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Post by astradt1 on Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:27 am

After 2 weeks in power it feels like it's time to start a thread on the alternative universe which Trump and his Trumpsters seem to be living in.....

Each day he reveals a new facet (alternative truth) of the place he lives in.

Today's alternative realities are that all bad poll ratings are FAKE and only good ratings are real......
The Press have under reported terror attacks such as Paris, Florida and 70+ others in spite of wall to wall coverage in the media and press.......
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:18 pm

"Almost half of British voters oppose Trump State Visit"

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/761821/trump-petition-latest-poll-president-visit-uk-yougov-statistics

That's the Leader of the Free World, folks - and we don't seem to want him here.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by moonbeam on Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:33 pm

Well, we don't want him here, either. At least, those of us who are (mostly) sane don't. silent
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by sickchip on Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:09 pm

A few years back I remember discussions on MSN about how humankind seemed to be regressing as opposed to progressing.......how apt that seems in this depressing day and age.

I believe it is the lack of organisation amongst the lower classes, the fragmenting of communities, the dumbing down despite the wealth of info on the web, and the buying into financial obligations that push many into corners of self-preservation even if it means backstabbing work colleagues etc. All these things dissipate the ability to form an effective response to, or change the course of, the neo-liberal capitalist steamroller. We have reached a point where only catastrophe can change our course.

Everything is connected.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:25 pm

sickchip wrote:A few years back I remember discussions on MSN about how humankind seemed to be regressing as opposed to progressing.......how apt that seems in this depressing day and age.

.... dumbing down despite the wealth of info on the web....

Or perhaps because so much info is available on the web. We don't even try to remember things any more, in the knowledge that you can google a query. That complacency comes back to bite us on the bum when there's a power-cut, or the 'pooter throws a fit.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by astradt1 on Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:23 am

Donald J. Trump ‏
'Majority in Leading EU Nations Support Trump-Style Travel Ban'
Poll of more than 10,000 people in 10 countries...

What is the population of Europe?
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:17 pm

bit more than that - not a very representative sample - but that's the narrative the media want, so they won't be asking anyone else
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Can we spot "fake news" when we see it?

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Try a test:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/only-4percent-of-people-could-spot-the-fake-news-stories-in-these-headlines-%e2%80%94-can-you/ss-AAmJbHb?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by moonbeam on Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:14 pm

I missed the one about Iceland. Got the rest correct. Somewhat amazing, given I am not what you would call a "newsie".
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US Supreme Court rejects Trump Appeal

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:01 pm

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-court-refuses-to-reinstate-trumps-travel-ban/ar-AAmNdfV?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

So that's the end of that then. Trump will accept defeat, won't he? Perhaps not. He's a dealmaker, and he likes to win. The greatest satisfaction comes when he can say, "I win - you lose".

Can he outsmart the Lawyers? If not, it won't have been for lack of trying. Watch that space.

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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:09 pm

I suspect Trump may be only the front man for a group of right wing 'patriots' much cleverer than he is - recent events I think may be a bit of a smokescreen designed to make us all take this government less seriously - which gives time for the real agenda to develop in the background - and that's what really scares me
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:32 pm

Wow, boatlady!  You're threatening to turn into a cynic.  But it's entirely believable that Trump could easily be manipulated.  He really hasn't shown much maturity of intelligence so far.  He's possibly only The President because he was curious to discover just how gullible people really can be.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:01 pm

I was always to some extent a cynic about the behaviour of ruling elites - just don't think their behaviour should affect my own principles and behaviour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ECUtkv2qV8
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Penderyn on Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:33 pm

Trump is exactly the equivalent of the fat, spoilt young of 'divine right' kings whom everyone has to pretend to respect and obey. I agree with boatlady that someone has to be running him: all he can do by himself is have tantrums.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:22 pm

It is evident that a number of Trump's appointments are ambitious men of a similar calibre to those who surrounded Bush following 9/11. Things are not looking good for the little people.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:49 pm

Might be time to change your avatar OW - getting uncomfortably close to the truth
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:04 pm

Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself

From an article by Frankie Boyle:-

"Trump cares about the same things a member of noughties rap outfit G Unit cares about: women, money and vengeance. Yet, random though it seems, his fight with the judiciary could well be tactical. He will blame them for the next act of terrorism that occurs then declare a state of emergency where everybody has to stay indoors while his tweets are read out over a Tannoy. My best guess at the great man’s next move is the hoisting of an enormous burning eye above Trump Tower. It’s a building for which the words tacky and gaudy somehow seem too jolly and frivolous. Close up, it looks like the memory stick where some giant alien sex-killer stores his worst atrocities.

You have to say it’s surprising that, with so much to work with, the response from the Democratic establishment has been to suggest that Trump is a Russian spy. How could he possibly keep a secret? He almost never stops talking, seemingly delivering a live feed of his internal monologue, using national television appearances to ramble about murdering terrorists’ families and blurt out fantasies about torture.

