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If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Redflag on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:44 am

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Before May 2010 Cameron said that the N.H.S "is safe in my hands."  No it's not because he is a tory! These plans had been drawn long before he came into power he knew that he would hive off a chunk of our N.H.S to the private sector.   After the voting public turf him and his cohorts out in 2015 or earlier...      IS THERE A DIRECTORS JOB IN THE OFFING?


His next target was the Great British Bobby, our police force bringing in the private security companies to do back room work, and light policing.  After sacking the original back room staff, did he not realize that someone has to do the paperwork so that the police can do their job out on the streets, preventing crime and catching criminals?  Or is this an attempt to create:                  JOBS FOR THE BOYS

This week it's the motorways, now cars, vans and lorries are not just having to pay their road tax in the coming months and years.   There will be motor way tolls. When Ken Livingstone introduced the congestion charges for London the conservatives went for blood, however now we are just expected to smile sweetly and say nothing of these charges that are to be introduced by the tories!   !nn! !nn! If you use these private motor ways with the price of petrol and diesel rising the only people that will be able to afford to travel by these roads will be the top 1% of the UK.     In other words the filthy rich financial sector, is this what he intended to make sure that he put road travel out of the reach of the other  99% of the UK public?   Is this another way of putting motorway tailbacks so that him and his cohorts can sail up and down the motorways without having to deal with us (plebs) getting in their way? 

                                                                           WHAT IS THE KICKBACK FOR THIS?


When the Education Minister (Mr Gove) decided to bring in Academy and Free Schools as his pet project there was a promise of "No Council Interference" until some of the Academies failed and then the Councils where told clear up his mess.   Now another round of casualties have been racked up with the tory party practice of elitist snobbery, students that are not seen to perform to the expected targets  are been shipped out to f.e. Colleges to complete their studies. 

                                       PREPARING  FUTURE  GENERATION AS UP AND COMING TORY VOTERS
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Ivan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:22 pm

oftenwrong. The problem with posting links to the 'Financial Times' website is that most of us won't be able to read them because there is a paywall. If you are a subscriber maybe you could, from time to time, post a few lines from any articles which you think would be of interest to other members? Thanks.

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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:23 pm

Point taken, but I do not in fact subscribe to any newspaper online.
At the time I located that quote (from MSN Bing) on the internet, the article was freely available.  (I checked the link twice).  Now less than 24 hours later there are the usual invocations to part with a chunk of cash to continue.  As a devout cheapskate, I shall not be taking up the kind offer, though I understand perfectly that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

My sincere apologies to anyone else also rather confused by the process.
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Post by boatlady on Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:20 am

Shame, that - looks as if it would have been an interesting article
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:05 pm

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Post by Ivan on Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:03 pm

This railway was making money for the taxpayer instead of for Tory cronies and donors! Evil or Very Mad


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Post by boatlady on Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:06 am

It's shocking the way they're selling off everything - at this stage, when it seems possible they won't get back into government it looks just like looting to be honest - just hope the next government can put things right
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Post by astradt1 on Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:17 pm

Why has this government decided to sell its share in Eurostar when the French and Belgian governments are keeping their share?
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:00 pm

Tory Party dogma, astradt1, not rocket science or even Economics. If you don't control it, why are you doing it?
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Post by Ivan on Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:27 pm

The Met Office and Ordnance Survey are in the Tories' sights for privatisation - and wait for it, so is the Lake District:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/11454983/The-Lake-District-should-it-be-sold-off-to-the-highest-bidder.html

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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:29 pm

LAND!! They're not making it anymore.
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Post by Mel on Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:03 pm

It'sthe NHS that condernes me.

In very simple terms, the Tories have many Private Health Firms donating them huge sums. This explains everything, does it not?
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Post by boatlady on Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:29 pm

The situation of the NHS is very worrying - hopefully, the next government will have both the will and the ability to repair the significant damage done by the Tories
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by stuart torr on Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:59 pm

boatlady according to the latest figures which must change dramatically, the next government will be a third term of tory shite. Sad Sad Sad
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Post by Phillip J H on Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:56 pm

@Stu

Not so! Very Happy
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Post by stuart torr on Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:03 pm

We will see Phil.
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Post by stuart torr on Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:20 pm

Actually apologies to everybody, it just seems longer, only their second term, another red faced stu again. Embarassed
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Post by Ivan on Thu May 07, 2015 9:53 am

"The sale of assets is common with individuals and states when they run into financial difficulties. First, all the Georgian silver goes, and then all that nice furniture that used to be in the saloon. Then the Canalettos go." (Harold Macmillan, 8 November 1985)


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Post by stuart torr on Thu May 07, 2015 11:20 am

Well they always say that you sell the family silver first do they not?
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We can delete it for you wholesale

Post by oftenwrong on Tue May 26, 2015 10:18 pm

stuart torr wrote:.... the next government will be a third term of tory shite. Sad Sad Sad

But whiter than white: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/expenses-and-sex-scandal-deleted-from-mps-wikipedia-pages-by-computers-inside-parliament/ar-BBkf1kn
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Post by stuart torr on Tue May 26, 2015 11:01 pm

Sounds about right OW, some even had there chauffeur to drive them from home to where they were having a meal to help win the election,then claimed that on expenses.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed May 27, 2015 3:47 pm

stuart torr wrote:boatlady according to the latest figures which must change dramatically, the next government will be a third term of tory shite. Sad Sad Sad

...and , thereafter..

