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Post by James73 on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:13 am

Florence Green, the last living veteran of World War I, died last Saturday at the age of 110. Florence, who was Britain's sixth oldest person, was 17 when she joined the newly-formed WRAF in September 1918 in the final months of the conflict.

You would think the Government would have prepared a state funeral for her, as a tribute for all the men and women who spilt their blood in the name of the United Kingdom. But no such tribute is forthcoming. The Tory government, hopelessly out of touch with our nation's respect for its war heroes, has prepared no special ceremonies whatsoever.

The Tories have no respect for the heroes of Great Britain. The Tories don't understand our history and culture. The Tories must go.
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Post by astra on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:43 am

The Torys (and Herr Cameron) have no more intrest in the underclasses, than another Prime Minister - Pitt the younger (see Pitt quotas act) had in the early 1800's!

The Whiggs are no more, but who were they reformed as?

Nuffin' changes.

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"Additionally, in times of war, other methods of recruitment were used. In 1795, during the French Revolutionary War, the Prime Minister, William Pitt, introduced the Quota Acts (one for Navy, other for Army) to supplement recruitment to the navy. This meant that each county in Britain had to provide a quota of men for naval service. The number of men to be provided was dependant on the county population and the number of seaports it contained. As an illustration, London was expected to provide 5704 men for naval service. To induce men to sign up, counties usually offered a bounty. However, this did not usually ensure the required number and counties had to resort to other methods of recruitment. Criminals, convicted of petty offences, were offered the choice of joining up for naval service (with the added incentive of a pension at the end of their service) or the normal harsh prison sentence for the crime committed. In some cases, the presence of convicts added to the navy's problems by bringing with them diseases that were rife in the jails and causing the spread of disease amongst the crew."


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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:51 am

Overuse of the word "hero" by the Press has to a certain extent debased the currency. Without in any way wishing to detract from the heartwarming story of a courageous lady, her First World War military service was as a mess steward at RAF bases in Marham and Narborough.

Essential and undoubtedly appreciated at the time, it's not quite the stuff of State Funerals.
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Post by James73 on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:11 am

oftenwrong wrote:Essential and undoubtedly appreciated at the time, it's not quite the stuff of State Funerals.
It would have been a state funeral in representation of all the men and women who gave their lives for Great Britain in the First World War.

This is yet another example of how the Tories don't care about the British people and their history.
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:45 pm

James1973 wrote:
oftenwrong wrote:Essential and undoubtedly appreciated at the time, it's not quite the stuff of State Funerals.
It would have been a state funeral in representation of all the men and women who gave their lives for Great Britain in the First World War.

This is yet another example of how the Tories don't care about the British people and their history.

"... in representation of all the men and women who gave their lives for Great Britain in the First World War."

See: Armistice Parade, The Cenotaph, Whitehall, November 11 every year.
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Post by blueturando on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:29 pm

You would think the Government would have prepared a state funeral for her

Get a grip James......If she had died 3 years ago and had the same funeral as she had recently would you be saying the same thing? I doubt it

This is yet another example of how the Tories don't care about the British people and their history

I swear some of you here are seriously losing the plot...Next it will be the fault of the tories for the Christian Crusades.....cukoo, cukoo

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Post by bobby on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:55 pm

I thought we already had a monument for those that gave their all during every war, its called the Cenotaph, and almost every town and village has some kind of memorial.
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Post by bobby on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:00 pm

bluey, your not trying to tell me, Count Raymond 1V of Toulouse was not a Tory.Very Happy
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Post by blueturando on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:49 pm

Lol Bobby.....Ok I confess he was Thatchers ancestor Laughing

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Post by bobby on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:24 pm

I'm glad we sorted that one out.
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Post by kentdougal on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:27 pm

astra wrote:The Torys (and Herr Cameron) have no more intrest in the underclasses, than another Prime Minister - Pitt the younger (see Pitt quotas act) had in the early 1800's!

The Whiggs are no more, but who were they reformed as?

Nuffin' changes.

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"Additionally, in times of war, other methods of recruitment were used. In 1795, during the French Revolutionary War, the Prime Minister, William Pitt, introduced the Quota Acts (one for Navy, other for Army) to supplement recruitment to the navy. This meant that each county in Britain had to provide a quota of men for naval service. The number of men to be provided was dependant on the county population and the number of seaports it contained. As an illustration, London was expected to provide 5704 men for naval service. To induce men to sign up, counties usually offered a bounty. However, this did not usually ensure the required number and counties had to resort to other methods of recruitment. Criminals, convicted of petty offences, were offered the choice of joining up for naval service (with the added incentive of a pension at the end of their service) or the normal harsh prison sentence for the crime committed. In some cases, the presence of convicts added to the navy's problems by bringing with them diseases that were rife in the jails and causing the spread of disease amongst the crew."
Jesus- I knew you lot live in the past but this is ridiculous. This board needs renaming Socialist Dinosaurs RUS I realise it was only created as platform for your whinges and so that you could feel sorry for yourselves
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Post by blueturando on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:16 pm

