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Post by Greatest I am on Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:40 pm

Can God love?

We are told that the mythical bible God is love or the epitome of love.

Archetypal Jesus said that we would know his people by the love, deeds and actions they showed others.

Jesus gave us examples of the deeds and works. Feed the poor, love all our neighbours, do not sin and many others.

Love then, seems to Jesus, to be something that must be shown by deeds, actions and works to be alive and true love. Love, like faith, without works is dead. Both St. James and Jesus agree on this.

It follows then that if God is not doing something to show this love then the love for man expressed in scriptures is wrong and God cannot love.

You are in the image of God. When you love someone you show them that love by works and deeds. This is how the recipient of that love knows it is there and that allows for reciprocity.  You will agree that without reciprocity, true love cannot exist between two individuals. We must do things for each other for true love to exist.

Imagine what those you love would think if you never did anything to express your love. Imagine what you would think of the love of others towards you if they never did anything to show they loved you.  See what I mean. Love always must have deeds to be real and true and reciprocity must be at play.

Love then has no choice but to be expressed if it is true love.

We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Have you seen God express his love for us lately?

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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:31 pm

Greeting, God-botherer.

What do you think about Government Ministers who get caught with their fingers in the till?
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:00 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Greeting, God-botherer.

What do you think about Government Ministers who get caught with their fingers in the till?

Off with their heads and feed them to the pigs.

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:15 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Can God love?

YHVH Elohim (eternal LORD God) cannot not love.
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:10 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Can God love?

YHVH Elohim (eternal LORD God) cannot not love.

Speculation.
If he cannot not love then who did he love when he was all alone?
Self-love is self-glorification is it not?

Does love not need to be expressed?

Do you express your love by deeds to those you love?
Does God?

If so, where?

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Post by Shirina on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:37 pm

One thing is for sure: God seems to have a monopoly on hate.

He hates sin.
He hates people who don't worship him.
He hates children who tease balding men.
He hates homosexuals.
He hates adulterers.
He hates children who rebel against their parents.
He hates people who wear blended fabrics.
He hates shellfish.
He hates people who mistreat their slaves.
He hates people who lie about how much they donated to the church.
He hates witches.
He hates astrologers and fortune tellers.
He hates any man who refuses to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.
He hates prostitutes - especially the daughters of priests who become prostitutes.
He hates blasphemy.
He hates people who show contempt for a judge or priest.
He hates betrothed virgins who are seduced in the city and does not cry for help.
He hates people who remarry - especially females. This includes widows.
He hates people who commit "unnatural" sex acts.

I mean ... phew! Look at all the hate! In fact, it would appear that all of God's miracles involved killing someone - and in many cases, lots of someones. No wonder the Bible desperately needed a New Testament. I'd rather let a child watch all of the Friday the 13th movies than read the Bible. There is far less violence in slasher movies.




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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:50 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Can God love?
RockOnBrother wrote:
YHVH Elohim (eternal LORD God) cannot not love.
Greatest I am wrote:
Speculation.

Fact. As to your questions, since I wasn’t there, I don’t know.
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:20 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Self-love is self-glorification is it not?

As to this question…


“You shall not hate your fellow countryman in your heart; you may surely reprove your neighbor, but shall not incur sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:17-18).

“When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34).

… one must first love oneself before one can (a) love one’s neighbor as oneself and (b) love the stranger as oneself.
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Post by bobby on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:26 pm

Rockonbrother wrote: Fact. As to your questions, since I wasn’t there, I don’t know.

You weren't at My Lai either, yet had a lot to say about it, explain?
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:32 pm

Shirina wrote:One thing is for sure: God seems to have a monopoly on hate.

He hates sin.
He hates people who don't worship him.
He hates children who tease balding men.
He hates homosexuals.
He hates adulterers.
He hates children who rebel against their parents.
He hates people who wear blended fabrics.
He hates shellfish.
He hates people who mistreat their slaves.
He hates people who lie about how much they donated to the church.
He hates witches.
He hates astrologers and fortune tellers.
He hates any man who refuses to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.
He hates prostitutes - especially the daughters of priests who become prostitutes.
He hates blasphemy.
He hates people who show contempt for a judge or priest.
He hates betrothed virgins who are seduced in the city and does not cry for help.
He hates people who remarry - especially females. This includes widows.
He hates people who commit "unnatural" sex acts.

