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Post by Ivan Thu May 17, 2012 11:38 am

When Labour came to power in 1997, their manifesto contained 229 promises. A BBC analysis five years later found that 181 of the promises, 80%, had been kept. As to the remaining 48 promises, the BBC decided that they were “either too difficult to judge or have not been met.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1961522.stm

Those people who make negative remarks such as “all politicians and parties are the same” would do well to compare Labour’s record on keeping promises with that of the Tories in the past two years. Dr Eoin Clarke has analysed the 2010 Tory manifesto and exposed some of its biggest lies:-

- The Tories said they would offer personalised tailored help to the long term unemployed (p.15), but they hid their plans to force disabled young people and others to work, unpaid, for profit-making companies like Tesco.

- The Tories said they would create 400,000 work-pairing college-based apprenticeship schemes over two years (p.17), but there are fewer than 10,000 apprenticeship places UK-wide.

- The Tories promised to reduce youth unemployment (p.5), but it has risen to an all-time high.

- The Tories said they'd cut child benefit for families earning more than £50,000, but they actually cut it for families where one person earns £44,000.

- The Tories said they'd raise the state pension age to 66, but then raised it to 67.

- The Tories promised to protect Child Trust Funds for the 33% poorest children, but instead axed them for all children.

- The Tories said they would give power to the Bank of England to crack down on bonuses (p.29), but nothing was done and bank bonuses have topped £6 billion in the past year.

- The Tories said they would protect the Winter Fuel Payment to pensioners (p.42), then cut it by £50 for some and £100 for others.

- The Tories said they would provide 4,200 extra Sure Start personnel (p.43). Instead they have cut £812 million in funding, which has resulted in the closing of more than 300 Sure Start Centres.

- The Tories claimed they would reduce unemployment and improve economic growth (p.3), but the opposite has occurred.

- The Tories concealed their plans to cut the Education Maintenance Allowance and raise VAT to 20%. They were also deliberately vague on their support for trebling tuition fees.

- The Tories promised to protect funding for Disability Living Allowance (p.42), which Cameron claimed for his own son, but then cut it for children receiving chemotherapy after they came to power. Now they’ve scrapped it altogether.

http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2011/12/exposing-10-biggest-lies-in-tory.html

For more on the on the human cost of Tory disability cuts:-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/16/human-cost-disability-cuts?newsfeed=true

Other broken promises have been listed by 'Twitter' member @GracieSamuels:-

No cuts to public spending in 2010-11 (just 'efficiency savings').

No bonuses over £2,000 for bankers.

3,000 more police officers.

Keeping the Future Jobs Fund.

Pupil Premium to be additional to the schools budget.

‘Bonfire of the quangos’ (4,500 more bureaucrats have been recruited).

A Post Office Bank.

No cuts to the navy.

Three more army battalions.

Reduce immigration (it’s risen by 21% in one year).

Automatic prison sentence for carrying a knife.

Cutting rail fares each year.

NHS budget to be protected.

No cuts to frontline services.

3,000 more midwives.

No A&E and maternity unit closures.

And of course, the worst and most disgusting broken Tory promise, hidden from the voters but planned for years and rewarded by private healthcare firms:-

No top-down reorganisation of the NHS.

Is this the worst UK government ever? Have you ever read about or lived through two years of more malevolence towards the weakest in society, and more lies from a Prime Minister so mired in sleaze and corruption?

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Post by oftenwrong Thu May 17, 2012 12:45 pm

If you previously thought that the Thatcher administration was the most harmful ever, Mr Cameron is here to correct that belief.
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Post by blueturando Thu May 17, 2012 12:47 pm

No!!!! Callaghans was the worst

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Post by Mel Thu May 17, 2012 1:36 pm

"No!!!! Callaghans was the worst"

With respect blue how would you know? You were either a baby or not born at the time. Smile
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Post by Redflag Thu May 17, 2012 2:30 pm

blueturando wrote:No!!!! Callaghans was the worst

Thatcher was bad blue I managed to live through her reign of Terror, but what Scam..er..on and his Tory MPs ASS Lickers is nothing short of Disgraceful for what he is doing to the UK the LIES and DECEIT and has no shame, but he will pay a heavy price at the ballot box at the next GE when ever that is, if he survives without there been a General Strike or something along those lines.
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Post by Phil Hornby Thu May 17, 2012 2:55 pm

Any semblance of 'decent' Toryism died when Edward Heath was deposed - and he was far from perfect. Since then they have been content with pursuing horribly right-wing Selsdonian agendas -even if it has meant being in Opposition rather than casting off the malicious spite in which they so enjoy wallowing...
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Post by blueturando Thu May 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Sorry Mel....I lived through Callaghan and remember his time well....too well!!!