This board needs renaming Socialist Dinosaurs RUS

Hilarious Kentdougal...... Laughing

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Post by astradt1 on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:54 pm

Socialist Dinosaurs

I wonder where we have heard Dinosaurs used when talking about socialist before?.....Oh yes, didn't mrs T like to use it, when talking about trade unionist, back in the 70's and 80's and wasn't resurrected recently by camoron?

The longer thsi condem government goes on the more it feels like the 1980's

And kent goes on about lefties living in the past!!!!!

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Post by astra on Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:45 am

I wouldn't mind so much if I WAS a Labour supporter!! I ain't!


Not a Bory fan either!


But some folks like their lives nice 'n' orderly like, with everything and everyone in it's "proper pigeon hole!
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:51 pm

Definition of an overworked adjective:

A hero (heroine is usually used for females) (Ancient Greek: ἥρως, hḗrōs), in Greek mythology and folklore, was originally a demigod, their cult being one of the most distinctive features of ancient Greek religion.[1] Later, hero (male) and heroine (female) came to refer to characters who, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and the will for self sacrifice—that is, heroism—for some greater good of all humanity. This definition originally referred to martial courage or excellence but extended to more general moral excellence.

But in 2012 .................

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Post by Redflag on Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:04 pm

oftenwrong wrote:
James1973 wrote:
oftenwrong wrote:Essential and undoubtedly appreciated at the time, it's not quite the stuff of State Funerals.
It would have been a state funeral in representation of all the men and women who gave their lives for Great Britain in the First World War.

This is yet another example of how the Tories don't care about the British people and their history.

"... in representation of all the men and women who gave their lives for Great Britain in the First World War."

See: Armistice Parade, The Cenotaph, Whitehall, November 11 every year.

They seem to forget World War 1 & 2 the men that gave there lives so that we would not be ruled by Germans, its a pity the likes of Thatcher and Scam..er..on where around then we could of used them as cannon fodder because that is all they are good for, the way they are treating our armed forces now is shameful.
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:10 am

kentdougal wrote:
astra wrote:The Torys (and Herr Cameron) have no more intrest in the underclasses, than another Prime Minister - Pitt the younger (see Pitt quotas act) had in the early 1800's!

The Whiggs are no more, but who were they reformed as?

Nuffin' changes.

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"Additionally, in times of war, other methods of recruitment were used. In 1795, during the French Revolutionary War, the Prime Minister, William Pitt, introduced the Quota Acts (one for Navy, other for Army) to supplement recruitment to the navy. This meant that each county in Britain had to provide a quota of men for naval service. The number of men to be provided was dependant on the county population and the number of seaports it contained. As an illustration, London was expected to provide 5704 men for naval service. To induce men to sign up, counties usually offered a bounty. However, this did not usually ensure the required number and counties had to resort to other methods of recruitment. Criminals, convicted of petty offences, were offered the choice of joining up for naval service (with the added incentive of a pension at the end of their service) or the normal harsh prison sentence for the crime committed. In some cases, the presence of convicts added to the navy's problems by bringing with them diseases that were rife in the jails and causing the spread of disease amongst the crew."
Jesus- I knew you lot live in the past but this is ridiculous. This board needs renaming Socialist Dinosaurs RUS I realise it was only created as platform for your whinges and so that you could feel sorry for yourselves

A quite silly post this. Still I am sure you enjoyed posting it.
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Post by Redflag on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:20 am

blueturando wrote:
You would think the Government would have prepared a state funeral for her

Get a grip James......If she had died 3 years ago and had the same funeral as she had recently would you be saying the same thing? I doubt it

This is yet another example of how the Tories don't care about the British people and their history

I swear some of you here are seriously losing the plot...Next it will be the fault of the tories for the Christian Crusades.....cukoo, cukoo

This is where I MUST step in blue, the way this gov't is treating our armed forces is shameful, and just you remember who would do the fighting IF we where invaded by a nutcase of a gov't as Im sure you know they are plenty out there that would invade if they thought they had a chance of conquering the UK. So a little less of the sarcasm when talking about the great armed forces.
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:54 pm

Just as long as they're not arrogant enough to dare to give that she devil thatcher a state funeral!
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:07 pm

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I hope she burns in hell, but on second thoughts, sh*t doesn't burn!

p.s sorry for going off topic...I promise to be a good girl from now on! Twisted Evil
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:42 pm

" I promise to be a good girl from now on!"

