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Post by astradt1 on Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:51 pm

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Today, after what seems like a couple of months in hiding, Clegg has crawled out from his bunker and made a 'bold' announcement on youth unemployment.....

He has 'promised' places on what could be called YTS v2011 but is being called 'Youth Contract', in which £1 Billion will be spent (Given to employers) over the next 3 years to provide upto 6 months work experience to the 16 to 24 year old's.........

Clegg said that the youth contract scheme would create work experience opportunities for 410,000 young people, as well as wage subsidies of £2,275 for employers to hire 160,000 young people. The subsidy, which lasts for six months, are equivalent to half the youth minimum wage.

The Confederation of British Industries (CBI) has been lobbying for the creation of a £1,500 credit for firms that take on 16-24-year old. CBI director-general John Cridland said on Friday that the youth contract "will encourage firms to take a gamble on a young inexperienced person and help tackle the scourge of youth unemployment."
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Lord Sugar has already said he can see some employers take the young on for six months then get rid of them and take on new ones.........as happened in the 1980's Torys Youth Training Scheme.....the only difference between then and now is it was for only 3 month then........and 6 month now........

The other thing about this is that Clegg has not said where the money is going to come from???????
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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by bobby on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:22 pm

Hello Red, I have recently renewed my Labour Party membership , albeit reluctantly, but if Ed Miliband did do a deal with Clegg, I will most certainly be cancelling it. That said it was good to see that Ed Miliband has no intention of doing any such deal, but that is now, who knows what will happen in a years time.
As you have said several times, the likelihood is that their won't be enough of the Lib-Dems left to do a deal with.
An acceptable possibility for some might be, is to enter into a coalition but only if Clegg, Danny Alexander and David Laws are not a part of the deal, I still wouldn't accept it but I'm sure some would. Another point would be not to allow the Lib-Dems into the cabinet, I mean its totally undemocratic when those from a minor party can end up in positions of considerable power without coming anywhere in the preceding election.

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Post by Redflag on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:01 pm

bobby wrote:Hello Red, I have recently renewed my Labour Party membership , albeit reluctantly, but if Ed Miliband did do a deal with Clegg, I will most certainly be cancelling it. That said it was good to see that Ed Miliband has no intention of doing any such deal, but that is now, who knows what will happen in a years time.
As you have said several times, the likelihood is that their won't be enough of the Lib-Dems left to do a deal with.
An acceptable possibility for some might  be, is to enter into a coalition but only if Clegg, Danny Alexander and David Laws are not a part of the deal, I still wouldn't accept it but I'm sure some would. Another point would be not to allow the Lib-Dems into the cabinet, I mean its totally undemocratic when those from a minor party can end up in positions of considerable power without coming anywhere in the preceding election.
 
 
I would be doing the same if Ed Miliband had not sent Nick Clegg away with a flea in his ear bobby, it will depend on the electorate I am hoping they give Ed a LANDSLIDE VICTORY better than Tony Blair got in 1997.   If by chance the electorate force the hand of the Labour party to go into coalition with another party do you really think the Fib-Dems will have enough MPs left after May 2015, I am going down to Hallam Sheffield (Cleggs seat) to help the Labour candidate Oliver Coppard nick Cleggys seat, and to  make sure Cleggy does not get back into HOC.
 
I doubt if the Scots will vote Danny Alexander back into his seat more than likely either Labour or SNP, I would love to see the Labour party do to the Fib-Dems what they did to Gordon Brown in 2010 a taste of their own medicine would be poetic justice, reason I know I read Lord Adonis book "Five Days in May" stirpot
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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by Ivan on Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:06 pm

Nick Clegg's speech at the spring Lib Dem conference in York today was warmly received:-
 
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:15 pm

Clegg and his neophytes clearly believe that the next General Election will merely confirm the status quo ante.

Oh, Dear! Oh very much Dear!

All those lost deposits. There will be much weeping and wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
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Post by boatlady on Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:29 pm

Can they really be so stupid? (or is it that they know something the rest of us don't?)
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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by Redflag on Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:51 am

boatlady wrote:Can they really be so stupid? (or is it that they know something the rest of us don't?)

