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Post by Ivan Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:21 pm

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In my opinion, the UK under our extreme right-wing government is rapidly degenerating into velvet glove fascism.

Like all fascists, Hitler was against trade unions and socialists. Similarly, Michael Gove vilified primary school teachers and dinner ladies, many of whom went on strike for the first time in their lives on 30 November last year, as “militants itching for a fight”. Gove has plans for military cadets in every school (Cameron Youth?) and a return to children sitting in rows reciting lists of kings and queens in history lessons, rather than learning to think. Hitler also realised how important history was to indoctrination when he ordered the mass burning of books. Tories close libraries.

Hitler made sure that he controlled the media. The Tories have cowed the BBC by threats of fragmentation and sharing the licence fee with others, such as Murdoch. The BBC, which was required to be impartial, has become just another mouthpiece for Tory propaganda. As soon as they came to power in 2010, the Tories instructed every minister to repeat over and over again the whopping lie that Labour, not Tory bankers, caused the global credit crisis. We have the repeated lie about everyone in the public sector getting “gold-plated pensions”, when the average is only £5,600 per annum. As Goebbels said: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Cameron has proved over and over again that he’s a pathological liar.

Hitler divided and ruled the German people by scapegoating Jews and gypsies. The Tories are demonising those who receive benefits, one result of which is that disability hate crimes are increasing. Duncan Smith went on breakfast television on 27 May 2010 and made the chilling remark: "Work makes you free". That's an exact translation of the sign which used to hang over the entrances to concentration camps.

The Tories have plans to force 50,000 disabled youth to work for companies such as Sainsbury's and Tesco's unpaid. Cancer patients are being made to undergo work assessments while being treated with chemotherapy, and wounded soldiers are being sacked. (Osborne is willing to take money from the disabled and cancer patients, but not prepared to veto Hester's bonus from the largely state-owned RBS.)

The police are being trained to shoot people with rubber bullets and will be issued with water cannon, yet the Tories were so keen on helping Arab rebels in North Africa. Two unknown Scottish teenagers made a joke on 'Facebook' about organising riots, and they both received four years in jail. A prominent Tory TV presenter (and personal friend of Cameron) made a tasteless joke about murdering trade unionists on prime time television; nothing was done about it and the BBC continue to pay him £1 million a year of our money.

We don't have any concentration camps in the UK, but the principles are the same - propaganda, indoctrination, and divide and rule by demonising a section of the population. While Hitler gassed Jews, the Tories clearly don't care if benefit claimants starve to death. Even payments from the Social Fund, for those in the most desperate need, will no longer be available from job centres but will be at the 'discretion' of local councils, who will not have to ring-fence the money. All the ingredients of fascism are there, but it's just being handed out to us in a more genteel form than Hitler used - in velvet gloves.



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Post by Dan Fante Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:01 pm

Ivan wrote:boatlady. Of the four women in that photo, three have since been sacked! What a Face 
 
What the photo doesn't show is their vast collective wealth and their educational background. Most if not all of them are part of both the richest 1% in the country and the 7% who go to public schools. As you suggest, they're not very representative of the people they're meant to serve.
 
(Now wait for a Tory apologist to come along and say "Labour are just the same". They're not, and Ed Miliband went to a comprehensive school. There will also be a lot more women in the next government than this one.)
I think Labour need to play on this when the Tories inevitably bring out the dirty tricks when campaigning for the election begins in earnest. The current government could have come from a whole different era of politics in terms of their backgrounds. It's almost like the twentieth century never happened.

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Post by Bellatori Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:19 pm

Ivan wrote:... (Now wait for a Tory apologist to come along and say "Labour are just the same". They're not, and Ed Miliband went to a comprehensive school. ...)
You don't think that that is a bit childish? Do you know where chalk farm is? I doubt Ed's father would have considered a private school but he was quite selective with his choice. I wonder if he looked at a map before selecting where he lived? (That's tongue in cheek BTW - though I have not met a mother of any worth and substance who did not have an opinion on the subject.)

You might like to look at the education of Labour Leaders. It makes interesting reading.

