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Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

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Post by astradt1 on Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:52 pm

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Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies


The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT
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Post by Redflag on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:49 am

astradt1 wrote:Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies


The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT

It was the same thing with Thatchers Tory gov't astradt1, when Labour get into power in 2015 they will have to go in with shovels to scoop up all the Tory crap they left.  :yeahthat: 

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Post by Ivan on Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:20 pm

If we spent £300 of the firm’s money on our own pet project, I wonder how many of us would survive in the job by dismissing it as an “unfortunate incident”?

Tory rising star Esther McVey is formally reprimanded

Esther McVey has apologised for using House of Commons stationery and postage for Tory electioneering.

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:44 pm

How about we give 'em the 11% pay-rise, but stop all the expenses allowance?
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Post by bobby on Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:28 pm

How about we give them performance related pay. If a chancellor cant improve the countries finances pay him accordingly. With this in mind how much do you think the Bastard Osborne owes us to date?.
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Post by boatlady on Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:47 pm

So pleased to hear that NASTY Mc'Vey woman is in trouble - can't happen too often - hope someone's looking for something against her even nastier boss
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Post by Redflag on Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:13 pm

bobby wrote:How about we give them performance related pay. If a chancellor cant improve the countries finances pay him accordingly. With this in mind how much do you think the Bastard Osborne owes us to date?.

In that case Bobby he would even qualify for the same amount as paid to JSA claimants  lol! lol! :yeahthat: 
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Post by Redflag on Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:14 pm

boatlady wrote:So pleased to hear that NASTY Mc'Vey woman is in trouble - can't happen too often - hope someone's looking for something against her even nastier boss


She is a disgrace to the people of Liverpool boatlady I bet they even deny her as a fellow Liverpudlian  :yeahthat: 
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Post by boatlady on Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:13 pm

Isn't there some kind of move to deselect her? Or did I just dream that?
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Re: Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

Post by oftenwrong on Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:24 pm

There is a queue of Tory hopefuls lined up to take any vacant place in the Parliamentary Nasty Party.
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Re: Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

Post by Phil Hornby on Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:26 pm

Any form of unpleasant behaviour on the part of an MP is hardly cause for de-selection in Tory circles.

The more objectionable and sneeringly superior they are , the better, for the typical Conservative backslapper...
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Post by Redflag on Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:27 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:Any form of unpleasant behaviour on the part of an MP is hardly cause for de-selection in Tory circles.

The more objectionable and sneeringly superior they are , the better, for the typical Conservative backslapper...


I agree PH the more nastier and vile the more likely they are to be chosen to stand in a safe Tory seat, but does not say they will get the people to vote for them, so McVey is certain not to get her seat in 2015 because if she thinks the people of Liverpool will vote for her in 2015 she had better think again. :yeahthat:


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Re: Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

Post by Phil Hornby on Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:40 pm

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What are we to make of this obnoxious and nauseating little creep, who now seeks to tell us that we must not watch Blackadder for fear of trivialising the sacrifice of those tens of thousands in WW1 - like he cared anyway. If there is a more flesh-creeping specimen in politics today, please spare us the sight and sound of it...       Evil or Very Mad
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:41 pm

"The only scandal is that I'm not already Prime Minister"

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Post by Redflag on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:54 am

Phil Hornby wrote:What are we to make of this obnoxious and nauseating little creep, who now seeks to tell us that we must not watch Blackadder for fear of trivialising the sacrifice of those tens of thousands in WW1 - like he cared anyway. If there is a more flesh-creeping specimen in politics today, please spare us the sight and sound of it...       Evil or Very Mad
If that is the case PH, because of Gove's Tory party so many people have committed suicide so he should be telling the voting public not to vote Tory !!!  :yeahthat:
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Post by Ivan on Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:42 pm

What Blackadder can teach Michael Gove about the past

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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:06 am

Fascinating to read some of the comments on the Guardian piece. Some contributors seem to think that his being an Oxford graduate makes His Royal Haughtiness, Gove, some kind of superman.

 I have had experience of some Oxbridge graduates in management positions - and it wasn't a pretty sight. Many is the hole from which they had to be extricated. But what would a mere grubby grammar school lad know?

