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Post by Charlatan on Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:27 pm

There must be a way to guarantee more money for the government of today. Maybe one of the easiest ways to guarantee more revenue would be to privatise everything, that way there is a lot of capital to pay off the debts and also more taxation - it is pointless taxing yourself, so sell it to someone else and help that amount coming in from taxes...

Who owns harbours? If the state owns harbours, they can sell them and make a lot of money. Then taxes could see imported goods taxed, and also a tax for the actual operations of the harbour. This means maybe even more money coming in from not owning the harbour itself.
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:53 pm

I don't seem to be deriving much income from the things I don't own.
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Post by astra on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:11 pm

Who owns harbours? If the state owns harbours, they can sell them and



Nuffin left in this country for the Gubmint and councils to sell! The Aircraft Industry in UK is part owned by the French - Scareybus, Westland Helicopters? Part owned by Augusta - Italian. Water - here in the north, a Chinses fellah owns the water and is making good money selling it to the Arabs! The HARBOURS, Madam? Owned by foreign intrests with offices offahore, so NONE of the profits come to the treasury via the employees paypackets, and little of the taxes either. This country is well stitched up tight!
Right, that was the 80s,
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:17 pm

Unfortunately, it wouldn't help if money grew on British trees, since some foaming-mouthed Tory probably sold 'em off several years ago...
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Post by Charlatan on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:18 pm

Okay, then sell the waters rights to coorporations! They will no longer own the waters, but they will be able to use them for military purposes?
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:28 pm

I've got it! Just sell Wales to some unsuspecting purchaser as 'an opportunity to establish missionary services '... Mad
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Post by astra on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:32 pm

Okay, then sell the waters rights to coorporations!


Cannot be done!

The contracts are all signed sealed and delivered, are watertight and untouchable.
The only way would be for the Councils, and/or Gubmint to buy back wottheysoldoffindafurstplace!

This would (like buying back the railways) cost 10 times and more than the original tory gubmint got fer them! The countrie's broke! We are all innit together!

The Palace of Westminster does NOT run this country, disprate Havana smoking cabals in annonymous rooms in offshore banks do though!
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:52 pm

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Post by Charlatan on Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:06 pm

Then sell state buidings and rent them? The money they make off of tax for the rent could be set quite high, so they will make money from spending money, basically.

This will raise the overall money in the country, as more money is freed up. This would mean money now, not later.
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:28 pm

Be sure to tell us when you begin to wear long trousers.
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Post by Charlatan on Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:28 pm

There must be some way to make job creation come to be!

How about they in the senate fine walmart and microsoft for killing off the markets? There are plenty more things that have killed off the market! They should calculate the amount of money they have 'skimmed' off for the owners and say they can only use that money on investments in the market, not leaving it to roll over in the banks.
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Post by Charlatan on Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:46 pm

The debt crisis in Europe is evident of people not wanting european shares anymore. This means they take their money out of the market, and the banks 'invest the money for them.' The money has to go somewhere, and it is not going back into the euro zone, so it must be going to the third world, or, pessimism is seeing it all go to china.

When you are making no returns on investing in china, or very small ones, then you will agree that clogging up one market place with all the money will see it not grow as fast. Picture a pyramid - with all the trading going on at the top, where shares are few and rewards slender, but the risks are low, then you will see why this recession is coming again!

The only way out of this recession is for the investment to take risks over in europe and america, or, preferrably, the third world.

Another low risk would be any blue chip stock. These rewards are so slender that they are hardly worth mentioning, so, maybe there is a way around this? If china was to in response to all the investment, reinvest elsewhere, then the 'ship could be stopped from sinking.' If the whole world goes for the surety of china, there will be little growth outside of it!

The way the west could save itself, would be to sanction china if it does not encourage investment elsewhere. If they were to put a special tax on all transactions in china from the west, they would encourage better investing, but then they would clear the red tape and make even smaller gains doing this. This is a pessimistic market!

To get all that money out of china they need to prove to china that it will collapse aswell, as foreign prices are driven up and foreign businesses fail. If china wants to protect itself, it will chase them away! This problem will never go away until the money is directed more broadly, maybe 'completely broadly' compared to this.

Higher taxes are the best way to get this right. It will see china settle nicely into the fold as it starts to gather it's investments from other countries, otherwise it is lost.
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