I mean ... phew! Look at all the hate! In fact, it would appear that all of God's miracles involved killing someone - and in many cases, lots of someones. No wonder the Bible desperately needed a New Testament. I'd rather let a child watch all of the Friday the 13th movies than read the Bible. There is far less violence in slasher movies.


Yes. The bible certainly shows a God of wrath and hate more than a God of love.

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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:35 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Can God love?
RockOnBrother wrote:
YHVH Elohim (eternal LORD God) cannot not love.
Greatest I am wrote:
Speculation.

Fact. As to your questions, since I wasn’t there, I don’t know.

Fact!

You know this how if not hear say or book say?

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Post by Adele Carlyon on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:51 pm

Shirina wrote:One thing is for sure: God seems to have a monopoly on hate.

He hates sin.
He hates people who don't worship him.
He hates children who tease balding men.
He hates homosexuals.
He hates adulterers.
He hates children who rebel against their parents.
He hates people who wear blended fabrics.
He hates shellfish.
He hates people who mistreat their slaves.
He hates people who lie about how much they donated to the church.
He hates witches.
He hates astrologers and fortune tellers.
He hates any man who refuses to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.
He hates prostitutes - especially the daughters of priests who become prostitutes.
He hates blasphemy.
He hates people who show contempt for a judge or priest.
He hates betrothed virgins who are seduced in the city and does not cry for help.
He hates people who remarry - especially females. This includes widows.
He hates people who commit "unnatural" sex acts.

I mean ... phew! Look at all the hate! In fact, it would appear that all of God's miracles involved killing someone - and in many cases, lots of someones. No wonder the Bible desperately needed a New Testament. I'd rather let a child watch all of the Friday the 13th movies than read the Bible. There is far less violence in slasher movies.




lol I love this post Shirina! Smile You're spot on girl! I think the best gospel was left out of the big red joke book, I think it was written by a bunch called the "gnostics"? Razz
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:52 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
The bible certainly shows a God of wrath and hate more than a God of love.

From the Greek Bible:


“The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love” (1 John 4:Cool.
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:57 pm

Adele Carlyon wrote:
lol I love this post Shirina! Smile You're spot on girl! I think the best gospel was left out of the big red joke book, I think it was written by a bunch called the "gnostics"? Razz [/quote]

This Gnostic Christian agrees with you.

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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:00 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
The bible certainly shows a God of wrath and hate more than a God of love.

From the Greek Bible:


“The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love” (1 John 4:Cool.

Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7SPJllNoc

Love is as love does and God does not do.
A little less thumping and more thinking is all you need do to know the truth of it.

Then again, thinking does not seem so far to be your forte.

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:01 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
YHVH Elohim (eternal LORD God) cannot not love.
Greatest I am wrote:
Speculation.
RockOnBrother wrote:
Fact.
Greatest I am wrote:
Fact!

You know this how if not hear say or book say?

I know this from God’s Word:


“… God is love” (1 John 4:Cool.
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:10 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:[

You know this how if not hear say or book say?

I know this from God’s Word:


“… God is love” (1 John 4:Cool.
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I guess you missed what the word of God truly is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xH93PSZ6fQ

Did you miss the post just above on your simplistic God is love B S.

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Post by Phil Hornby on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:16 pm

Coming next week : Why are bananas never straight,,,?
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:19 pm


I don’t seek YHNH Eloim through YouTube. Insofar as Tina is concerned, I’d much rather hear her sing “Change is Gonna Come” accompanied by Robert Cray.
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:26 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
You know this how if not hear say or book say?
RockOnBrother wrote:
I know this from God’s Word:

“… God is love” (1 John 4:8 ).
Greatest I am wrote:
I guess you missed what the word of God truly is.

Nope.

Greatest I am wrote:
… your simplistic God…

I own no “simplistic God.”


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Post by Adele Carlyon on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:28 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:Coming next week : Why are bananas never straight,,,?

Coz they're little god rebels? Razz
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Post by Greatest I am on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:06 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:

I don’t seek YHNH Eloim through YouTube. Insofar as Tina is concerned, I’d much rather hear her sing “Change is Gonna Come” accompanied by Robert Cray.

Done here thanks.

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:18 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
I don’t seek YHNH Eloim through YouTube. Insofar as Tina is concerned, I’d much rather hear her sing “Change is Gonna Come” accompanied by Robert Cray.
Greatest I am wrote:
Done here thanks.

