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Thatcher changed Britain for the worse
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Through the Thatcher Major, years, millions of British people were made poor as a matter of policy, while others got rich as a matter of policy.
Blair and Brown embraced Thatcherism due to the change in the British, and now Milliband wants to change Labour again due to a changed Britain.
I personally long for a political party that sticks to it's core values, that has conviction, that does not change itself to suit a greedy selfish uncaring British populas who'se only thought is "self". In my view this "self" is mainly among the British middle classes.
Thatcher changed Britain for the worse, and now we are reaping through this dreadful coalition, what has been sown.
Through the Thatcher Major, years, millions of British people were made poor as a matter of policy, while others got rich as a matter of policy.
Blair and Brown embraced Thatcherism due to the change in the British, and now Milliband wants to change Labour again due to a changed Britain.
I personally long for a political party that sticks to it's core values, that has conviction, that does not change itself to suit a greedy selfish uncaring British populas who'se only thought is "self". In my view this "self" is mainly among the British middle classes.
Thatcher changed Britain for the worse, and now we are reaping through this dreadful coalition, what has been sown.
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But how is "the truth" recognised when you find it?
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It smells of b/s OW.
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oftenwrong wrote:But how is "the truth" recognised when you find it?
You are beginning to learn .
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Hope you are all joining in the efforts to have St Margaret the Blessed as the new face on the £ 20 note .
Let's all pull together in this worthy scheme .
After all , she saved the working class and this is one small way for them( or , it ) to say "Thanks "
Let's all pull together in this worthy scheme .
After all , she saved the working class and this is one small way for them( or , it ) to say "Thanks "
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Surely much better to have the face of the Witch printed on some delicate lavatory paper?
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Much better idea Mel,
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From 'Global Slump, The Economics & Politics of Crisis & Resistance' by David McNally:-
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6BLLzSIUAA3UGN.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6BLLzSIUAA3UGN.jpg
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It's obvious when you think about it - what fools we all were
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"what fools we all were"
Some of us were not taken in boatlady. Those that were are indirectly responsible for what we now suffer, including the credit crunch, I might add.
Bronze statue indeed.!!!!!!!!
Some of us were not taken in boatlady. Those that were are indirectly responsible for what we now suffer, including the credit crunch, I might add.
Bronze statue indeed.!!!!!!!!
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Ivan wrote:From 'Global Slump, The Economics & Politics of Crisis & Resistance' by David McNally:-
I have several times wondered whether Cutting Edge should aspire to becoming an archive of left-wing opinion, and in particular whether it would be appropriate to have a subject heading relating specifically to the Trade Union Movement.
Maggie instantly recognised the Trade Unions as a dragon she would have to slay in order to promote Tory dogma concerning the right to make money and the right to exploit the labour force in the pursuit of that aim.
But she wasn't the first, and won't be the last.
New Readers start here: http://unionhistory.info/timeline/timeline.php
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The Witch, we now know knew exactly what Leon Brittan had been up to and obviously refused to deal with it for her own political purpose. Cow!!!!!
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This guy hits the nail on the head.
Guardian
MR Heylings
Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
• It’s about time someone asked: “What did the Tories do during their 18 years from 1979 to 1997?” In the case of tax avoidance and evasion, the answer is not “nothing” but the very antithesis. The Tories set up mechanisms that gave an enormous boost to tax dodging. One of Thatcher’s first acts as PM was to abolish exchange controls, followed by the Big Bang in the 80s that deregulated so much of domestic and international finance, setting up the conduits for such antisocial if not criminal behaviour. Banks, accountants, investment advising firms and assorted others fastened on to these conduits at great profit to themselves and their customers but detriment to millions of other citizens. The inclusion of these dubious people in the wealth-creating class is a bad joke perpetrated by much of the media but notably the Tory toadying tabloids, the Times and the Telegraph.
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MR Heylings
Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
• It’s about time someone asked: “What did the Tories do during their 18 years from 1979 to 1997?” In the case of tax avoidance and evasion, the answer is not “nothing” but the very antithesis. The Tories set up mechanisms that gave an enormous boost to tax dodging. One of Thatcher’s first acts as PM was to abolish exchange controls, followed by the Big Bang in the 80s that deregulated so much of domestic and international finance, setting up the conduits for such antisocial if not criminal behaviour. Banks, accountants, investment advising firms and assorted others fastened on to these conduits at great profit to themselves and their customers but detriment to millions of other citizens. The inclusion of these dubious people in the wealth-creating class is a bad joke perpetrated by much of the media but notably the Tory toadying tabloids, the Times and the Telegraph.