The debate is not really about Blackadder and WW1, of course. It just happened to serve as a useful temporary platform for that little shit to lecture us and have a simultaneous attempt at some early pre-election sniping leftwards. For preference, give me a trench rat anytime...
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I have oftern wondeed how these Oxbridge graduates mNge to get a degree, is it that as soon as they finish there course there brain opens up and lets everything fly away?   The little poor excuse for a human being Gove will keep on trying to smear the left including Clegg after what he has said about the Osbornes speech. :yeahthat:
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Post by Bellatori on Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:41 am


I think I mentioned somewhere before that, until recent times, you could get a fourth class honours degree from Oxford. Very Happy  It is one of the few places, I believe, where it is still acceptable to buy a masters degree. I can remember my brother in law crowing about his masters from Cambridge. I also remember my father commenting that he had many things in his house that cost £10 but none of them were really worth making a fuss about Smile

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I worked with a person that had a degree in Engineering from Oxford, when he first arrived he was the one sent to the shop to  get the lunches in for the rest of the engineers they went with a list but still came back without two lunches and it was not because the shop did not have the lunches as the shop was the Fish & Chip shop. :yeahthat:
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:46 am

The whole point of a University degree is the address-book which you acquire coincidentally.

Priceless, as they say in the MasterCard adverts.
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Post by bobby on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:57 pm

A degree in itself is not too difficult to achieve, the difficulty is getting to the place that awards the degree's. Herr Cameron went to Eton thanks to his parents paying, and that opened the way for all else he now finds on his plate, even when he committed and was caught indulging in the cardinal sin for Etonian's the taking of Drugs, he Herr Cameron got away with it through Family and Friends influence. Had that been you or I or one of our kids, they would have been ignominiously slung out by their ear holes.
The likes of us normal peeps can go on to higher education and obtain a degree irrespective of age, but you first need to have the time and the money.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:26 pm

Is this a good time to mention my 'O'-level in Woodwork...?  Shocked
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Post by boatlady on Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:00 pm

Personally, as the proud owner of a Desmond (tutu) and some miscellaneous post-graduate stuff, I think a University education is a valuable thing - can give you access to social contacts and information that will help in the future, can give you a lovely lot of time to muse and indulge in abstract thought - HOWEVER - if you go to university with limited or no knowledge of the world, that's how you will leave - it's a bubble specially designed to foster the development of theoretical knowledge and abstract thought which are valuable things in their own right.

At one point, I seriously thought no-one under 35 should be allowed to do a degree - not entirely sure I've changed my mind
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:53 pm

The other (quite widely held) point of view holds that anybody over 35 is just taking up valuable space on the planet.

Wrinklies move over!
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Post by Ivan on Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:26 pm

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Surely this must come a close second?  What a Face 

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Post by boatlady on Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:58 am

Sontaran Prime Minister?
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Post by buckspygmy on Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:11 am

boatlady wrote:Sontaran Prime Minister?

Who ate all the pies?
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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:16 am

Pickles is a thuggish type who presents as a mound of disgusting blubber, while Gove is a weedy and prissy little irritant who should be hung up on a coat peg by his jacket collar until he says he's sorry for having been born...
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Post by Redflag on Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:09 am

No wonder Pickles is so OBESE "HE WHO ATE ALL THE PIES" his family home is one hour from the HOC YET he has a second home nearer the HOC LAZY BACKSTUD.   This will have to be sorted out or I can see another scandal looming regarding MPs expenses. :yeahthat:
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Post by Ivan on Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:07 am

Michael Gove wife's beauty site plugged on DWPs' Facebook page

Jobseekers are being lectured on how to look good at interviews – by a website run by Michael Gove’s wife that sells £230 face cream. The Department for Work and Pensions’ Facebook page includes a link to Get the Gloss under a post advising how to “dress for success”. Get the Gloss was co-founded by the Tory education secretary’s beauty journalist wife Sarah Vine. It offers products such as Creme de la Mer serum at £230 and Gypsy Water perfume at £130.

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The website’s beauty expert Judy Johnson also shares her words of wisdom on the Facebook page. They include: “The first impression you make with a potential employer is the most important one. Make sure your eyes look perky so you don’t look all sleepy – people will hire you more if you look awake! (A good night’s sleep usually helps or a good under eye concealer).”

Labour’s Teresa Pearce expressed surprise that the DWP was suggesting people on Jobseeker’s Allowance of £71.70 a week could afford such items and accused ministers of being ‘patronising’ and ‘demeaning’: “It is a cheap marketing ploy designed to exploit female body insecurities and the anxieties of those seeking work to make a quick profit. The reason so many people are unemployed is the lack of available work and not because they need pricey beauty products. Having ‘perky’ eyes won’t change that.”

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