Name School End
ANCIENT
James Keir Hardie Local primary 7
Arthur Henderson Local primary 12
George Nicoll Barnes Local primary 11
James Ramsay Macdonald Drainie parish school 15
William Adamson Local primary 11
John Robert Clynes Local primary 10
James Ramsay Macdonald Drainie parish school 15
George Lansbury Whitechapple 14
MODERN
Clement Richard Attlee   Haileybury & Oxford 21
Hugh Todd Naylor Gaitskell Winchester & Oxford 21
James Harold Wilson Wirral Grammar & Oxford 21
Leonard James Callaghan Portsmouth Northern Secondary 17
Michael Mackintosh Foot Leighton Park Independent School & Oxford 21
Neil Gordon Kinnock Lewis School & Uni of Sth Wales 21
John Smith Dunoon Grammar & Glasgow Uni 21
Anthony Charles Lynton Blair Fettes College & Oxford 22
Gordon Brown Kirkcaldy High School & Edinburgh 21+
Ed Miliband Haverstock, Oxford & London 22

The only one who had a hard time of it in recent years would be Jim Callaghan whose parents could not afford for him to go further with his education. There is an awful lot of Grammar and private schools in there post war and also a lot of Oxford. What happened to the hard working self educated men that dragged the Labour party up from nothing?

Ed Miliband's father did not hate Britain. As a throw away title it certainly engendered controversy but it was both malicious and spiteful. His father 'hated' the establishment and what it stood for. Even so he was happy enough to be a Professor at Leeds etc. which could also be viewed as part of an establishment. However you view it Ed did not go without. In fact he had quite an enjoyable childhood by his own accounts.

My point is that, once again you are trying to make Ed out to be something he is not... a man of the people. He is one of the Educated political elite of Labour that we seem now to have. He had a head start from his father's close friendship with Tony Benn.

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Post by bobby Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:59 pm

Beautiful Tory said.
 My point is that, once again you are trying to make Ed out to be something he is not... a man of the people. He is one of the Educated political elite of Labour that we seem now to have. He had a head start from his father's close friendship with Tony Benn.

Are you honestly trying to tell us, a man with a decent education can not be a man of the people, what about one of Labours most left wing MP's Mr Anthony Wedgewood Ben ( I can't remember what his title was).

By saying what you have, you most certainly paint a good picture of those who are currently a part of the Tory led Coalition.
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Post by Bellatori Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:35 pm

bobby wrote:Beautiful Tory said.
How very childish you are... is that really the best you can manage, pathetic insults.

Try stopping and thinking for a while. Here's a thought you might like to consider. Look at this list of names

James Keir Hardie
Arthur Henderson
George Nicoll Barnes
James Ramsay Macdonald
William Adamson
John Robert Clynes
James Ramsay Macdonald
George Lansbury

Now how does Ed fit in with this group. They would have shown him the door and told him to come back when he had learned something about the working class. Look at his CV. Where has he had a proper job in his life? One year working on a week in Politics and then a political gopher.

I am looking for a left of centre party run by people who know the working class and not just from what they read in their daily paper. You it would seem despise Cameron but will happily vote the other Tory party in without a second thought.

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Post by Redflag Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:03 pm

bobby wrote:Beautiful Tory said.
 My point is that, once again you are trying to make Ed out to be something he is not... a man of the people. He is one of the Educated political elite of Labour that we seem now to have. He had a head start from his father's close friendship with Tony Benn.

Are you honestly trying to tell us, a man with a decent education can not be a man of the people, what about one of Labours most left wing MP's Mr Anthony Wedgewood Ben ( I can't remember what his title was).

By saying what you have, you most certainly paint a good picture of those who are currently a part of the Tory led Coalition.
 
 
Can you imagine a Tory Lord giving up his title because I think that Hell would have to freeze over first bobby, I hate the way some people on here tend to class all people the same. Their problem is they should take a good hard look at themselves before they start throwing stones at others. :yeahthat:
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Post by oftenwrong Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:29 pm

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That fifty-year-old TV sketch "I look up to him .." is alarmingly still relevant.  The Toffs like to feel superior, and too many of the less exalted encourage them in such beliefs.
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Post by Ivan Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:37 pm

Does history repeat itself?
 
