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Ron Paul - Nostradamus, or the most dangerous man in the world?

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Ron Paul - Nostradamus, or the most dangerous man in the world?

Post by roifield on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:01 am

The Texas congressman has an understanding of geo-politics that is almost unrivalled. Newt Gingrich may call himself a historian and claim to be the smartest candidate on the block but a look at Congressman Paul’s speech to congress in April 2002 makes for eerie reading. He understood the ramifications of the Bush-Cheney driven Neo-Con foreign policy like no other.

Here is the brief list of the calls he got right in that address ten years ago. Transcripts taken from his speech to Congress April 22nd 2002

1. Some of our moderate Arab allies will be overthrown by Islamic fundamentalists. (Arab Spring still to be worked through)
2. The U.N. will continue to condemn, through resolutions, Israeli-U.S. policies in the Middle East.
3. The United States will attack Iraq without proper authority, and a major war, the largest since World War II, will result.
4. The Karzai government will fail, and U.S. military presence will end in Afghanistan. (Very much on the cards)
5. An international dollar crisis will dramatically boost interest rates in the United States.
6. Price inflation, with a major economic downturn, will decimate U.S. Federal Government finances. With exploding deficits and uncontrolled spending Federal Reserve policy will continue at an expanding rate, with massive credit expansion, which will make the dollar crisis worse.
7. Gold will be seen as an alternative to paper money.
8. There will be an erosion of civil liberties as the US government responds to political fear in dealing with the terrorist threat by making generous use of the powers obtained with the Patriot Act.
9. The United States will not officially lose the war, but neither will they win.
10. The Congress and the President will shift radically toward expanding the size and scope of the Federal Government. This will satisfy both the liberals and the conservatives. Both sides will endorse military adventurism overseas.
11. During the next decade, the American people will become poorer, while they become more dependent on the government for economic security.
12. The war will prove to be divisive, with emotions and hatred growing between the various factions and special interests that drive policies in the Middle East. Agitation from more class warfare will succeed in dividing the US domestically.

Libertarianism is embedded in the bone marrow of America. Its principles helped shape the Declaration of Independence and have always shaped the growth and understanding of what America is. Libertarianism’s message of “total” freedom was however first met head on by Theodore Roosevelt, when he successfully turned the tide against unfettered capitalism and the robber baron corporatives at the turn of the 20th century. America without social responsibility and political safeguards was a crony capitalist state, that grew rich at breakneck speed but had an income inequality of horrendous proportions because of the lack of legislation for labour against capital. It was a time of widespread poverty, fantastic wealth for the few, mass immigration and massive social tensions.

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Re: Ron Paul - Nostradamus, or the most dangerous man in the world?

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:53 am

or, to summarise, he tells people what they want to hear.

History provides us with a list of such people, from Judas onwards.
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Re: Ron Paul - Nostradamus, or the most dangerous man in the world?

Post by ROB on Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:37 pm


Ron Paul - Nostradamus, or the most dangerous man in the world?

Neither. I’ve several reactions to this question:


  • Nostradamus was often wrong.

  • Ron Paul, upon learning that an al qaida upper-echelon beast had been removed from existence by a Predator-borne Hellfire missile somewhere in Yemen, labeled the President of the United States a “war criminal.”

  • Ron Paul advocates policies designed to open up America and the West to terrorist attacks, possibly by weapons of greater mass destruction than were employed in New York and Washington D.C. on 11 September 2001.



Most dangerous? No. Dangerous? If people continue to back his play, particularly if they back him all the way into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, definitely.

roifield wrote:
The Texas congressman has an understanding of geo-politics that is almost unrivalled.

I don’t know about that. Neville Chamberlain’s “understanding of geo-politics” might favorably compare to that of Ron Paul. “Peace in our time” I believe was his quoted proclamation as he waved that precious peace of paper in the air, with Herr Hitler’s signature affixed thereto, in front of a throng of supporters, somewhere in London, I believe, upon his return from Berlin.
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