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Ivanhoe wrote:Through the Thatcher Major, years, millions of British people were made poor as a matter of policy, while others got rich as a matter of policy.
Blair and Brown embraced Thatcherism due to the change in the British, and now Milliband wants to change Labour again due to a changed Britain.
I personally long for a political party that sticks to it's core values, that has conviction, that does not change itself to suit a greedy selfish uncaring British populas who'se only thought is "self". In my view this "self" is mainly among the British middle classes.
Thatcher changed Britain for the worse, and now we are reaping through this dreadful coalition, what has been sown.
That's a great post Ivan, I totally agree ..the Tahtcher route will only put Britain back, she loathed the poor as well as us Scots.
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The race to privatise so many British Companies, allied to removing restrictions on the Stock Exchange, results in the present situation where many of them are owned and controlled by foreign entities.
Arriva - owned by Deutsche Bahn
Branston Pickle
(and Sarsons vinegar) - Mizkan of Japan
Cadbury's - Kraft USA
EE mobile telecoms - Deutsche Telefon
House of Fraser - Chinese owned
HP Sauce - Heinz USA
Hartley's Jam - Hain Celestial USA
Heathrow - Ferrovial of Spain
Jaguar Land Rover Tata of India
QPR/ManU/Chelsea football clubs
Newcastle Brown
02 telecoms - Telefónica
Tetley Tea - Tata of India
Thames Water - Macquarie of Australia
Walker's Crisps - PepsiCo
Weetabix - Bright Food (China)
Fascinating.
Arriva - owned by Deutsche Bahn
Branston Pickle
(and Sarsons vinegar) - Mizkan of Japan
Cadbury's - Kraft USA
EE mobile telecoms - Deutsche Telefon
House of Fraser - Chinese owned
HP Sauce - Heinz USA
Hartley's Jam - Hain Celestial USA
Heathrow - Ferrovial of Spain
Jaguar Land Rover Tata of India
QPR/ManU/Chelsea football clubs
Newcastle Brown
02 telecoms - Telefónica
Tetley Tea - Tata of India
Thames Water - Macquarie of Australia
Walker's Crisps - PepsiCo
Weetabix - Bright Food (China)
Fascinating.
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Me for the farmer's market
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An average British worker now earns less than in 2003:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/uk-jobs-pay-less-than-they-did-a-decade-ago-in-one-chart/ar-BBna2UE?li=AA54rU
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/uk-jobs-pay-less-than-they-did-a-decade-ago-in-one-chart/ar-BBna2UE?li=AA54rU
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... and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on ....
1. A Thatcher government closes costly "asylums" and releases inmates to "Care in the Community".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_in_the_Community
2. Mental-health provision by the NHS is inadequate:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35575457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_in_the_Community
2. Mental-health provision by the NHS is inadequate:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35575457
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Is Donald Trump a child of Thatcher?
His surprising progress so far in the Presidential electoral process seems to answer the call of unrepresented "middle America", in which, since the 1970s, only success breeds success. As the rich get richer, ordinary folk see their own prospects of advancement recede into infinity - the precise opposite of the American Dream.
Britain usually follows US trends, so how would a Trump victory shape British politics?
His surprising progress so far in the Presidential electoral process seems to answer the call of unrepresented "middle America", in which, since the 1970s, only success breeds success. As the rich get richer, ordinary folk see their own prospects of advancement recede into infinity - the precise opposite of the American Dream.
Britain usually follows US trends, so how would a Trump victory shape British politics?
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Even more surprising - or shocking - now that he's about to become the most powerful politician in the world. I'm surprised that he hasn't written a book called 'Mein Trumpf'.His surprising progress so far in the Presidential electoral process
Getting back to Thatcher......
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Re: Thatcher changed Britain for the worse
Some people, upon finding themselves with a comfortable balance in the bank, become frightened of "The Poor" who may try and take it away from them.
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