Fifty years ago, we had a Tory government embroiled in sleaze and scandal and led by an out-of-touch Old Etonian. By the end of the year, the PM was gone - only to be replaced by another Old Etonian.
Rolling Eyes 
 
I wonder if Boris Johnson is aware of that? What a Face
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Post by Ivan Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:51 pm

Bellatori wrote:-
You…..will happily vote the other Tory Party in without a second thought.
 
From what you’ve told us, it’s you who has been voting for “the other Tory Party”, the one which has been a part of the most right-wing government in living memory.
 
If you were trying to smear the Labour Party with “the other Tory Party” label, perhaps you could tell us which of the following proposals are ‘Tory’ ones?
 
• Repeal the Health and Social Care Act (otherwise known as the NHS Privatisation Act)
• Reverse the bedroom tax
• Scrap Workfare and replace it with a ‘compulsory’ jobs guarantee
• Scrap Ofgem and freeze energy prices to provide time to bring in proper energy price regulation
• Support mining communities and clean coal technology
• Back small businesses by cutting business rates in 2015 and freezing them in 2016
• Build 200,000 homes a year by 2020
• Regulate private rents
• End the abuse of zero hours contracts and strengthen the minimum wage
• Promote a living wage for public sector workers and shame the private sector into following that lead
• Expand free childcare for 3 and 4 year olds to 25 hours a week for working parents
• Restore the 10p starting rate of income tax
• Restore the 50p rate of income tax for the super-rich
• Impose a mansion tax on the rich
• Implement the High Pay Commission report in its entirety
• Offer a VAT cut or a ‘temporary’ VAT holiday
• Repeat the bankers’ bonus tax
• Break up the banks and set up a National Investment Bank
• Offer a minimum 33-40% cut in tuition fees
• Limit rail fare increases to 1%
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Post by Bellatori Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:33 pm

Redflag wrote:... Can you imagine a Tory Lord giving up his title because I think that Hell would have to freeze over first bobby, ...
I bet it has turned really cold where you are then... Very Happy 

Alec Douglas Hume... took me two minutes to find this out.

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Post by Bellatori Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:35 pm

Ivan wrote:Does history repeat itself?
 
Fifty years ago, we had a Tory government embroiled in sleaze and scandal and led by an out-of-touch Old Etonian. By the end of the year, the PM was gone - only to be replaced by another Old Etonian.
Rolling Eyes 
 
I wonder if Boris Johnson is aware of that? What a Face
When Cameron loses the next election I wonder who will come out on top of the night of the long knives.

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Post by bobby Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:47 pm

Beautiful Tory said:
 I am looking for a left of centre party run by people who know the working class and not just from what they read in their daily paper. You it would seem despise Cameron but will happily vote the other Tory party in without a second thought.

And exactly wot uver Torys would that be, The spelling mistakes are so that you can feel even more inflated than you already am, or perhaps I am just being childish again.
By the way, looking at your previous posts, it seems you have a thing about children, very worrying.
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Post by Redflag Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:06 am

Bellatori wrote:
Redflag wrote:... Can you imagine a Tory Lord giving up his title because I think that Hell would have to freeze over first bobby, ...
I bet it has turned really cold where you are then... Very Happy 

Alec Douglas Hume... took me two minutes to find this out.

There will be quite a few feeling the cold when Ed Miliband gets into No10.:yeahthat: 
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Post by Bellatori Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:37 am

Redflag wrote:
Bellatori wrote:
Redflag wrote:... Can you imagine a Tory Lord giving up his title because I think that Hell would have to freeze over first bobby, ...
I bet it has turned really cold where you are then... Very Happy 

Alec Douglas Hume... took me two minutes to find this out.
There will be quite a few feeling the cold when Ed Miliband gets into No10.:yeahthat: 
That will be because the lights and power are going out over the UK from fiscal extravagance perhaps? Very Happy 

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Post by Bellatori Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:47 am

bobby wrote:...or perhaps I am just being childish again...
Idon't think you mean again, I suspect you mean still. As you clearly wish to be insulting perhaps I should call you 'Dog Breath' because your comments stink Very Happy 


bobby wrote:And exactly wot uver Torys would that be, The spelling mistakes are so that you can feel even more inflated than you already am
I don't need to see spelling mistakes to know that you are displaying a juvenile naivety in blindly supporting the 'other Tory' Party. Still generally ignorance brings its own reward.