No thanks necessary.
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:07 pm

.... for thine is the Kingdom
the power and the Glory
argument for ever
for ever and ever....

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Post by polyglide on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:30 pm

I think Shirina has a problem with love.

If you read the bible you have to do so in accordance with the times it was written and understand that it was written for those with a humble heart and not the arrogant.

God did not write the bible, man did, God inspired man to do so but man being man he has obviously been over keen in some instances to emphasise a point and expess it in terms that make the point clear and not to be taken literally [ words and their meaning can change can they not Sherina ? or just when it suits]

I have never seen a post so agnostic as that of Sherina who has obviously no concern for those who get great comfort from the bible.
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Post by Greatest I am on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:56 pm

polyglide wrote:I think Shirina has a problem with love.

If you read the bible you have to do so in accordance with the times it was written and understand that it was written for those with a humble heart and not the arrogant.

God did not write the bible, man did, God inspired man to do so but man being man he has obviously been over keen in some instances to emphasise a point and expess it in terms that make the point clear and not to be taken literally [ words and their meaning can change can they not Sherina ? or just when it suits]

I have never seen a post so agnostic as that of Sherina who has obviously no concern for those who get great comfort from the bible.

Nothing like being comforted by reading of a genocidal God that even has his own son needlessly murdered. Yep. That warms the heart.

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related

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Post by Shirina on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:03 pm

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

What kind of God would offer up a blood sacrifice to himself?
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Post by Shirina on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:27 pm

I think Shirina has a problem with love.
Not all love is created equal. Some love is destructive.

Christianity would have our relationship with God be identical - and I do mean identical - to that of a battered wife's relationship with her abusive husband. Think about it.

First, we have a God who tries to convince us that we have no value at all without him. We are pond scum, the filthiest, most vile, undeserving, evil creatures not even worthy of drawing our next breath ... unless you accept God and all of his rules and regulations. Only through God do we have value as living, breathing, sentient creatures. The first step of any abusive relationship is to strip away the dignity of the victim. Note, I said dignity, not arrogance. Pride is not always a bad thing, for that is what gives us confidence. Without confidence, we become doormats for anyone to walk all over. And that's what God does; he tries to make us useless without him.

Second comes the big promises. "Yes, I love you. Yes, you will have your heart's desire. Yes, I will set you up in a penthouse." Of course, in this case, the penthouse is heaven. The catch is that you have to do what I want at all times, put me first - even above your own family.

The third step is when the abusive husband - or God, in this case - makes you utterly dependent upon him for everything.

And, for the fourth step, comes the abuse. Love me or die. Threats and coercion. If you do not love me, if you try to strike off on your own, if you abandon me for any reason, I will hunt you down and kill you. Or, in God's case, send you to burn in hell for all eternity. There's nothing more malleable and loyal than a person who truly believes she is a pathetic wretch being constantly threatened by the being she is so dependent upon for any meaning in her life.

That's not love. That is megalomania. Whoever invented the concept of Christianity must have studied the multitudes of women who are beaten, broken, and whittled down by abusive husbands and yet will defend that husband with her dying breath. "Maybe I deserved those beatings."

Then the final step comes into play, the step that has the woman - or the believer - constantly apologizing for everything that might bring the slightest frown to her husband's - or God's - face. Even if they are things she cannot control, even if they are not truly her fault, she must apologize anyway and beg for forgiveness.

No thanks. If I were to believe in a God, it would not be one that would require such a dysfunctional relationship.
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Post by sickchip on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:35 pm

God, if you love me, I'm sorry but I don't love you. I don't think our relationship can go anywhere. Listen - don't be upset, it's not You it's me.
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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:03 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit.

No it wasn’t. God’s Word describes God’s plan from the beginning.


“And God said, ‘Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.’ So God created man in his own image; in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them” (Genesis 1:26-27).

God’s plan from the beginning:

  1. To make and create ha adama in his image;
  2. To make ha adama after his likeness;
  3. To let ha adama have dominion over the fish of the sea;
  4. To let ha adama have dominion over the birds of the sky;
  5. To let ha adama have dominion over the cattle;
  6. To let ha adama have dominion over all the earth;
  7. To let ha adama have dominion over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth;
  8. To create ha adama as male and female.