Trump is at war with ‘Saturday Night Live’. He thinks it’s horrible and yet he can’t stop watching. Pretty much the same as how the world feels about him. How can he expect to escape ridicule? Being on reality TV is the closest he ever got to reality. His children look like a teen movie about Wall Street vampires directed by Uday Hussein. He has cultivated a square face that’s the shade of a banned food colouring and the muscle tone of a coma patient.
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For the whole article:-
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by astradt1 on Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:41 pm

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
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The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!

Bold added by poster...

So is Trump saying that his appointees have been in touch with Russian Intelligence for more than a year?

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
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Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia

Is this the very same FBI which announced it was going to investigate Hillary Clinton just weeks before the US election?

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Feb 14
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The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

Notice he does not call them lies just leaks............
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Stox 16 on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:37 pm

Trump is like some villainous character from some James Bond film. a sort of very bad Auric Goldfinger but without the laughs.
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This is the part I like

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:58 pm

astradt1 wrote:....Is this the very same FBI which announced it was going to investigate Hillary Clinton just weeks before the US election? ....

The Biter bitten! Can we now expect Trump to order a re-run of the Election?

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Please, nobody say afterwards "We hadn't been warned".

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:12 pm

WW2 rescued the US economy. Manufacturing for War provided full employment.
Trump seems to be anticipating a re-run.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/serious-threat-of-war-in-brexit-trump-world/ar-AAn1sq3?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

Will no-one rid the world of this turbulent man-child?

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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:47 pm

Former Republican judge calls for Donald Trump to be 'impeached and removed with all haste'

"In any time except our post-factual era, no office holder, much less the president, could get away with any one of the dozens of dazzlingly illegal things Trump has already done. They would forfeit office immediately. Who knows what happens next. Each new day is a new nightmare. We are still trying to digest one breathtaking assault on America when another is signed, issued, or tweeted. All this amid constant lies. Constant. Lies."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-impeachment-republican-judge-mark-painter-cincinnati-court-of-appeals-a7583031.html
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:09 pm



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Q42vDW8AAGoKl.jpg
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by moonbeam on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:14 am

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:08 pm



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5r72WuWQAACGeR.jpg
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Post by boatlady on Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:43 pm

lol!
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:04 pm

This is the latest cover of the German weekly news magazine 'Der Spiegel'........ afraid


https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/03/05/17/derspeigel.jpg

John Schindler, a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counter-intelligence officer, writes: "What’s certain is that KremlinGate isn’t going away, and the president’s bizarre efforts to make his links to Moscow a non-story have only made it a bigger one. Now the media is more curious than ever about Trump’s Russian connections, and no amount of chanting 'fake news' will alter that. Neither will Team Trump’s obsession with the alleged 'deep state' save them from awkward questions."

http://observer.com/2017/03/kremlingate-donald-trump-russia-white-house-bugged/

Schindler has tweeted that he's "confident any serious investigation of #TrumpRussia will find enough intel to end Trump's admin and send people to jail". Let's hope he's right and that it happens soon.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by astradt1 on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:34 am

TrumpCare v Affordable Care Act (or to a Red Neck Obamacare)

https://twitter.com/JeffK_BanGMOs/status/839278565522878464/photo/1
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:02 am

Trump and his cronies seem intent upon taking control of the USA in the manner of a hedge fund, as Kraft Foods took over Heinz and separately European firms such as Cadbury's.
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:17 pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fudSCU1-U9g
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by moonbeam on Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:27 pm

My coworker and I just watched that video. Hilarious!
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Stephen Hawking: I fear I may not be welcome in Donald Trump's US

Post by oftenwrong on Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:56 pm

You and many others, Prof!

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The US may wake up to a rather larger bill, four years from now ...

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:48 pm

Trump family's extravagant lifestyle 'costing US Secret Service extra $60m'

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Re: Trump's alternative universe

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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by Ivan on Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:07 am

The first thing a dictator does is to install his family and conspirators in positions of power, in order to insulate the demagogue who heads the coup.


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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by astradt1 on Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:33 am

Now we know why Trump said he didn't need Briefings from the US Intelligence Agencies...

He has his own sources, which he reveals in his tweets...  

Why doesn't Fake News talk about Podesta ties to Russia as covered by FoxNews or money from Russia to Clinton - sale of  Uranium?

Watch foxandfriends now on Podesta and Russia!

Watch JudgeJeanine on FoxNews tonight at 9:00 P.M.

FOX NEWS ALERT: Jihadis using religious visa to enter US, experts warn (via FoxFriendsFirst)
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:42 pm

We really are in Disneyland, aren't we?
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by moonbeam on Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:51 am

No, because at least Disneyland is supposed to be fun. Sad
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Re: Trump's alternative universe

Post by boatlady on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:34 am

Was the nearest analogy I could think of - in place of Tinkerbelle et all we seem to have got a load of rich white guys waving their magic wands and transforming reality - I think it's a similar mindset, only aiming at a different effect - currently, the only thing that gives me any hope is that at least I can still ignore Donny if I want to
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Changed? What do you mean, changed?

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:12 pm



Remember that amusing little critter the American's elected?  How we laughed at his antics!

Such a shame they have to grow up.



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