I note your somewhat snide comment about children. You are an unpleasant fellow aren't you but feel free to carry on the pointless abuse. I doubt the moderators will take you to task because you claim to be an alternative right wing supporter.


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Post by bobby Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:22 am

Beautiful Tory said.
I don't need to see spelling mistakes to know that you are displaying a juvenile naivety in blindly supporting the 'other Tory' Party. Still generally ignorance brings its own reward.
 
You silly person, you have absolutely no knowledge of my political views. If you had been on this forum longer than a menstrual cycle , you would know that my support for Labour is simply that for me they are the best of what we have added to the fact that your Tories are and have been the worst. I say your Tories as it seems to me that you damn Labour at every opportunity and have a tendency to complain less about the Tory scum who have and are still dragging the poorest and weakest down. Don't get me wrong I am neither poor nor weak, quite the reverse in fact, for me it is a matter of fairness.
Please so long as it pleases you, continue to call me things such as "dogs breath and childish" it takes a hell of a lot more than those intellectually charged insults to get under my skin, and in my time I've had to deal with a lot more than a mere Keyboard Gangster.
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Post by Bellatori Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:02 pm

What a sad person you are... you started being insulting and the name calling and then whinge about it at some length and blame me Very Happy. I think you come under Ivan's definition of a troll. You clearly have not read many of my posts or you would know what I think about the Tories so your comments are made on the back of fresh air whereas I am responding directly to your posts and their content. I note that your last post was totally devoid of any content relating to any of the issues that are under discussion. It was just one long pointless moan. As Sid James would have said ...
 
Bobby... CARRY ON TROLLING


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Post by oftenwrong Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:35 pm

"one long pointless moan" characterises more than one source of recent contributions.
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Post by Redflag Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:52 am

Bellatori wrote: That will be because the lights and power are going out over the UK from fiscal extravagance perhaps? Very Happy 
 
You're spot on bellatori the EXTRAVAGANCE of FIVE YEARS of Tory gov't giving to the Rich while taking from the poor and vulnerable, not forgetting handing OUR NHS to their friends in the private health sector so that Tory MPs can get huge DIVIDENDS from their shares in these companies. There will be scandal after scandal coming to light and the Labour gov't of 2015 will find itself up to its eyes in the Tory MIRE but I hope to see quite a lot of them up in court for THEFT from the good people of the UK and I am keeping my fingers crossed some of the people that have been defrauded are on the Juries.:yeahthat:
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Post by Bellatori Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:20 am

Redflag wrote:I hope to see quite a lot of them up in court for THEFT from the good people of the UK and I am keeping my fingers crossed some of the people that have been defrauded are on the Juries.:yeahthat:
 
I have to say it is a very appealing idea Very Happy but it will never happen. Mad  Look how few MPs were actually prosecuted over the expenses scandal. They were mainly allowed to disappear with their fat pension back into the safety of obscurity. Only the grossly venal were prosecuted and they probably feel they were scapegoated. Smile

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Post by Redflag Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:18 am

We will just need to hope bellatori that the next Labour gov't in 2015 will be one of not just FAIRNESS but a JUST one also, I do not want any scapegoating just Justice for the people of the UK no more of MPs fading into the background but to face the courts for the wrong they have done and after this lot is finished  the Judges, Juries lawyers and in some cases Barristers wil be kept very very BUSY.:yeahthat:
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Post by Ivan Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:53 am

This is an old story, but it reveals the fascist mindset of at least one prominent Tory in Swindon:-
 
Tory deputy mayor: "Best thing for disabled children is the guillotine"
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-deputy-mayor-owen-lister-558677
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Post by oftenwrong Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:01 pm

Mad Maggie got the same sort of flak, when all she cut was their milk.
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Post by Redflag Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:04 am