I think its because they have been living in a world of there own for the last 4 years boatlady, and in May 2015 they will be brought back to REALITY with a huge bump. cheers 
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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by astradt1 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:42 pm

It was interesting to hear Nick Clegg praise Bob Crow for standing up for what he believed and for the people he represented.......At todays DPMQ's
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How different for Nick's own position........


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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:10 pm

Two faced HYPOCRITE, Cleggy is just another one crying crocodile tears the river Thames must be over flowing if Clegg believed what he said surely he would not have backed up all those cuts to Bob Crows and other Union bosses members, I just hope that in Mays local & EU election the Fib-Dems get a good kicking at the ballot box.
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Post by Ivan on Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:22 pm

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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by boatlady on Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:27 pm

The stupid ugly people have taken over
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Re: Clegg has managed to surface again!

Post by oftenwrong on Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:56 pm

Gideon Osborne is not stupid. However I'm not qualified to comment on his attractiveness, or otherwise, to the opposite sex.
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Post by Redflag on Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:08 pm

Surprise Surprise Cleggy will be emerging again this week Wednesday 26th March the big fight between Cleggy & Farage on LBC Radio at 6.00pm Sky News 24 is also airing it.   I wonder you will be the winner in this debate Farage for out of the EU Cleggy for staying in the EU, OK lets us have some of your ideas as too what will happen who will come out of this the winner or will it be a draw. lol! 
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:29 pm

If it was a boxing match it might be billed as :

Nigel 'The Barrage' Farage versus Nick 'Dead Leg' Clegg

Were I the referee they would both be disqualified for low blows...
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Post by Redflag on Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:44 pm

OK I agree PH but who will be the first to lay the first low blow, remembering that Cleggy has been hob-nobbing with the Bare-Faced LYING Tories for 4 years and will have learned a lot of there nasty habits.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:01 pm

" ...who will be the first to lay the first low blow..."

Given the chance I should get a crafty one in on both of them as I give the pre-fight instructions... " No holding, no rabbit punching and no discussing in the clinches the possibilities of a LibDem / UKIP coalition "...
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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:31 pm

Clegg would go into coalition with the devil himself he is that desperate to stay in power, but to stay in power he HAS to win his seat in the HOC, along with other Fib-Dems so he has the means for a coalition.

Just to remind you PH tonight 6.00pm LBC Radio the debate between Clegg & Farage on the EU then there is a second round on BB2 next week so if Farage wipes the floor with Clegg do you think Davy boy will ditch Clegg not wanting to be in coalition with a complete LOSER deadhorse 
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Post by bobby on Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:15 pm

I think Clegg may be safe enough in his present constituency, and he may remain the Leader of the Lib-Dems post election. The question is, if there will be enough Lib-Dems left to be a choice for coalition.
After the next election when the Lib-Dems get the kicking they so justly deserve, that's when we will see many rats deserting their sunken ship and hoping to be welcomed into other parties. I hope Labour very curtly tell them where to stick their heads prior to farting, I prefer a weakened Labour party than having to be saddled with that duplicitous bunch of Strunzi.
It never fails to amaze me how when interviewed how they still slag of the Labour Party whilst openly saying they would go into coalition with them. They are at their lowest in popularity stakes, but still think they are a force to be reckoned with. The debate between Clegg and Farage just shows how out of touch they both are, as they will probably be promising something neither will be in a position to deliver.
What will be interesting is, who will be taking a part in the leaders television debates just prior to May 2015, if the Lib-Dems continue to poll 4th place, then surely whoever is third should have priority to a podium. Time will tell?
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Post by Ivan on Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:07 pm

Clegg or Farage – what a choice!  Rolling Eyes 
 
Clegg and the Lib Dems must never be forgiven for what they did in 2010. They offered the voters a left-wing agenda, they persuaded many Labour voters to lend them their support, then in just four days they reneged on everything they stood for and put this vicious, ideological and corrupt Tory government in power.
 
Farage is a mega con man who pretends to be ‘the ordinary bloke down the pub’, cashes in on years of tabloid negativity about the EU and fears concerning immigration, so that he can trick people into voting away their employment rights and for other measures (such as a flat tax) which right-wing Tories currently only dream about. He’s a lazy git with one of the worst attendance records at the EU Parliament, yet he boasts of having claimed £2 million in expenses over the course of 10 years. And we’re supposed to believe that he’s ‘different’ from the Tory spivs; he’s even tried cosying up to Murdoch!
 