" Actually apologies to everybody, it just seems longer, only their second term, another red faced stu again. "


An interesting prediction. Heaven forbid that anyone else should have had the temerity to suggest likewise in the light of the overwhelming contrary data...   Very Happy
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed May 27, 2015 5:39 pm

"Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?"
Alexander Pope's "Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot" of January 1735.

(updated by William Rees-Mogg, as editor of The Times newspaper, used the "on a wheel" version of the quotation as the heading (set in capital letters) for an editorial on 1 July 1967 about the "Redlands" court case, which had resulted in prison sentences for Rolling Stones members Keith Richards and Mick Jagger.)

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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed May 27, 2015 8:21 pm

I suppose that butterflies which choose to float by will always risk that fate, however pointless it may be... Shocked
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Post by stuart torr on Wed May 27, 2015 8:50 pm

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Post by Ivan on Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:23 am

How far does Cameron want to shrink the state? Ask Barnet’s binmen

From an article by Aditya Chakrabortty:-

Councils have been outsourcing for decades, which is why your local traffic warden is usually tramping the streets on behalf of a private firm. But that isn’t enough for Tory-run Barnet – it is on a mission to make itself disappear. It has begun a programme to farm out so many of its services that the local trade union calculates staff will shrink from 3,200 in September 2012 to just 332.

Everything from registering births to mowing the local cemeteries has either already been outsourced or is about to about be. And most of the key tasks have been given to the FTSE giant Capita. Not just for a few months or a couple of years, Capita will run these services for at least 10 years.

An arm of Britain’s local government has in effect agreed to a friendly takeover by a £7bn multinational. Whoever Barnet residents vote for in local elections, they will always get Capita. Whenever they phone or email or visit, they will speak to a Capita employee. The FTSE giant will face no competition for the next decade; nor will it endure the same scrutiny as democratic government, as previously public information is veiled under “commercial sensitivity”.

One man tells me about phoning his local library to see if a children’s book was in stock. The call was routed to a Capita call centre in Coventry, where staff spent ages unable to help before connecting him back to the librarians just down the road. By his calculations, for that wasted call Capita would charge Barnet £8. Outsourcing is full of these invented costs, which is how the privateers make their billions.


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The person who used to do that is no longer employed here, Sorry!

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:06 pm

Ivan wrote:How far does Cameron want to shrink the state? Ask Barnet’s binmen

From an article by Aditya Chakrabortty:-

....Everything [in Barnet] from registering births to mowing the local cemeteries has either already been outsourced or is about to about be. And most of the key tasks have been given to the FTSE giant Capita....  Capita will run these services for at least 10 years....

When British Rail was privatised 20 years ago, the new "management" of South West Trains began by sacking any driver with a history of Trade Union activity.  There were many, many subsequent train-cancellations and it was four years before SWT had an adequate staff by training new drivers.

The problem with any kind of out-sourcing is that skills and experience are lost forever within the original organisation.  Something likely to come back and bite administrators on the bum when they least welcome it.
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Post by Ivan on Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:16 pm

Flog every mountain,
Sell every stream,
Follow every rainbow,
'Til you privatise your dream.


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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:38 pm

Perhaps an appropriate moment to welcome the return to bloggery of one Philip "Judas" Hornby, alleged grand fromage of       The 'Don't Vote' Alliance.

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Post by boatlady on Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:42 am

lol! lol! lol!
Naughty!

But I do join with you in welcoming the return of the Pease Pottage society
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Post by Ivan on Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:33 pm

Public assets are being transferred to the Tories' friends hand over fist - the robbing of British people on a breathtaking scale........ No


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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:30 pm

But we know they can be trusted with the Economy - that's why they were elected.

Wasn't it?
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Post by Ivan on Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:31 pm

"Everything is better in private hands" is a well-worn mantra of the Tories. Better for them maybe, but not for the rest of us.


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Post by Ivan on Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:06 pm

Tories accused of shortchanging public as £26bn privatisation haul revealed

The government has been accused of shortchanging the taxpayer by “selling the family silver at a record pace” after new analysis showed a record £26.4bn raised last year through privatisation.

A final 30% state holding in Royal Mail, 11bn shares in Lloyds Bank and a stake in Eurostar were among the assets sold by ministers in a bid to pay down debt and balance the books.

The TUC general secretary, Frances O’Grady, said the privatisations were all about politics and nothing to do with economic security. “Eurostar and Royal Mail were both sold for well under value,” she said. “Flogging them off for short-term political gain is shortchanging taxpayers.”


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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:01 pm

http://www.twinfm.com/article.php?artid=2745

Welsh taxpayers "lose tens of millions" from land sales.

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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:26 pm

Gideon Osborne has called off the proposed sale back to the public of the shares in Lloyds Bank plc which the public had acquired in 2008, due to high volatility of the Stock Market just now.

Something which everyone with "savings" earning 0.1% interest will understand perfectly.
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:51 am

"Sheffield Forgemasters" are in the news again:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/industry-titans-offer-%c2%a330m-forgemasters-aid/ar-BBoQIVM?li=BBoPMmp

But thankfully we can trust the Tories with the British Economy.
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