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Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

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Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

Post by Stox 16 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:15 am

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French election 2012: Nicolas Sarkozy 'laying trap' for Francois Hollande

Given the economic state of play within Europe will a win for the Socialist candidate change the way France deals with the Euro crisis? Also the French election has become quite dirty. is this a sign of things to come from more Right wing Governments as they face there electors? here is just a small taste of the French election. does it matter who wins? or not? What will it mane for Germany and the UK?

If the Socialist candidate enters into this game of anti-Sarkozyism, he will lose the election.”
That tactic is precisely what led to the downfall of Lionel Jospin, the Socialist candidate in 2002 who was knocked out by National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen in round one by basing his campaign on an anti-Chirac ticket. Support for Jospin plummeted after he called Chirac "tired, exhausted and passive" and a man who had "lost much of his energy and drive". The comment was duly condemned as an ageist "cheap shot" by Mr Chirac.
“It happened to Segolene Royal who lost in 2007 by attacking Nicolas Sarkozy frontally. We are not in the United States. That strategy doesn’t work. »
If my memory is correct, Hollande acknowledges that Jospin lost for precisely this reason, so he is hardly likely to fall for it.

Hollande is acutely aware that his popularity is largely down to massive rejection of his main rival. One poll this month suggested 60 per cent of French intending to vote for Hollande not because of his policies but because they can no longer stand the sight of Sarkozy.
That leaves Hollande with a huge potential Achilles heel, but for Sarkozy to get the chance to strike at it he must first divorce Sarkozy the man from Sarkozysm, his political agenda. Given the mass enmity for the man, that is a tall order.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/9131858/French-election-2012-Nicolas-Sarkozy-laying-trap-for-Francois-Hollande.html
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Re: Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

Post by Ivan on Thu May 16, 2013 4:21 pm

tlttf. Typically brainless response. Why don't you tell us about how well the Conservative government in Spain is doing, with 27.2% of the workforce unemployed?

Perhaps if you didn't read 'The Daily Mail' so often you might realise that anecdotes don't replace reasoned argument.

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French elect Banker as President

Post by oftenwrong on Mon May 08, 2017 5:47 pm

Now, tell us about your good news today.
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Re: Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

Post by Ivan on Mon May 08, 2017 6:55 pm

I think the French presidential election voting system is excellent (and I'm not just saying that because the French own this site!). In the first round, you vote with your heart, on this occasion choosing from eleven candidates. In the second round, the run-off between the top two, you vote with your head. And something the Americans could learn from the French - whoever gets the most votes in the second round is the winner.

Monsieur Macron would not have been my preference in the first round of voting, but when faced with the stark choice of him or a fascist, it's a no-brainer. However, it's astonishing that over 10 million French people voted for that dangerous woman. I've just been watching a re-run of the 1970s series 'Secret Army' and find it incomprehensible that citizens of a country which was occupied and terrorised by the Nazis for four years would risk having any more of that.
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Re: Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

Post by boatlady on Tue May 09, 2017 8:19 am

she has aroused high passions - discussions on social media have been mostly acrimonious and I would not bet that we have seen the last of Marine le Pen
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Re: Does the result of the French presidential election matter to the UK?

Post by oftenwrong on Tue May 09, 2017 7:34 pm

Peut-être. The alternative might have been quite "interesting" in the Chinese sense of that word. But The Winner is the winner, so the new President of France is not likely to be very supportive of Brexit. Quite the reverse, although there are other Nations within the EU, of course.

Precisely how Theresa May proposes to overcome the interests of 27 other sovereign nations in our favour, remains to be seen.

We must wish her "Good Luck!" in that endeavour, since the alternatives are all worse.
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