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The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by witchfinder on Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

The BBC is to be made to suffer due to the failures of private funded commercial television, in a series of government policies aimed at smashing the BBC and forcing the quality down, the latest announcements have gone almost unoticed.

A new kind of TV station is coming soon to the UK, "City TV" will be a a very localized kind of TV station which will have coverage areas similar to local radio stations, often covering just one city like Manchester, Liverpool or Glasgow, though some will cover two or three neighbouring towns, like Newcastle + Sunderland or Leeds + Bradford for example.

Part of the start up costs and initial funding of these new commercial TV stations will come from the BBC, which actualy makes me extremely angry because many of us who live in more rural areas will never recieve one of these new stations, yet we will be paying towards them - WHY ?

Why is public money been used to help a private commercial concern to become viable ?

THE PREASSURE WHICH THE BBC SUDENLY FINDS ITSELF IN

The licence fee has been frozen for six years - resulting in a massive real terms cut

The BBC is been forced to take over all the funding of the World Service

The BBC is been made to fund the whole of "Monitoring Services" which was partly funded by the government

The BBC must contribute to the running costs of Channel S4C, the Welsh language channel

The BBC must contribute to the setting up of and initial running costs of the new City TV stations

Everyone keeps saying how much money this will save, not least the chancellor George Osborne, but no one seems to mention how quality and output will deterioate and worsen, the fact that we are going to sacrifice the quality of the BBC in the name of savings has never been mentioned.

Allready it has been announced only this week that many BBC local stations will merge output, effectively losing the local element to local radio, so whats the point of local radio if its NOT local. ?

Naturaly this will give the commercial stations an advantage, that is if you dont mind listening to a choir singing about a local drain cleaning company, or some DJ telling you that now is the time to buy your Christmas gifts - on the 1st November.

Soon the BBC will stop making programmes for daytime viewers, as a result of the financial preassure forced on the BBC by this government, day time viewing will in future consist mostly of repeats.

I suspect that the government is attempting to drive the BBC down to levels associated with SKY, a tv network which makes no tv programmes and where public service means nothing, or possibly they wish to make the BBC like ITV - a network so strapped for cash that they no longer make childrens programmes and can barely afford to carry on providing local news.



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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by oftenwrong on Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:17 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10358533/BBC-accused-of-becoming-Ed-Milibands-mouthpiece.html

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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by Ivan on Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:36 pm

Mehdi Hasan has pointed out in the past how the BBC routinely employs those with a known right-wing bias:-
 
“Can you imagine the hysterical reaction on the right if the BBC's political editor had been unmasked as the former chair of Labour Students? He wasn't - but Nick Robinson was chair of the Young Conservatives, in the mid-1980s, at the height of Thatcherism.

Can you imagine the shrieks from the Telegraph and the Mail if the BBC's editor of live programmes had been deputy chair of the Labour Party Young Socialists? He wasn't - but Robbie Gibb was deputy chair of the Federation of Conservative Students in the 1980s, before it was wound up by Norman Tebbit for being too right-wing.

Can you imagine the howls from the Conservatives if the BBC's chief political correspondent had left the corporation to work for Ken Livingstone? He didn't - but Guto Harri did become communications director for Boris Johnson within months of resigning from the Beeb.

The BBC's bias is an Establishment bias, a bias towards power and privilege, tradition and orthodoxy. The accusation that the BBC is left-wing and liberal is a calculated and cynical move by the right to cow the corporation into submission.”

 
http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2013/10/why-bbc-murdochs-side
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:51 pm

The problem of bias within the media is primarily discussed by the media. Jealousy occasionally intrudes.
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by Ivan on Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:53 am

“The BBC in reality is a wolf in sheep's clothing, assuring us of its objectivity whilst acting as a de facto arm of the establishment. The myth of its left-wing tendencies is a convenient and self-serving smokescreen hiding its true allegiances to establishment power.”
 
So writes Joshua Funnell in the following article, debunking the oft-repeated Tory lie that the BBC has a left-wing bias:-
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/joshua-funnell/glenn-greenwald-bbc_b_4376980.html
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:03 pm

Ying and Yang.
 
One man's "Terrorist" is another man's "Freedom Fighter"
 

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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by Ivan on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:36 am

2013: the year the BBC looked like a bogus signer

Extracts from an article by Will Black:-

"My view is that the BBC is simply not transmitting an accurate account of reality. It has ignored significant news and spun events to present something quite different from what those involved witnessed.