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Post by Ivan Thu May 17, 2012 5:19 pm

blueturando. Age 45. Born 1967? Twelve when Callaghan's three years in office ended.

I've explained in some detail (with the help of two 'tweeters') why I think this government is the worst ever. You've made two jibes about Callaghan and told us nothing.

When Labour returned to power in March 1974, after the Tories had stuffed up the economy with the Barber 'boom', inflation was over 13%. It continued to rise - through no fault of anyone in this country - because the Arabs had quadrupled the price of oil almost overnight. Callaghan spent his three years (1976-79) trying to bring down inflation and in doing so taking on his natural supporters - the trade unions - who were understandably trying to protect the living standards of their members. Despite the lie which atv continued to repeat on these threads, inflation in 1979 was 10%, lower than Labour inherited. After a year of Thatcher and the almost doubling of VAT, inflation went over 21%. As always the Tories stuffed the economy, just like they're doing now.

Under Callaghan, VAT was reduced to 8%. Under Callaghan, prescriptions cost 20p an item (after a year of Thatcher, they cost £1). If you saved a deposit, you could get a mortgage for three times your salary and buy a house. If you couldn't, council housing was available. Rents in private accommodation were controlled.

Economists have argued about whether the UK was at its most equal in 1968 or 1976, but in both years the country was in a much better state than it is now. Research has shown that the more equal a society, the less crime there is. But in 1978 along came Thatcher telling us that "Britain needs more inequality; some of us need to grow taller than others". The rest, as they say, is history, and the damage that that dreadful woman did to this country has been with us ever since. Now Cameron and his gang of arrogant, corrupt, upper class thugs are making things even worse.

Your turn. Tell us what you think was so bad about Jim Callaghan. Did he employ Murdoch's criminals? Did he surround himself with sleazy ministers and fund raisers promising access for cash? I'm all ears.
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Post by blueturando Fri May 18, 2012 4:11 pm

Ivan....As usual you always leave out the inconvenient stuff

Inflation and unemployment was at its highest since the war under Callaghan.
He buckled (too weak) to the unions and their greedy (selfish) demands, thus opening the floodgates for all to make similar crazy pay demands ensuring the Winter of discontent.
I see you didn't mention the devaluation of the pound to such level that we needed an IMF bailout of billions, on the condition that there were huge cuts in public expenditure........Greece anyone?
Crisis....What Crisis?

Thank heavens Thatcher came along....but Callaghans mistakes ensured Labour were in the wilderness for the next 18 years

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Post by blueturando Fri May 18, 2012 4:14 pm

Your turn. Tell us what you think was so bad about Jim Callaghan. Did he employ Murdoch's criminals? Did he surround himself with sleazy ministers and fund raisers promising access for cash? I'm all ears..

No but I guess he could have be Godfather to Murdochs children....Was that access for cash, or cash for honours...not sure what you meant Ivan?

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Post by oftenwrong Fri May 18, 2012 5:28 pm

When Harold Wilson resigned in 1976, Callaghan was elected the new Labour leader. Labour had already lost its majority in the House of Commons when he became Prime Minister and lost further seats at by-elections and through defections, forcing Callaghan to deal with minor parties such as the Liberal Party especially in the Lib-Lab pact from 1977 to 1978, the Ulster Unionists, Scottish National Party and even Independents. Industrial disputes and widespread strikes in the "Winter of Discontent" of 1978–79, made Callaghan's government unpopular and the defeat of the referendum on devolution for Scotland led to the passage of a motion of no confidence on 28 March 1979.

Can anyone explain why he was ever called "Lucky" Jim?
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Post by Redflag Fri May 18, 2012 8:28 pm

blueturando wrote:
Your turn. Tell us what you think was so bad about Jim Callaghan. Did he employ Murdoch's criminals? Did he surround himself with sleazy ministers and fund raisers promising access for cash? I'm all ears..

