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Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

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Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by Scarecrow on Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:55 pm

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Way back in 1989, the European Economic Community (EEC) placed a ban on hormone-treated U. S. meat, preventing U. S. meat products from being sold in any European nations. Animals (typically cattle) are injected with artificial and synthetic growth hormones to stimulate rapid growth. Even natural hormones like testosterone and estrogen are given in excessive amounts which causes can permanently affect the genetic make-up of these animals. The chemicals are broken down in the bloodstream and transported to all parts of the body. This includes the meat we eat and the milk we drink.

For 30 years, Americans have been hoping for low-fat steaks that taste great. That’s because for more than 30 years, Americans have been bamboozled into thinking fatty, juicy steaks will kill them. SmartMeat steaks to the rescue!

But I’m using the word steaks rather loosely here. SmartMeat looked like a steak, it was shaped like a steak, you grilled it like a steak, and it even tasted a wee bit like a steak. But as I read the package again today, I realized the manufacturer (and that’s the correct term, as you’ll see shortly) never actually labeled it as a steak. That’s because SmartMeat is a beef product … probably in the same way Cheez-Wiz is a cheese product.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:08 pm

Britons are afflicted by a totally different threat from what we eat - EGGS! Edwina Curry, when a Tory Minister, threatened eternal damnation if we ate them - but we're still here.

The current scare relating to red meat is nonsense on stilts until you read the University report again. Their problem is with PROCESSED meat such as bacon, ham and the proprietary product mentioned repeatedly in Monty Python sketches. Clearly, food impregnated with Nitrates, Nitrites and other scientific nightmares to extend its shelf-life, may actually shorten ours.

Common-sense may be employed here, as elsewhere.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by Scarecrow on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:32 pm

oftenwrong , the trouble is common-sense can be in short supply when the person is hungry and any meat product will do . I don't eat red meat , so am fortunate , then again a car may knock me down today ha ha , a percentage of the public UK / USA will always carry on eating products that they know may well cause internal harm , then again people who are on welfare / food stamps cannot afford to choose. Regarding EGGWINA Currie , the woman is still cold and calculating , reducing a young woman to tears on BBC 5 Live radio some weeks ago , saying the woman should have tightened the purse strings, the woman stated her strings were as tight as they could be , after Edwina insinuated the woman probably spent to many nights on the town .

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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Takes one to know one.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by witchfinder on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:39 am

Two little words that when put together mean so much - "Common Sense"

It is "common sense" not to interfere too much with nature, for example cattle are herbivores, but we humans decided to cut costs and improve growth and meat yields by feeding cattle with animal based foods, the result of which was Bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, otherwise known as mad cow desease.


It is also "common sense" that tells me that eating too much processed food has got to be bad, and that messing about with food is unatural, as is adding chemicals to food or rearing and keeping animals in surroundings that are not natural.

Its ok to add fertilizer to soil, because nitrogen and potash is what makes plants grow, its using science to enhance the natural process, its not unatural.

Keeping a pig inside a metal box for the whole of its life, or keeping a veal calf in a crate in the dark is not natural, its unatural and its tampering withe nature, aswell as been cruel.

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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by Shirina on Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:52 pm

Every time you turn around, some university somewhere is telling us how such and such a thing is going to kill you. If the results are so much as a fraction of a percent higher, then that thing is dangerous and it will kill you dead where you stand. Of course, the fear factor sells a lot of books and papers, generates lots of grant money for the researchers, and lots of ad revenue when people click the link.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by trevorw2539 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:59 pm

[quote="Shirina"]Every time you turn around, some university somewhere is telling us how such and such a thing is going to kill you. If the results are so much as a fraction of a percent higher, then that thing is dangerous and it will kill you dead where you stand. Of course, the fear factor sells a lot of books and papers, generates lots of grant money for the researchers, and lots of ad revenue when people click the link.[/quote

Now do I 'smell' cynicism.Smile

The truth is that tobacco kills many people, and can affect others (passive smoking). Drinking to excess kills many in this country, either the drinker, or sadly a victim. Over-eating and wrong diets can kill. Many things that we eat are good for us, until we eat them to excess.

It seems to me that if we eat a mixed and varied diet we should be reasonably fit. Well, until we meet the drunken driver, of course.

Witchfinder has it right. We sometimes 'fiddle' with nature to our detriment. Unfortunately the ever increasing world population demands more and more food. If we can produce crops that are disease resistant etc. that should be a boon. But not fiddling with nature to provide for the latest fads.

By the way, I'M writing a book on the subject. Give you details when it's finished circa 2019.Very Happy
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by tlttf on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:16 pm

Perhaps war is a natural culling process and if we had enough we wouldn't have to tamper with food?

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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:16 pm

Americans kill more Americans than cigarettes do.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by Jsmythe on Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:56 am

I guess it would depend what types of meat is available. Just because it looks fattened doesn't mean its healthy. The last couple of decades small farms have been disappearing by all sorts of ridiculous reasons. In Britain the fear factor again has forced live stock farmers to destroy their live stock,which in turn has forced them to sell their farms.

Food sources are tapering down to a narrow bottle neck-like supply which can become utmost dangerous to communities relying solely on corporate type outlets. Self reliance is our only hope in the future.

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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:39 pm

The Law of Economics cannot be broken. Small (in relative terms) British Farmers cannot compete with the Agri-Industrial installations worldwide.
The Consumer always looks first at the price in the Supermarket, and if imported meat is cheaper then that's what they'll buy.

The only way to compete is on quality. There is always a market for the best.
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Re: Does meat kill more Americans than cigarettes?

Post by starlight07 on Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:09 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Americans kill more Americans than cigarettes do.

Yeh true, the phrase which springs to mind is 'guns don't kill people, rappers people do'.
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