Some have linked BBC news' ongoing timidity to Tory grandee Chris Patten being helicoptered in as chair of the BBC Trust. Such is its apparent reluctance to question domestic political decisions that it does sometimes seem that the broadcaster has become a public-funded PR agency for a failing government.

This view was reinforced in 2013 when Tory Party chairman Grant Shapps / Michael Green / Sebastian Fox suggested that the BBC would lose income if it doesn't free itself from bias. The most bizarre thing about that statement was not that Grant Shapps has at least three identities, but the suggestion that the BBC has a left wing bias. If the BBC is currently left wing my name is Corinne Stockheath.

Throughout 2013 we had very little debate on BBC news programmes about the relentless asset stripping of the NHS and a much greater focus on individual examples of poor practice. If the BBC was a neutral broadcaster working on behalf of the public that funds it - let alone 'pinko' - we might have expected it to broadcast the mass protest about hospital cuts and the sell-off of the NHS, brokered by a political party that hasn't won an election for 22 years. BBC journalists were at the Tory Party conference, outside which the demonstration took place, but throughout the day neglected the 50,000 marchers."


For the whole article:-
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/will-black/2013-the-year-the-bbc-loo_b_4520119.html
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:27 pm

The BBC started life on 18th. October 1922.
By October 19th. it had discovered that you can't please everyone.
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by Ivan on Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:44 pm

How the BBC leans to the right
 
Extracts from an essay by Professor Justin Lewis of Cardiff University:-
 
“Accusations of BBC bias are now part of a political game….leading the charge are conservative media owners and their press outlets. Their motivations are partly economic (a dismantled BBC would allow them to increase their market share) and partly ideological (they are highly sceptical about regulated public services). Allied in this effort are those Tory politicians who share the ideological suspicion of public service broadcasting. Their interests are also strategic, since political pressure – they hope – obliges the BBC to bend over backwards to avoid accusations of a leftist tilt.

There is justifiable anxiety about the way a Tory government might behave whenever the licence fee is due for renewal. It is the BBC’s cyclical dependence upon whoever happens to be in government during the licence renewal period that is the greatest threat to its impartiality. For those who value the BBC’s independence, this is arguably a far more serious political infringement on journalistic freedom in the UK than anything proposed by Lord Leveson.

It’s often said that if the BBC is being criticised from both political flanks, it is probably getting it about right. This is a lazy supposition and if this is a plea for anything, it is that impartiality is sufficiently important to be subject to systematic, independent scrutiny. We also need to consider the possibility that attacks from the right are having the desired effect……the most plausible hypothesis is that the BBC has, under pressure, been pushed to the right.”

 
For even more of the essay:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/opinion/extract-how-the-bbc-leans-to-the-right-9129608.html
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:19 pm

QUOTE: "It’s often said that if the BBC is being criticised from both political flanks, it is probably getting it about right. This is a lazy supposition ...."

Perhaps often said because it's often true.  Sacked former BBC employee, Rod Liddle, writes in the Sunday Times about an alleged connection of various Labour Party officials with something called the Paedophile Information Exchange, but curiously unreported by the BBC.

Who is paying Rod to write things like that?

In any discussion about quality or content, the only meaningful comparison must be Commercial Broadcasting.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:22 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/opinion/extract-how-the-bbc-leans-to-the-right-9129608.html
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Post by Ivan on Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:35 pm

oftenwrong. I think I quoted that source two messages back...  scratch 
 
Rod Liddle has latched on to - a couple of weeks late - a smear in 'The Daily Mail' about Harriet Harman which runs something like this:-
- Harriet Harman worked for the National Council for Civil Liberties in the 1970s.
- The NCCL supported gay rights.
- The Paedophile Information Exchange affiliated itself to the gay rights movement.
- Therefore - with a giant and very flawed leap of logic - Harriet Harman is deemed to have supported paedophiles.
 
When Owen Jones said that next year's general election will be the dirtiest ever, you can now see why. There's nothing more desperate that a cornered or injured animal, which in this case is the Tory Party. High time that it was put down.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:29 pm

I wrote to the BBC a couple of weeks ago , complaining that Andrew Marr had constantly interrupted Rachel Reeves on his Sunday morning show, while allowing a Tory guest to drone on unimpeded.