No but I guess he could have be Godfather to Murdochs children....Was that access for cash, or cash for honours...not sure what you meant Ivan?

I think you will find blue that it was Neil Hamilton was the cash for questions, and he was a Tory MP him and his wife now do the rounds of BB and Im a celebrity get me out of here.
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Post by jackthelad Fri May 18, 2012 8:50 pm

Can anyone explain why he was ever called "Lucky" Jim?


That was just a tongue in cheek remark, i am iternally gratefull to Lucky Jim, when he was chancellor he put ciggaretts up 7 pence a packet in 1974 and i stopped smoking. Never smoked since, saved a bob or two, or i would have if the misses hadn't spent it.
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Post by Red Cat Woman Fri May 18, 2012 10:12 pm

Redflag wrote:
blueturando wrote:
Your turn. Tell us what you think was so bad about Jim Callaghan. Did he employ Murdoch's criminals? Did he surround himself with sleazy ministers and fund raisers promising access for cash? I'm all ears..

No but I guess he could have be Godfather to Murdochs children....Was that access for cash, or cash for honours...not sure what you meant Ivan?

I think you will find blue that it was Neil Hamilton was the cash for questions, and he was a Tory MP him and his wife now do the rounds of BB and Im a celebrity get me out of here.

Hi Red
I always thought that Hamilton's wife was a very odd fish? Still they did share there deep love of the good life.
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Post by Redflag Sat May 19, 2012 9:15 am

Hi RCW

       I think to two of them make a right pair, the funny thing is he still say that he did not take money for questions and yet a court found him guilty.
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Post by tlttf Sat May 19, 2012 9:28 am

Ah, politicians, don't you just love them.

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Post by Redflag Sat May 19, 2012 5:43 pm

tlttf wrote:Ah, politicians, don't you just love them.

Definitely not all of them and because Im a bias Lefty not any of the Tory politicians.
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Post by Stox 16 Sat May 19, 2012 8:25 pm

But here is the real man who cannot face up to his own economic mess he is in.

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Post by Redflag Sat May 19, 2012 8:30 pm

Maybe he can not face up to the mess we are in, but Im certain the people of the UK will hold him to account when the time comes.
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Post by Stox 16 Sat May 19, 2012 9:03 pm

Redflag wrote:
Stox 16 wrote:But here is the real man who cannot face up to his own economic mess he is in.

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Maybe he can not face up to the mess we are in, but Im certain the people of the UK will hold him to account when the time comes.


You know red.... I just happen to believe your dead right they will do just that


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Post by Stox 16 Sat May 19, 2012 9:07 pm

Ivan wrote:When Labour came to power in 1997, their manifesto contained 229 promises. A BBC analysis five years later found that 181 of the promises, 80%, had been kept. As to the remaining 48 promises, the BBC decided that they were “either too difficult to judge or have not been met.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1961522.stm

Those people who make negative remarks such as “all politicians and parties are the same” would do well to compare Labour’s record on keeping promises with that of the Tories in the past two years. Dr Eoin Clarke has analysed the 2010 Tory manifesto and exposed some of its biggest lies:-

- The Tories said they would offer personalised tailored help to the long term unemployed (p.15), but they hid their plans to force disabled young people and others to work, unpaid, for profit-making companies like Tesco.

- The Tories said they would create 400,000 work-pairing college-based apprenticeship schemes over two years (p.17), but there are fewer than 10,000 apprenticeship places UK-wide.

- The Tories promised to reduce youth unemployment (p.5), but it has risen to an all-time high.

- The Tories said they'd cut child benefit for families earning more than £50,000, but they actually cut it for families where one person earns £44,000.

- The Tories said they'd raise the state pension age to 66, but then raised it to 67.

- The Tories promised to protect Child Trust Funds for the 33% poorest children, but instead axed them for all children.

- The Tories said they would give power to the Bank of England to crack down on bonuses (p.29), but nothing was done and bank bonuses have topped £6 billion in the past year.

- The Tories said they would protect the Winter Fuel Payment to pensioners (p.42), then cut it by £50 for some and £100 for others.