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This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

Accurate quote, erroneous conclusion. The phrase “atonement for sin” would be absent from the world’s languages had ha adama chosen to follow good (YHVH Elohim, Author, Creator, Owner, and Sovereign of all that is, was, and ever will be) rather than evil (Satanis). Ha adama chose the latter, thus necessitating redemption, “redeeming”, “re-deeming.” The prefix “re” means “do it again”; from the beginning, God deemed ha adama in his image after his likeness.

Greatest I am wrote:
If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

YHVH Elohim, translated for meaning, is the eternal immeasurable, incomprehensible power by which all existence was/is/will be (eternal knows no temporal boundaries) explodes into existence; LORD God (traditional English rendering of YHVH Elohim) is by definition immeasurable and incomprehensible in his power, presence, and knowledge.

My direct answer to the question posed: I don’t know.

There is much I don’t know of YHVH Elohim, eternal incomprehensible power (incomprehensible equals “I don’t know”) that pre-exists existence. God is omniscient, omnipotent, eternal/ omnipresent (everywhen and everywhere); it is not inconceivable that he knows that which I don’t know.

The hubris of man caused the unsinkable Titanic to sink and a DC-10 lifting off from O’Hare circa 1979 to flip over and crash on the tarmac. Jesus teaches “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” James teaches us to humble ourselves in the sight of the Lord. Man absent man’s hubris is man willing to accept that, insofar as the Author Creator, Owner, and Sovereign of all existence is concerned, it’s quite appropriate to humble oneself and admit that one doesn’t know.

Greatest I am wrote:
The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

The cornerstone of Christianity is each individual choosing to follow Jesus the Christ’s teachings.

Greatest I am wrote:
One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

Women and men are unequal.
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Post by Greatest I am on Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:40 pm

Shirina wrote:
What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

What kind of God would offer up a blood sacrifice to himself?

I think that sickchip may have answered you with his avatar.

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Post by Greatest I am on Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:46 pm

sickchip wrote:God, if you love me, I'm sorry but I don't love you. I don't think our relationship can go anywhere. Listen - don't be upset, it's not You it's me.

What is it about God and his relationship with his sheeople that you do not love?

God seems to enjoy it.

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Women and men are unequal.
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Wow. Something we agree on.

Women are definitely superior to men.

They would never institutionalize this type of injustice.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:25 pm


I don’t go to “flickr”; accordingly, if there is something on “flickr” you wish to bring to my attention, you will need to post it here directly.

Women are definitely superior to men in a multitude of areas.
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Post by Greatest I am on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:52 pm

RockOnBrother wrote:
I don’t go to “flickr”; accordingly, if there is something on “flickr” you wish to bring to my attention, you will need to post it here directly.

Women are definitely superior to men in a multitude of areas.

This system will not accept what I want to show.

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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:59 pm

Historians who chronicle the origin of Man, are apparently down-grading the significance of the term "Hunter-Gatherer". It seems that there was no great purpose to that activity, merely that the women kicked 'em out of the cave for long enough to get some real work done.
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Re: Can God love? (Part 1)

Post by polyglide on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:15 pm

I have no idea if Sarina has children of her own but I very much doubt it.

A parent does not leave a child to find it's own way in life, it sets out that which it feels is right for the best possible future and explains why etc;

Those who believe in God feel exactly the same, that God set out the principles, if followed, would result in a perfect and happy life for mankind and had man done so, that would have been the result.

As many children fail to take notice of their parents so has mankind decided to go his own way and you can see the results throughout the world.

No matter how badly a child behaves the vast majority of parents still love their children and the same goes for God, who has offered his son as a means of forgiving our sins showing how much love he has for mankind.

There is always one missing point in nearly every debate regarding God and that is the Devil.

People fail to note that there is a battle going on between the Devil and God, the former having been given time and every oppotunity to turn people against God by any means he can think of and just as many children are corrupted by evil people the Devil is corrupting the minds of the gullible
people and offering false religions and false prophets etc;

If you are going to consider the love of God then you must take into account that which the Devil is being allowed to do, he says he can turn all man against God and from many of the posts he is making a good attempt. it's a good job not all are so gullible.
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Re: Can God love? (Part 1)

Post by Greatest I am on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:54 pm

polyglide wrote: it's a good job not all are so gullible.

Thius from one who is gullible enough to believe in fantasy, miracles and magic, talking animals and water than moves on command.

Do you even know what the word gullible means?

As to your trying to profit from God having his son murdered when there was absolutely no need for it, that is quite immoral.

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspWh9g3hU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0RFxXrYzg&feature=related

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