Tony Benn used to argue that politics should always be about policies, not personalities. He was against the EU, so on that basis he might have supported Farage in his debates with Clegg, but he wouldn’t have approved of all his other policies. I support nothing that Farage says or does, and I have no time for Clegg after what he’s enabled the Tories to do to us in the last four years. However, I am in favour of the EU, so I hope Clegg ‘wins’ that aspect of the debates with Farage – but there’s no way I could bear to watch or listen to either of them.
 
I agree with bobby that both participants in these debates can say what they like, knowing that neither is ever likely to be in a position to deliver, though of course Clegg has already been down that road and had his fingers burned. It’s quite correct to say that Clegg is fairly safe in his Sheffield Hallam constituency, though we can always hope:-
 
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When it comes to the leaders’ debates for the general election, we’ve already discussed that on another thread. The issues come down to:-

- When push comes to shove, will Cameron agree to the debates? He hates being cross-examined and uses every trick in the book to avoid PMQs.

- If they go ahead, will Clegg be allowed to take part? He doesn’t stand a snowflake’s chance in hell of being PM after the next election. Many Tories blame his performances in the debates in 2010 (especially the first one) for depriving them of a majority, and they will seek to exclude him next time.

- Should Farage be included? The Tories are scared of him, but as his party has no seats at Westminster (it hasn’t even won a by-election), will they be right to oppose his participation?

- Should it just be Cameron and Miliband, since one or other of them will be PM after the election?
 
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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:16 pm

I agree with you Ivan regarding Farage, what I do not understand is why others can't see you cannot get a fag paper between the Tory Ukip policies, for a start off he wants to completely privatize OUR NHS that is just one and we all know the Tories will completely privatize the NHS if England votes Tory at the 2015 G.E.
 
What is puzzling to me Ivan to think that Hallam Sheffield will vote for Clegg back into his seat, after promising to give Forgemasters A LOAN of 1Million pounds before the election so they could employ 300 more people so they could fullfil their order book, but we all know what happened there he became the Tories Poodle.
 
I would like to see a debate between Ed Miliband and Davy boy I would imagine Ed would wipe the floor with Davy boy plus Ed knows HOW to get right up his nose so he would end up coming out with the truth about his plans for the cuts he would bring in if elected into power in 2015.
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Post by Ivan on Wed May 07, 2014 8:51 pm

Labour Party election broadcast, 7 May 2014:-
 

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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed May 07, 2014 10:23 pm

That's a bit more like it! 
 
 Nobody deserves our contempt more than Clagg...er, Clegg... for his betrayal of those principles he never had in the first place...!
 
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Post by bobby on Wed May 07, 2014 10:41 pm

Its a shame we didn't get to what the pussy did?
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed May 07, 2014 11:01 pm

Claggy's prospects are possibly double those of any other party leader. Nobody else might face the choice of being Deputy Leader of a Tory/Lib-Dem coalition, or of a Lib-Lab ditto.
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Post by Redflag on Thu May 08, 2014 6:59 am

Phil Hornby wrote:That's a bit more like it! 
 
 Nobody deserves our contempt more than Clagg...er, Clegg... for his betrayal of those principles he never had in the first place...!
 
What a snivelling creep.

There is a possibility that by the time of May 2015 Claggy will have been shrunk down to NOTHING PH.
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Post by Ivan on Sun May 11, 2014 7:54 pm

It's not been Nick's week.....
 

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David Axelrod seems to be earning his keep!  thumbsup
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Post by Redflag on Mon May 12, 2014 9:22 am

Nice video Ivan and its all true to boot, I did not think that Axelrod had started yet I know he is coming to the UK this week to meet Ed and the Labour party.  He is going to have to be just as vicious with the Tories as he has been with the Fib-Dems, if it was up to me I would be relentlessly Vicious with the Tories, they deserve the worst bile we can think of for what they have done to the sick, disabled, unemployed, workers and OUR NHS.
 