The Beeb responded by telling me what I already knew, ie that different politicians need to be encouraged in different ways to answer questions posed.

But Marr didn't interrupt Caroline Flint very much at all today. I am sure it was her legs that did the trick and certainly not my complaint...!   Very Happy
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:09 pm

And she gave a confident performance and is clearly in command of her brief.

Refreshing. More, more, more...!
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:47 pm

Ivan wrote:oftenwrong. I think I quoted that source two messages back...  scratch 
 

Ah, yes. Quite so, but I think you will find that my quote was from the vulgate edition.  Embarassed 
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by Ivan on Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:59 pm



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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:28 pm

I don't watch Party Political Broadcasts on behalf of the Tory Party.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:00 am

Surely there is some fun to be had by giving it thirty seconds, shouting " You lying bastards" and switching it off mid-sentence...?          Smile
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Post by boatlady on Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:39 am

I often do that when listening to Radio 4 in my car
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:49 am

But not during Desert Island Discs, I trust...?         Very Happy
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:40 pm

Can you imagine washing up on a desert island and finding the beach invisible under a pile of Bibles and Shakespeare's complete works?
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:46 pm

One would just have to hope that when Man Friday eventually came into view he would already be hard at work building bookshelves...
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:02 pm

Man Friday? Bloody immigrants coming in and taking our jobs before you know what's going on!
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Post by boatlady on Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:45 pm

lol! sunny 
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:47 pm

BBC3 is to be transmitted solely via I-player. To save money. Broadcasting represents only 10% of the direct cost of running the BBC, so if it stops broadcasting altogether, licence-fees would only have to cover the other 90% which is incurred by.... administration.

What have I missed?
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Post by Dan Fante on Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:31 am

Is there anyone who isn't a comedian with a show commissioned by BBC3 who is upset at this news?
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Post by Ivan on Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:34 pm

Yes, I’m very concerned, even though I’ve never watched BBC3. This is the thin end of the wedge, and another example of the insidious undermining of public services by the Tories. As witchfinder listed in the opening post of this thread, the BBC has been asked to do a lot more with the same amount of money since the spivs were given the keys to Downing Street by Clegg in 2010. The Tory way is always to starve a service of funds, then soften it up for privatisation by rubbishing it when it can’t deliver all that it did previously. (In the case of the NHS, 7,000 nurses have been sacked, so when hospitals are short-staffed they have to call in expensive bank nurses and then get into debt in the process.)
 
It's not even certain that making BBC3 internet-only will save money; it might even cost more if the figures in this article are correct:-
http://www.mediauk.com/tv/discussions/tv-chatter/bbc-three-goes-online-only-but-how-does-this-save-money
 
Rupert Murdoch has long wanted the BBC fragmented, as it’s the main competition in the UK to his media empire, so I don’t doubt that was part of the deal with Cameron by which BSkyB was to be handed to him on a plate, and jobs provided for his stooges – Coulson, Gove and Hunt. That was the price extracted from Cameron for Murdoch’s relentless campaign against Gordon Brown in the run up to the last general election.
 
I don’t agree with everything the BBC does with our licence money, especially when it comes to paying attractive women vast sums to read the news. But with a Tory who still takes the party whip in the House of Lords in the chair, and oiks like Grant Shapps publicly threatening the BBC, we can’t expect decisions to be taken in the best interests of the service when its masters are ideologically opposed to its very existence.
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:00 pm

Is there anyone who isn't a comedian with a show commissioned by BBC3 who is upset at this news?

Benedict Cumberbatch might miss the residuals of Doctor Who.
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Post by Dan Fante on Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:52 pm

I'd be more inclined to believe this was part of a conspiracy if BBC3 wasn't utterly shit on the whole. It doesn't even appeal to its target audience, 'da yoof'.
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Post by Ivan on Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:00 pm

Dan Fante wrote:-
It doesn't even appeal to its target audience, 'da yoof'.
Some may beg to differ. The scrapping of BBC3 has caused a strong reaction on Twitter, and the BBC source mentioned below received 1,238 responses in a very short space of time before being closed to further comments. One ‘Guardian’ reader has commented: “BBC3 meant young people have something catering for them. This decision means that they don't, which in turn harms the argument that it is a universal service, and so chips away at the justification for a licence fee.” Comedian Russell Kane says that BBC3 "provides a vital part of the entertainment portfolio of the BBC. It's not necessarily a youth channel, but it is younger-skewed. I don't see why it should be cut because people who are younger have quieter voices in the political process."
 