- The Tories said they would provide 4,200 extra Sure Start personnel (p.43). Instead they have cut £812 million in funding, which has resulted in the closing of more than 300 Sure Start Centres.

- The Tories claimed they would reduce unemployment and improve economic growth (p.3), but the opposite has occurred.

- The Tories concealed their plans to cut the Education Maintenance Allowance and raise VAT to 20%. They were also deliberately vague on their support for trebling tuition fees.

- The Tories promised to protect funding for Disability Living Allowance (p.42), which Cameron claimed for his own son, but then cut it for children receiving chemotherapy after they came to power. Now they’ve scrapped it altogether.

http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.com/2011/12/exposing-10-biggest-lies-in-tory.html

For more on the on the human cost of Tory disability cuts:-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/16/human-cost-disability-cuts?newsfeed=true

Other broken promises have been listed by 'Twitter' member @GracieSamuels:-

No cuts to public spending in 2010-11 (just 'efficiency savings').

No bonuses over £2,000 for bankers.

3,000 more police officers.

Keeping the Future Jobs Fund.

Pupil Premium to be additional to the schools budget.

‘Bonfire of the quangos’ (4,500 more bureaucrats have been recruited).

A Post Office Bank.

No cuts to the navy.

Three more army battalions.

Reduce immigration (it’s risen by 21% in one year).

Automatic prison sentence for carrying a knife.

Cutting rail fares each year.

NHS budget to be protected.

No cuts to frontline services.

3,000 more midwives.

No A&E and maternity unit closures.

And of course, the worst and most disgusting broken Tory promise, hidden from the voters but planned for years and rewarded by private healthcare firms:-

No top-down reorganisation of the NHS.

Is this the worst UK government ever? Have you ever read about or lived through two years of more malevolence towards the weakest in society, and more lies from a Prime Minister so mired in sleaze and corruption?


First class post Ivan. well done
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Post by Ivan Sun May 20, 2012 12:37 pm

Ivan....As usual you always leave out the inconvenient stuff

Inflation and unemployment was at its highest since the war under Callaghan.
He buckled (too weak) to the unions and their greedy (selfish) demands, thus opening the floodgates for all to make similar crazy pay demands ensuring the Winter of discontent.
I see you didn't mention the devaluation of the pound to such level that we needed an IMF bailout of billions, on the condition that there were huge cuts in public expenditure........Greece anyone?
Crisis....What Crisis?

Thank heavens Thatcher came along....but Callaghans mistakes ensured Labour were in the wilderness for the next 18 years
blueturando. The rapidly rising inflation which Labour inherited from the Tories in 1974 (caused partly by the ‘Barber boom’ and partly by the quadrupling in the price of oil) peaked in 1975. Callaghan became PM in 1976.

The job of a trade union is to try and protect the living standards of its members. If inflation is rising rapidly, any union worth its salt will seek a pay rise to ensure its members don’t fall behind. Wage rises tend to follow inflation, they don’t cause it. UK inflation in September 2011 was 5.2%, yet most people outside of banking haven’t had a pay rise for at least a couple of years. The value of the currency and commodity prices determine the rate of inflation. Unions aren’t causing the anticipated 15% rise in domestic fuel prices next winter.

Callaghan’s mistake was to blame the unions for inflation. Far from “buckling” to the unions, he imposed a 5% pay ceiling when inflation was running at around 10%. If he’d given in to the unions, there wouldn’t have been the so-called ‘Winter of Discontent’, would there? And just for the record, Callaghan never actually said “crisis, what crisis?”. That was just another dishonest tabloid headline from the Tory press determined to get Thatcher into power.

As a Tory, I think you have a cheek to say anything about unemployment. It was 1.4 million in 1979 and 3.2 million after four years of Thatcher. It was still higher in 1997 – at 1.8 million – than the Tories had inherited.

I see you didn’t mention that the Tories went to the IMF for a loan in 1956, or that the pound fell so low under Thatcher that it reached parity with the dollar in 1984. I read recently that the 1976 IMF loan of £2.3 billion (far less than Lamont squandered on ‘Black Wednesday’) may not have been needed at all, and that Treasury officials ‘bounced’ the government into seeking it. In any event, it wasn’t all used.