Damn. Just as it was getting interesting.

But what self-respecting fire would consume her? And would Satan let her in anyway? Surely even Hell has some standards... Shocked
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:05 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:" I promise to be a good girl from now on!"

Damn. Just as it was getting interesting.

But what self-respecting fire would consume her? And would Satan let her in anyway? Surely even Hell has some standards... Shocked

mind you the Devil needs any cuts in anything she could be of some help. not that she was down here on earth..... ha ha ha
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:08 pm

Adele Carlyon wrote:Just as long as they're not arrogant enough to dare to give that she devil thatcher a state funeral!

AC
could we not just drop her off the side of a North sea ferry? as we are cutting back everything else?
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:13 pm

She'd poison the soddin fish, Stox! Haha! fish stox, get it? tongue Then when we all went to filey for cod and chips we'd all pop our clogs! We should just embalm the cow and stick her in a field to scare the crows away!
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Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:16 pm

If the woman was let in to Hell at all , she would be a prime candidate for being in charge of the Performance Management of all the apprentice devils. After all, who could be a more impressive role model for tomorrow's Satanic helpers...? Twisted Evil
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:19 pm

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I hope she burns in hell, but on second thoughts, sh*t doesn't burn!

p.s sorry for going off topic...I promise to be a good girl from now on! Twisted Evil

Whoa! Hold that bonfire! I don't want the witch cremated, I'm holding one of the early tickets to dance on her grave.
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:22 pm

Burn, bury, dance! Wink I'll be piddlin on it too! Oh aye!
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:41 pm

Adele Carlyon wrote:She'd poison the soddin fish, Stox! Haha! fish stox, get it? tongue Then when we all went to filey for cod and chips we'd all pop our clogs! We should just embalm the cow and stick her in a field to scare the crows away!

I see your point Delly. as Maggot and chips would not be very nice would it?, plus the idea of her popping up in Grimsby would not be very nice would it? Hell the last thing we need is Maggot going on tore ha ha ha

but this embalm idea sound great. as she would fit in very well with the other plastic cows in MK? ha ha ha
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:43 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:If the woman was let in to Hell at all , she would be a prime candidate for being in charge of the Performance Management of all the apprentice devils. After all, who could be a more impressive role model for tomorrow's Satanic helpers...?

Twisted Evil

I do hope these Satanic helpers are not from G4S Phil? ha ha ha
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Post by bobby on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:52 pm

As I've allways said, I don't much care if she has a State or a paupers funeral, so long as the Bitch is still breathing when they hammer the lid closed on her box.
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Post by Stox 16 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:03 pm

bobby wrote:As I've allways said, I don't much care if she has a State or a paupers funeral, so long as the Bitch is still breathing when they hammer the lid closed on her box.

Hi Bobby
Hope your well my good friend? Yes that is one of my deep fears that we will not be nailed her up while still breathing ha ha ha but what does worry me is if she get back out?



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Post by KnarkyBadger on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:03 pm

A national week of merry making when it finally shuffles off!
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:05 pm

bobby wrote:As I've allways said, I don't much care if she has a State or a paupers funeral, so long as the Bitch is still breathing when they hammer the lid closed on her box.

I like the way your mind works!!!! Twisted Evil
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KnarkyBadger wrote:A national week of merry making when it finally shuffles off!

I'm having a bloody big party! Bunting and everything!!!! Wooooo!!!!
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KnarkyBadger wrote:A national week of merry making when it finally shuffles off!

Yep I can go with that. its so nice that we all agree about the Maggot. still its been great to have a laugh about it....
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Adele Carlyon wrote:
KnarkyBadger wrote:A national week of merry making when it finally shuffles off!

I'm having a bloody big party! Bunting and everything!!!! Wooooo!!!!

We was thinking of have a big party too. whoop whistles and party hats as well... should be a great night that.
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Theres supposed to be a huge party in trafalgar sq. the day it goes. But i suspect that'll be another Met arrestathon
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KnarkyBadger wrote:Theres supposed to be a huge party in trafalgar sq. the day it goes. But i suspect that'll be another Met arrestathon

I am sure your right. but the Mrs May will be in charge of that. so she could well find that she will get the day wrong. ha ha ha

as she is not very good on days and times is she? as unfortunately her abilities never quite correspond with her desires ha ha ha oh well... I could live with one more of her grievous disappointment in her job as i dissolve into hysterics as she blames every one else ha ha ha
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Post by Adele Carlyon on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:44 pm

I think the best parties will be in the pit villages... Wink
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Adele Carlyon wrote:I think the best parties will be in the pit villages... Wink

Definitely! From Kent to Yorkshire to Wales!
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