Yes, younger people are less likely to vote, so we know the Tories are less bothered about them, but is that what this is all about? I don’t know a great deal about the BBC’s director general, Tony Hall, other than he used to be the big cheese at the Royal Opera House, but I accept that this is all about making choices on a budget which is shrinking in real terms because of government policy. Since 2011, several foreign language sections of the BBC World Service have closed, with the loss of more than 650 jobs, but even so, it was only last October that Hall said: "I wouldn't consider closing a channel".
 
‘Guardian’ blogger Roy Greenslade argues that scrapping BBC3 is the “least worst way of saving money”, but I’m not sure I agree. I’d look for other ways of saving money at the BBC. Why does a reporter, plus a camera team, have to go and stand outside Downing Street at 10pm, or Buckingham Palace, or a police station where a suspect has been taken, when there is absolutely nothing to see? Why can’t they stay in the studio and report their news? Why does the BBC have to send so many people to the World Economic Forum in Davos, or to an EU summit, and to sports events around the world? As I said previously, is reading the news such a skilled job that the person doing it has to be paid tens of thousands of pounds a year?
 
The conspiracy –  or rather modus operandi of the Tories – is to destroy public services by stealth, asking them to do too much from the available funds, rubbishing them when they fail, and then pretending that privatisation is the way to ‘rescue’ the said service. And the more mediocre the service provided by the BBC becomes – whether through cutting channels, or by endlessly dragging up Farage and failed Tory chancellors Lawson and Lamont to comment on everything under the sun – the more people will resent paying the licence fee and become softened up for a commercial alternative.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26447089
 
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/mar/05/bbc3-tony-hall
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Post by Dan Fante on Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:05 pm

Russell Kane and his pals have a vested interest, as I've already stated. It always has to be a Tory conspiracy though, doesn't it?  Rolling Eyes 
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:16 pm

It is becoming increasingly necessary to effect a change of Government as soon as possible. The present administration is dismantling Britain like a business takeover.
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Post by Ivan on Sat May 24, 2014 10:59 am

The BBC gives up all pretence of reporting news and rebrands its round the clock Farage-Fest as 'UKIP 24'
 

 
Click on this link and enjoy:-
http://gregmoodie.com/bbc-ukip/
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Post by boatlady on Sat May 24, 2014 11:20 am

lol! lol! lol! 
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Re: The gradual destruction and right-wing bias of the BBC

Post by oftenwrong on Sat May 24, 2014 11:28 pm

Though judging by the amount of voters who chose UKIP, perhaps the BBC coverage was remarkably prescient.
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Post by boatlady on Sun May 25, 2014 9:17 am

Chicken? Egg?
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun May 25, 2014 1:11 pm

Un-knowable. But ostrich attitude of established political Parties also a factor.
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Post by boatlady on Sun May 25, 2014 8:47 pm

Gets more like Twitter every day.

I think here in GY we sort of hoped that boots on the ground in the shape of candidates and their representatives might help to counteract some of the media messages. My lovely colleagues in the Labour team spoke to as many as possible of the locals, canvassed their views on local and national issues and on election day were still carrying out case work to help address some of their local concerns.
I'm not sure Labour were complacent - maybe the strategy was less than ideal, especially as voting slips no longer seem to show the name of the candidate - so maybe all the effort spent on forming relationships, getting alongside people to help them with their concerns, explaining policy etc largely went to waste, in face of the UKIP policy of poster campaign, mailshot with shiny leaflets, followed by a strong (and I felt borderline threatening) UKIP  presence at the polling stations.
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Post by boatlady on Sun May 25, 2014 8:49 pm

I sometimes wonder if we're going to need our very own kristallenacht(?) right here in GB to bring the voting population to their senses.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sun May 25, 2014 9:02 pm

It is to be regretted that there was no UKIP presence at the Polling Station where we voted.

What an opportunity it would have been to ask them to 'kindly step out of the way'*...

(* or words to that effect)    Very Happy
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Post by boatlady on Sun May 25, 2014 9:40 pm

lol! 
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Post by Ivan on Sat May 31, 2014 12:25 am

BBC receives almost 1,200 complaints over UKIP election coverage
 
Corporation accused of bias towards Nigel Farage's party and giving it too much airtime.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/30/bbc-complaints-ukip-election-coverage-bias
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