Contrary to the Tory myths, the UK economy was doing quite nicely by 1979. Inflation was lower than what Labour inherited and North Sea oil revenues were flowing in. Callaghan did a pretty good job considering the problems he faced and which oftenwrong has described. Labour was out of power for 18 years because of the Falklands, the splitting of the left vote with the creation of the SDP, Tory bribes of cheap shares and council houses, and Major’s bare-faced lie about “cutting taxes year on year”.

Let’s get back to the subject of this thread. Perhaps the most telling aspect is that you haven’t refuted any of the evidence from my opening posting which shows just how unremittingly awful this government is. I can’t think of one thing for which it deserves praise: even the raising of the starting tax threshold was accompanied by a VAT rise and a NI rise which the Tories had promised to cancel. On the other hand, when I described the good things about Callaghan’s government, you didn’t actually dispute them. This government is clearly worse than any other, at least in living memory.
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Post by bobby Sun May 20, 2012 2:37 pm

Blue. For someone who implies he had an interest or knowledge of politics from before the age of 9, you really are very misinformed. Perhaps like me, you should have played sport or played with girls.
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Post by ahddrv Sun May 20, 2012 11:54 pm

Hello everyone and Ivan, thanks for that. It sets out exactly how much Coalition are letting us down and destroying UK society which will have far-reaching consequences that will take years to rectify. It's heartening to see Labour doing so well in polls but people have short memories or are too young to remember the Thatcher years and are only just beginning to realise that we are being robbed daily by Cameron & Co while the richest get even richer.
More insidious is the rhetoric used by govt to demonise benefit recipients, whether unemployed, sick or disabled or to help towards extortionate rents by dodgy landlords. It's classic divide and rule but unfortunately as a result of govt policy poverty, homelessness and misery is just around the corner. Cameron lied when he said the 'genuinely sick' need not worry and would be protected, just as he lied about 'no top-down reorganisation of NHS'
Cameron is running public services/NHS into the ground, setting unattainable deadlines, stretching staff to beyond their limits so he can introduce private enterprise in order to 'save our services' and line the pockets of his friends.
Yes Ivan, I agree. This is the worst government ever. Liars, thieves, greedy and divisive, arrogant and incompetent and they did NOT win a majority despite a hugely unpopular Labour leader at the GE. We desperately need them removed before UK erupts in anger.
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Post by Stox 16 Mon May 21, 2012 4:17 am

ahddrv wrote:Hello everyone and Ivan, thanks for that. It sets out exactly how much Coalition are letting us down and destroying UK society which will have far-reaching consequences that will take years to rectify. It's heartening to see Labour doing so well in polls but people have short memories or are too young to remember the Thatcher years and are only just beginning to realise that we are being robbed daily by Cameron & Co while the richest get even richer.
More insidious is the rhetoric used by govt to demonise benefit recipients, whether unemployed, sick or disabled or to help towards extortionate rents by dodgy landlords. It's classic divide and rule but unfortunately as a result of govt policy poverty, homelessness and misery is just around the corner. Cameron lied when he said the 'genuinely sick' need not worry and would be protected, just as he lied about 'no top-down reorganisation of NHS'
Cameron is running public services/NHS into the ground, setting unattainable deadlines, stretching staff to beyond their limits so he can introduce private enterprise in order to 'save our services' and line the pockets of his friends.
Yes Ivan, I agree. This is the worst government ever. Liars, thieves, greedy and divisive, arrogant and incompetent and they did NOT win a majority despite a hugely unpopular Labour leader at the GE. We desperately need them removed before UK erupts in anger.

Well welcome to the forum ahddrv. all I could add to your most excellent summary is you have it all spot on my friend.

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Post by bobby Mon May 21, 2012 8:23 am

Hello ahddrv. Welcome to Cutting Edge. I fully concur with Stox, a very good post.
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Post by Mel Mon May 21, 2012 8:30 am

Welcome ahddrv. Your comments hit the nail on the head. Thank you.
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Post by Redflag Mon May 21, 2012 10:11 am

Mel wrote:Welcome ahddrv. Your comments hit the nail on the head. Thank you.