All I will say to all on CE  is to get out and vote on the 22nd May and if you can cajole friends and family to join you at the polling station, maybe if the Tories and Fib-Dems get a good drubbing at the ballot box we may get an early General Election. stirpot
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Post by bobby on Thu May 29, 2014 4:10 pm

"Lib Dem crisis: Clegg defends Cable, insists 'Vince is no plotter'"

Or could it be that Clegg simply isn't aware of any conniving going on behind his back?
Par for the course I'd say.
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Post by Ivan on Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:31 pm

Nick Clegg wants people to judge him on his record  Evil or Very Mad 

From ‘One Nation’ (the Labour Party magazine), July 2014, page 11:-

The Lib Dems haven’t been a brake on this government, as they claim, but complicit in everything David Cameron has done. Nick Clegg is just as responsible for the cost-of-living crisis as his Tory counterparts.

Nick Clegg wants people to judge him on his record, so let’s remember that the Lib Dems promised to scrap tuition fees and then trebled them. They promised not to increase VAT and warned against a ‘Tory VAT bombshell’, but then voted through a VAT rise on hardworking families. They promised a fair tax system with the wealthiest paying more, but have given millionaires tax breaks.

Nick Clegg backed the Tories’ wasteful and damaging £3 billion top-down reorganisation of the NHS, while cutting nurses and seeing waiting lists rise and operations rationed. Nick Clegg backed the Tories’ hated bedroom tax, even though two-thirds of the people hit by it are disabled and 60,000 are carers. And Nick Clegg backed Michael Gove and allowed schools to recruit unqualified teachers, putting school standards at risk
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Post by boatlady on Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:45 pm

Nick Clegg wants people to judge him on his record

He's going dahn!!!
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Anyone who ended 80+ years in the wilderness for the Liberal Party can't be entirely without prospects.
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Post by boatlady on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:12 pm

Job in sales, do you think?
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:32 pm

Only for second-hand cars, one would imagine...       Shocked
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:38 pm

They all laughed at Christopher Columbus
When he said the world was round
They all laughed when Edison recorded sound
They all laughed at Wilbur and his brother
When they said that man could fly
They told Marconi, wireless was a phony, it's the same old cry


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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:46 pm

Whenever the standard starts to drop, oftenwromg always comes up with a bit of yer actual culture...
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Post by Redflag on Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:24 am

Phil Hornby wrote:Only for second-hand cars, one would imagine...       Shocked

Sorry PH if he was the salesman in a second hand car dealership I would not be able to believe a word he said because there is nothing that he has not LIED about since May 2010.
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Post by Ivan on Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Redflag. We’ve disagreed previously over whether or not Nick Clegg is likely to lose his Sheffield Hallam seat at the next election. The article below suggests you could be right and that Oliver Coppard may have a chance of taking the seat for Labour.

Sheffield students: we can kick Clegg out of power

Posted by Aidan Phillips

"Every student remembers the great tuition-fees betrayal. Before the 2010 election, the Lib Dems targeted universities with their campaign to abolish fees, while Clegg signed the NUS pledge not to vote for a rise in Parliament. He was in power for less than a year before voting in favour of a tuition fee increase.

Angry Sheffield students who live in Clegg's constituency of Sheffield Hallam will now have a chance to get revenge on behalf of themselves and the rest of the student body – by voting out the deputy prime minister.

The worrying thing for Clegg is that this is entirely possible. He won his seat in the 2010 election by 15,284 votes, but recent approval ratings put Clegg's popularity at an all-time low – and local election results in recent years suggest that his majority might not be as safe as it sounds
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Post by Redflag on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:03 pm

IVAN I would not say disagreed we had a difference of opinion, I tend to believe people should get their just desserts and if any one deserves their just desserts it is Cleggy.   I hope that Oliver Coppard and the Uni students give Clegg the kicking he has been asking for since May 2010, Oliver Coppard is one Labour MP I would love to help win his seat so if you can pull any strings in that direction I would be most grateful Ivan. cheers
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Post by Ivan on Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:30 pm

Another nail in the Lib Dem coffin?  Rolling Eyes

This newspaper article dates from July this year:-

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Today Clegg and the rest of his party refused to support a Labour motion in Parliament to abolish the bedroom tax, so it was defeated by 298 votes to 266. No

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Post by astradt1 on Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:53 am

Was Clegg or Cable in the house for the vote?
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Post by Phil Hornby on Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:05 pm

Some of 'em could have been expected to troop into the Government Lobby because they are too lame to think for themselves, but the likes of Beith, Bruce, Campbell, Farron, Foster, Hughes, Laws, and Russell should be very, very ashamed of themselves.

But they won't be...and may they pay the price... Shocked
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