Ivan wrote:This is an old story, but it reveals the fascist mindset of at least one prominent Tory in Swindon:-
 
Tory deputy mayor: "Best thing for disabled children is the guillotine"
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-deputy-mayor-owen-lister-558677
There is only one set of people that should be lined up at a GUILLOTINE Ivan that is the entire Tory party and there voters which would consist of the fatcats of the business world :yeahthat: 
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:52 am

Are the Tories velvet glove fascists? - Page 22 FrenchGuillotine

et maintenant....  It's the 1789 Show!  
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Post by blueturando Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:14 pm

There is only one set of people that should be lined up at a GUILLOTINE Ivan that is the entire Tory party and there voters which would consist of the fatcats of the business world .
Thats 10,703,000 fatcats in the UK....Wow we must be doing so well as a country then Redflag, thanks the vote of support for the Tories

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Post by oftenwrong Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:20 pm

It's distinctly unfortunate that so many "Fat Cats" think we must be talking about someone else.
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Post by Redflag Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:21 pm

blueturando wrote:Thats 10,703,000 fatcats in the UK....Wow we must be doing so well as a country then Redflag, thanks the vote of support for the Tories
 
 
As you well know blue I was not backing the VILE GREEDY Tories, more like I would offer myself to OPERATE the GUILOTINE to chop there heads off then go home to bed and sleep with a CLEAR CONSCIOUS, because all I would have done is RID the UK of the biggest shower of BACKSTUDS that ever drew breath. :yeahthat:
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:12 pm

It may not be fair to criticise Tory MPs - many of whom work closely with the homeless - renting former council property to them sometimes at less than half their monthly income.
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Post by Phil Hornby Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:32 pm

It is the least they can do - having made so many of the poor souls homeless in the first place...
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Post by Redflag Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:16 am

 You may have hit upon the truth PH, get the people out of council homes so they have to go to the private sector for a roof over their heads,I know that Huhne has a portfolio of 24 properties to rent thus costing the tax payer more money but this is not news they spend OUR money on second homes even though they only live ONE hour away from the HOC (Eric Pickles) food not forgetting their gas and electric bills for their homes and businesses.:yeahthat:
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Post by oftenwrong Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:10 pm

It might be a positive move to unite election of an MP on the ballot paper with a plebiscite on the remuneration they can expect to receive.

Their current practise of deciding their own salaries does not apply to any other class of public servant that I can think of.
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Post by Phil Hornby Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:17 pm

In these days of 'austerity' it is surprising just how much cash can be asked of some public services which - because of cuts - no longer have the staff capacity to undertake certain tasks on their own account...
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Post by Redflag Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:25 pm

It's also funny PH in these times of austerity we have not got any money for the public sector but we still have enough to pay for 11% pay rise for the MPs and pay their Utility bills, I ofter wonder where this money comes from but have a good idea EXACTLY where it is coming from.:yeahthat:
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Post by Phil Hornby Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:50 am

But how could a chap with such a reassuring smile be malicious in any way...?

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Post by Redflag Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:50 am

Phil Hornby wrote:But how could a chap with such a reassuring smile be malicious in any way...?

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The reason is PH he is sly as a fox, maybe that is the reason he enjoys hunting foxes, trying to do away with his own species.:yeahthat: 
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:11 pm

There is a beautiful symmetry about the arch-capitalist having to be agreeable to a firmly Communist regime, though, Redflag.

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Post by Redflag Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:17 am

oftenwrong wrote:There is a beautiful symmetry about the arch-capitalist having to be agreeable to a firmly Communist regime, though, Redflag.

I agree OW it also shows they will deal with anyone as longs as it brings them in profit for themselves and Tory donors.:yeahthat: 
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Post by Dan Fante Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:00 pm

oftenwrong wrote:There is a beautiful symmetry about the arch-capitalist having to be agreeable to a firmly Communist regime, though, Redflag.

It's not a Communist regime in reality though, is it? It's an undemocratic Capitalist one.
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Post by oftenwrong Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:02 pm

That's the key, isn't it, Redflag. Tories are totally shameless, as they have demonstrated almost daily for the past three and a half years.
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