Welcome ahddrv A great post and too the bloody point.
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Post by ahddrv Thu May 24, 2012 12:14 am

Thanks for your welcomes! I hope that I haven't somehow stifled debate after Ivan's brilliant summary of how the Coalition has let us down? Did you see Cameron today call Balls a 'muttering idiot' at PMQs today? A vile government that has let us down, trodden on us and has yet to spit us out.
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Post by Adele Carlyon Thu May 24, 2012 8:27 am

Great post ahddrv! Welcome to cutting edge! Yes, vile and dangerous indeed! I've never felt this scared in my life. Sad
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Post by Red Cat Woman Thu May 24, 2012 8:40 am

ahddrv wrote:Thanks for your welcomes! I hope that I haven't somehow stifled debate after Ivan's brilliant summary of how the Coalition has let us down? Did you see Cameron today call Balls a 'muttering idiot' at PMQs today? A vile government that has let us down, trodden on us and has yet to spit us out.

Hi ahddrv and welcome too the forum. love your doggies too
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Post by Red Cat Woman Thu May 24, 2012 8:42 am

Adele Carlyon wrote:Great post ahddrv! Welcome to cutting edge! Yes, vile and dangerous indeed! I've never felt this scared in my life. Sad

me too Adele. but i am with you huni bunch xxxx

ps. we will fight them hun xx
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Post by Blamhappy Fri May 25, 2012 11:40 am

Why doesn't anyone like Balls? Is it because he's forthright?

I've always found him gorgeous! Heehee!
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Post by blueturando Fri May 25, 2012 12:20 pm

No Helen,

It's because he's a smarmy odious t*sser.....Eric Pickles love child no less

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Post by sickchip Fri May 25, 2012 12:42 pm

Michael Gove: half man half toad.

Jeremy Hunt: duplicitous c---.

David Cameron: bastard son of royalty.

Gideon Osborne: tax dodger.

Welcome to your government.
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Post by oftenwrong Fri May 25, 2012 12:51 pm

So the lunatics have taken charge of the asylum.

But who was it that let them in?
People who did nothing.
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Post by bobby Fri May 25, 2012 1:24 pm

blue my friend. The people who dislike Ed Balls the most are you Tories. It is only natural and human to dislike something or someone who frightens you, Ed Balls is far to clever for anyone who is currently opposing him on the Coalition front bench, and is proved to be right in almost all he says. He predicted this double dip recession way back when the Tory led Coalition embarked on their ridiculous path of Austerity with bugger all to promote growth. And who better as Chancellor of the Exchequer, a Posh boy shelf stacker who had everything presented to him Gratis, or a Man with a Degree in Economics. I know who my choice would be irrespective of political party’s
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Post by blueturando Fri May 25, 2012 1:39 pm

Bobby....I have no doubt he is a clever man and an experienced economist, but I do take exception to his fake diatribe regarding the current state of the economy, since he was a large part of the problem left to US by the last government......Sorry there's no money left

And for such a 'clever man' he really should grow up when he's in PMQs. Still it was nice to see Cameron wipe the inane grin off the posh boy millionaire with a masters in economics.

PS....Frightened? In your dreams

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Post by Phil Hornby Fri May 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Quote : "Michael Gove: half man half toad."

Something of an under estimate on the toad front, methinks....

Indeed, the Gove entity is more akin to a mix of rat and slug. On a good day.... Shocked



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Post by bobby Fri May 25, 2012 5:03 pm

Bluey. Just how many times has it been said that the state of the Economy was in a much better state than it is after two years of your Tories Austerity, until the Banking Failure we had a stronger economy in 2010 than we inherited from your Tories in 1997, not only that, but with the Banking Failure, our economy was in growth and unemployment dropping in and up to the Coalition Government took over, and completely bollixed things up.

Ed Balls was a convenient scapegoat for the Tories, someone to blame for some problems that weren’t, like the note saying “sorry there’s no cash left” everyone but the Tories know it was a joke, but for them a joke they could use to get their privatisation of the NHS, cuts in welfare benefits etc, etc, Herr Cameron used every dirty trick in the book to bring in his Austerity measures, all the time saying “its someone else’s fault.

You said some time ago that you are quite a nice bloke, That blue may well be your problem. Perhaps your too nice to see through the filth perpetrated by the Tories. But then again if you where such a nice bloke, you would never have been a Tory.
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