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What next for the Tory Party?

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What next for the Tory Party?

Post by astradt1 on Sun May 29, 2016 6:05 pm

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We have had a thread for a long time called 'What now for the Labour Party......

Given the infighting and knife sharpening which seems to be gathering pace with in the Tory Party it is perhaps time for us to look at what we think, without gloating, the direction the Tory party is likely to take, who is likely to be the party leader.

There have been reports of 50 Tory MP being ready to sign the letter starting a leadership challenge no matter the outcome of the referendum but it would seem that some of the 'leading ' Brexiter's are in favour of Cameron staying as leader up to the next election even if in the event of an out vote!..........I wonder why that would be the case, are they looking for a scapegoat in case the negotiations on Britain relationship with the EU after an exit vote does not achieve what they have been promising or could it be that leading candidates feel they need time to let the party forget the divisions, back stabbing and hatred which has surfaced over the past couple of months?......

Could the Brexiter's really stay in the cabinet in the event of a remain vote as if nothing had happened or would they be seen as hypocrites given that they would have to support policies which they have been openly criticising as recently as today's 'open letter' about the plans for limiting immigration being unachievable even though they supported them during the past two general election..........
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by Phil Hornby on Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:55 am

We can always depend on the Eye.

With those credentials , she is surely a 'must' for the Tory faithful...and it would be such a comfort to the rest of us that it is her fair and unerring hand on the nuclear button...  Shocked

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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:56 pm

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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by Phil Hornby on Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:17 pm

Oh, come now , ow - it's MUCH worse than that...
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Andrea Leadsom 'to pull out of Tory leadership election' making May PM

Post by oftenwrong on Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:29 pm

Message received.  Message understood.

Clever girl!

Evidently much too bright to have remained enmeshed with the current Tory "wrecking machine" politics.

Just hope they don't now try to revive the Boris corpse.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by Phil Hornby on Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:32 pm

Leadsom Sums It Up...

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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:49 pm

It must now be difficult for David Cameron to avoid the charge of having shot himself in the foot - and the rest of us somewhere even more sensitive - by the intemperate referendum on Britain's EU membership. Although his failed attempt to control the dissenting Tory europhobes might simply have been attempted suicide.

Labour supporters should be grateful for the pause-for-breath engendered by the change of PM, and must now act quickly and decisively to present a united opposition. Or join the SDLP as an interesting but defunct footnote.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by witchfinder on Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:51 pm

The prospect of a Tory leader making very real attempts to take the centre ground is really big problem for Labour, and comes on top of all the other factors against Labour; The other really big problems been (1) wipeout in Scotland (2) the fiddling of the constituency boundries before the next election (3) the current upheaval in the Labour Party.

I really do not think that things have looked as bleak as this since 1983, and with a Tory primeminister using language we would more associated with Lib Dems and Labour, there is very little to cheer about for Labour supporters.

When things are going fine, people who are not particularlly political tend not to vote for change, I am merely been pragmatic, and accept that a large section of society are neither Conservatives nor Liberal / progressive.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by sickchip on Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:17 pm

witchfinder,

I think you're jumping the gun. We don't know the extent of the effect of leaving the EU yet. There may well be a good deal of ecomomic pain and suffering on it's way yet. If people begin hurting they might well vote for change.......of course, even in that event, Labour would have to have got it's act together.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by Ivan on Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:47 pm

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The prospect of a Tory leader making very real attempts to take the centre ground is really big problem for Labour
Surely you're not that naïve??  Shocked

"Where there is discord, we will bring harmony." (Thatcher)

"We will cut taxes year on year." (Major)

"I'm going to fix broken Britain. No top-down reorganisation of the NHS, no plans to increase VAT, no cuts to frontline services or Sure Start centres." (Cameron)

Haven't you noticed that Tories rarely reveal their true intentions? Rolling Eyes
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In Downing Street, the new leader promised to create a 'country that works for everyone'

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:12 am

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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by sickchip on Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:35 pm

Ivan,

Good points!

It's a shame there is no opposition party to speak of.......thanks to the PLP.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:16 pm

On the contrary, there are lots to choose from .... now two PLP challengers to Mr Corbyn's re-election, and the Kinnock lad apparently about to form an entirely new left-wing party.

Makes the still very divided Tory Party look almost homogenous.
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Re: What next for the Tory Party?

Post by sickchip on Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:02 pm

Divide and conquer.......a favourite Tory ploy.
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