilation of evil acts by a satanic God and no moral man would every push to have Judeo-Christian culture and values implemented as our law. The U.S. is the closes to that ideal and their jail statistics are the most dismal in the free world.

Would you promote Judeo-Christian culture and values?

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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:11 pm

polyglide wrote:DR, Sheldon, Perhaps commands are not an appropriate expression but I accept what the Bible says. All God's commands have been for the benifit of mankind.They would only have been inappropriate if mankind had not had a choice of accepting them or ignoring them.

What has that to do with you claiming "god does not make demands" and then ignoring the biblical quotes I offered that prove you were wrong? At least have the decency to acknowledge an error when you make it, otherwise why should anyone bother with your posts.

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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:13 pm

polyglide wrote:DR, Sheldon,  All God's commands have been for the benifit of mankind.

No they weren't, but that's not really the point you claimed god didn't make demands, and have roundly ignored my posts with the bible quotes that show you are wrong. now as per usual you ignore this and move onto another unevidenced claim, which is easy to prove wrong with biblical quotes, but why should I bother when you've already shown you'll ignore any post that you can't answer, and won't ever accept you've made an error?
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Post by Greatest I am on Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:10 pm

polyglide wrote:DR, Sheldon,
                 Perhaps commands are not an appropriate expression but I accept what the Bible says.

                 All God's commands have been for the benifit of mankind.

                 They would only have been inappropriate if mankind had not had a choice of accepting them or ignoring them.  

Do you see all of the commands given to mankind in the days spoken of in this clip as all benefitting mankind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

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Post by polyglide on Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:15 pm

Greatest I am,
I have had a look at what you request and all I can say is that as far as I am concerned, without knowing all the circumstances at the time in question, I have every faith that God acted in the best interests of HIS PEOPLE.
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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:30 pm

polyglide wrote:Greatest I am,
                   I have had a look at what you request and all I can say is that as far as I am concerned, without knowing all the circumstances at the time in question, I have every faith that God acted in the best interests of HIS PEOPLE.

How is it in the best interest of anyone to be drowned?

You still haven't acknowledged that god does in fact make demands as evidenced in my biblical quotes, why is that?
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Post by Greatest I am on Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:52 pm

polyglide wrote:Greatest I am,
                   I have had a look at what you request and all I can say is that as far as I am concerned, without knowing all the circumstances at the time in question, I have every faith that God acted in the best interests of HIS PEOPLE.

Sure.

Torturing and killing babies is always good for a people.

You have just shown us all what your faith has done with your morals.

Only a really vile set of morals would have a man say that there can somehow be some good in the torture and killing of babies.

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Post by polyglide on Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:22 pm

Greatest I am,
Could you please tell me the torture that took place.

If it was apparent that it was necessary for God to take action then it would be kinder to kill children than adults only and leave the children to die on their own.

However, we do not know the terminology used in the days in question and as I have stated previously I do not think anything prior to the birth of Jesus has anything to do with Christians of today.

No one knows the circumstances prevailing at the time in question nor the actual message meant for the people of that time.

Words can have different meanings and as far as I am concerned, I am happy to think there is a logical explanation that involves the gravity rather than the actual.
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Post by Greatest I am on Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:32 pm

You have just shown us all what your faith has done with your morals.

Only a really vile set of morals would have a man say that there can somehow be some good in the torture and killing of babies.

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Post by polyglide on Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:08 pm

Greatest I am,
I have never ever said there is good in killing anything, there may however be good reasons for doing so in some circumstances.

You have not shown me where children were tortured.

Tortured has many meanings.

Would you say that if it was the Law that a certain act demanded death that involved a whole nation, it would be kind to just kill the adults and leave the childred to their own devices?

No one as far as I am aware has said that killing anyone was good nor torturing anyone.

Without being aware of everything involved, the whole meaning regarding the times in question, I do not feel we are able to judge.

I realy do not want to think that you feel I would in any way agree to killing anyone, because you would be 100% wrong.

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Post by Greatest I am on Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:44 pm

polyglide wrote:Greatest I am,
                   I have never ever said there is good in killing anything, there may however be good reasons for doing so in some circumstances.

                  You have not shown me where children were tortured.

                  Tortured has many meanings.

                  Would you say that if it was the Law that a certain act demanded death that involved a whole nation, it would be kind to just kill the adults and leave the childred to their own devices?

                  No one as far as I am aware has said that killing anyone was good nor torturing anyone.

                  Without being aware of everything involved, the whole meaning regarding the times in question, I do not feel we are able to judge.

                   I realy do not want to think that you feel I would in any way agree to killing anyone, because you would be 100% wrong.

                               

Yet you follow and promote the ways of a God that does.
You wave Hitler's flag while saying you do note like his ovens. So to speak.


"I do not feel we are able to judge. "

Yet you have judged that what your God did was somehow justified.


"Tortured has many meanings."

Indeed, and one of those include creating the conditions where many children and babies will drown.

Strange that you say it is better to kill babies who will have to live without parents when your God has all the miracles he needs to keep them alive till old enough to fend for themselves.

Strange that you accept so readily that it is better to kill than to set the more humane conditions and cure the situation.

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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:40 pm

polyglide wrote:If it was apparent that  it was necessary for God to take action then it would be kinder to kill children than adults only and leave the children to die on their own.

Holy crap on a cracker, if ever a sentence showed that religious beliefs turn your brain to mush that must surely be it.
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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:42 pm

polyglide wrote: as I have stated previously I do not think anything prior to the birth of Jesus has anything to do with Christians of today.

So why did your god waste it's time with all that genocide and rapine if it was ultimately irrelevant? That's odd behaviour for an omniscient being which would by definition have known everything it was doing and saying was ultimately irrelevant.
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