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Inequality on TV

Post by NIN on Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:52 pm

Every once in a while i like to have a cuddle(doze off) with the missus whilst she watches her soap operas,,a few weeks ago an episode of eastenders showed 2 gay men after they had gotten out of bed, wearing nothing but pyjama bottoms and their bare chests and kissing and touching each other(which made me feel nauseus,,but i digress),,i turned to our lass and asked her when were we going to see roxy mitchells bare chest or janines?,,would we ever see a lesbian in albert square who would seduce tamwars missus and would we get to see them kissing and fondling each other with only their bottom halfs covered up after just getting out of bed,,anyway our lass told us to shut up as i was doin her head in,,but my point is,,why is it acceptable at prime time to show the naked chests of gay men while been intimate and not those of the female cast?


appears a little sexist and one sided to me,,,,,,,,and where are the lesbians in albert square?,,,,i know there have been many gays,,,but no so much on the lesbian front,,if eastenders can give us softcore gay scenes then why cant it give us soft core lesbian scenes too?.
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Re: Inequality on TV

Post by astra on Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:26 pm

I can see this thread roasting like the god thread did elsewhere.


Did ye no' ken that thon misfits are allowed tae dae as they like in decent society and get away with it. Just go to Stowell Street in Newcastle upon Tyne of a weekend's evening to see what I mean. Complain and they are on top of you like a nest of angry wasps! Even the Police have been told, instructed to back off (sic) in this area!

As far as I am concerned, people can do as they please in the privacy of their own four walls, just do not expect me to turn the other cheek, or a blind eye to these shennanigans when (via TV) I invite a Television Company into my front room.

And no! I am no prude.
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Post by Shirina on Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:59 pm

The more flesh exposed, the more the female cast member can (and will) demand to get paid. It's not that bare breasts are never shown on television (they are, but only on certain high-tier cable channels). But for a regularly broadcast show like Eastenders, they're saving a bundle of money by keeping the women clothed, and they are also able to keep the show in a time slot that is watched by more people. The more people who watch, the more the network can charge businesses to advertise during the show. So it all comes down to money, money, money rather than sexism.
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:20 pm

Anyone with a Sky dish can view unclad ladies through the night on the "adult channels". I don't know how I came by that information, I must have overheard two other people talking about it.
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Post by NIN on Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:23 pm

sorry Shirina i dont agree,,you say that by keeping the women clothed they are able to broadcast at prime time,,,,,,which is my question,,why at prime time and during sunday afternoons is it acceptable to show borderline softcore half naked homosexuality and not ok to show borderline softcore halfnaked lesbianism,,i would pay extra on my license to see roxy mitchell kissing janine whilst stroking her hips as their naked breasts lightly rub against each others and their bottoms pull the fabric of the jimjam bottoms tighly around their backsides so you could see their thongs?.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:16 pm

There now follows a short intermission during which I shall be making a cup of tea. But stay out of the kitchen... Shocked
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Post by Shirina on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:44 pm

sorry Shirina i dont agree,,you say that by keeping the women clothed they are able to broadcast at prime time,,,,,,which is my question,,why at prime time and during sunday afternoons is it acceptable to show borderline softcore half naked homosexuality and not ok to show borderline softcore halfnaked lesbianism

Showing women's breasts is considered nudity ... even pornography by some. In North Carolina, USA, even strippers in nightclubs have to keep their actual nipples covered. As to why that is? I don't know. One would have to do a lot of digging around in historical archives to find the origin of that taboo, but it exists here as it does in the UK. Men do not have breasts (if the man is of a proper weight, that is) so no one deems a man's bare chest as "nudity." In the US, I can drive around a neighborhood and see many a bare-chested man mowing a lawn - not that I WANT to see that in most cases - but unless a town has a specific ordinance, there are no laws against public exposure of a male chest. Thus, it can be shown prime time on television.

Until society finds it acceptable for women to run around topless in public, hard-core bare-chested lesbianism on prime time television will not be seen. Is it a double-standard? Perhaps. But the morality of modesty has always been carried mostly on female shoulders in nearly every culture. Some more so than others as you probably know. I make no value judgments on this, but merely telling you the way it is. Quite honestly, I am rather grateful for this code of morality; I am not at all too thrilled about the male bare chests I often see. It's not as if most of these men are Olympic body-builders, if you take my meaning. As a female, I would like to see even less other women's breasts flopping about.

But I will leave you this tidbit. The female breasts are considered sexual. They invite arousal in most normal men and therein I think you'll find the secret as to why women must keep covered and men do not. While a good chest is sexy on a man, it does not invoke the same arousal or carry the same sexual implications for women as female breasts do for men.
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Post by Shirina on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:47 pm

,i would pay extra on my license to see roxy mitchell kissing janine whilst stroking her hips as their naked breasts lightly rub against each others and their bottoms pull the fabric of the jimjam bottoms tighly around their backsides so you could see their thongs?.

LOL, NIN, you might be getting yourself carried away there in your own image of Roxy and Janine! Lesbianism is far more accepted (at least here) than male "gayness" for want of a better term. You're more apt to see girl on girl than you will boy on boy. I'm quite surprised that they would even show male "gayness" on prime time. Apparently America hasn't gotten over its phobias yet. Maybe someday.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:40 am

There is something rather unhealthy about humans being disturbed at the sight of the human body.
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Post by witchfinder on Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:51 am

Isent it all about what folks regard as acceptable and not acceptable ?

For instance, a man bearing his chest is not regarded as an intimate sexual image, you can see men with no top on every day in summer, but its a different matter if its a woman, a woman bearing her chest is regarded as been not acceptable, its thought of as been rude, naughty or pornographic.

I dont have a problem with two men kissing, or two females kissing, though I suppose it shouldent be passionate and heavy (if you know what I mean) before 9pm.

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Post by whitbyforklift on Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:08 am

A man was sunbathing naked,in his own garden, totally out of view of anyone.A woman 3 doors up the street,with a mirror on the end of a pole, saw him and reported him for indecent exposure.

A few days later she sunbathed naked in her garden.He saw her with a mirror.She reported him for being a peeping tom'.
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Truth in advertising

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:47 am

"F1 continues with the Malaysia GP this weekend, live only on Sky Sports F1. The race starts at 8am on Sunday. Watch the whole race weekend with a NOW TV week pass - £10.99, no contract."

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/10597703/lewis-hamilton-admits-doubt-over-title-calibre-of-his-mercedes-car

Not quite true, BSkyB - the Malaysia Grand Prix can be viewed live on freeview TV all this weekend on Channel 4 - as it happens. Race starts 8.00 am on Sunday, UK time.
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Re: Inequality on TV

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:43 am

You can please most of the people most of the time, but you can't please everyone ....

Despite the vote for Brexit, the BBC output remains massively opposed to withdrawal from the EU. It is required by law to be impartial, but is not. At the same time, its complaints procedure is not fit for purpose. It is designed mainly to protect the BBC. With the process of Brexit now underway, it is vital that pressure is applied to force it to become properly fair.


http://bbccomplaints.com/
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Re: Inequality on TV

Post by boatlady on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:46 am

Perhaps, while they're doing that, they could fine-tune their reporting on the Labour party in general and Mr Corbyn in particular
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Spitting into wind

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:15 pm

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Channel 4's lost survival series Eden WILL return to TV after all

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:28 pm

Those who maintain a belief in the inherent goodness of the Human Race should look away now.


http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-07-05/channel-4s-lost-survival-series-eden-will-return-to-tv-after-all

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