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Roman Catholic bishop "read the riot act", criminally charged with sheltering an abusive clergyman

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Roman Catholic bishop "read the riot act", criminally charged with sheltering an abusive clergyman

Post by ROB on Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:07 am

The Government of the Sovereign State of Missouri is not a theocracy; it's a government under God.
 
Kansas City (Missouri) bishop charged with not alerting police on child porn
Highest-ranking US Catholic official charged in church's long-running sex abuse scandal
 
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updated 2 hours 38 minutes ago 2011-10-14T22:50:51

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A bishop has become the highest-ranking U.S. Catholic official indicted on a charge of failing to protect children after he and his diocese waited five months to tell police about hundreds of images of child pornography discovered on a priest's computer, officials said Friday.
 
Bishop Robert Finn, the first U.S. bishop criminally charged with sheltering an abusive clergyman, and the Kansas City-St. Joseph Catholic Diocese have pleaded not guilty on one count each of failing to report suspected child abuse.
 
Prosecutor Jean Peters Baker said Finn and the diocese were required under state law to report the discovery to police because the images gave them reason to believe a child had been abused.
 
"... my office will pursue this case vigorously," Baker said. "I want to ensure there are no future failures to report resulting in other unsuspecting victims."
 
The indictment... says the bishop failed to report suspicions against the priest from Dec. 16, 2010, when the photos were discovered, to May 11, 2011, when the diocese turned them over to police.
 
Full story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44907461/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
 
"That to secure these [Creator-endowed unalienable] rights [including the right of every child to be free of sexual abuse by clergy], Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... "
Declaration of Independence, published 4 July 1776, Philadelphia, Sovereign Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


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Post by GreatNPowerfulOz on Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:07 am

The Declaration of Independence...though powerful and meaningful in its own right...has absolutely no relevance regarding our legal rights. The Constitution defines the role of government and it's powers and limitations...not the D of I. The D of I was a rhetorical work written to garner favor from possible European allies.
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Post by ROB on Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:22 am

GreatNPowerfulOz wrote:
The Declaration of Independence...though powerful and meaningful in its own right...has absolutely no relevance regarding our legal rights.
 
Erroneous.
GreatNPowerfulOz wrote:
The Constitution defines the role of government and it's powers and limitations
 
Incomplete, thus erroneous..
GreatNPowerfulOz wrote:
not the D of I.
 
Erroneous.
GreatNPowerfulOz wrote:
The D of I was a rhetorical work written to garner favor from possible European allies.
 
Erroneous.

If you “ask nice”, Ill tell you why your offering is erroneous. Until then (if indeed, ever), “y’all come back now, y’heah?”
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Post by ROB on Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:40 pm


So far, to the best of my knowledge, no “official” response from the pope.

And yes, Martha, the Declaration of Independence, the foundational document upon which the very existence of the United States (and thus Missouri) is legally dependent and within which the United States Constitution and the constitutions of the several states (including Missouri) are firmly rooted and deeply anchored, is alive in well in Missouri.
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Post by dimsum on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:28 pm

It does not asurprise me about the Catholic Church because they turned their heads and let their peers commit csexual crimes without stepping in and stopping it. To this day they are hiding it.
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Post by ROB on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:54 am


Dimsum,

I agree on all counts. The greatest tragedy is that the “little people”, the Roman Catholic laity, nuns, and some “lower-level priests/fathers”, primarily, do so much good. Check out several of the finest institutions of higher learning and top-notch hospitals in the United States.
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:19 am

Inevitably there are power-seekers within any organisation of humans, whose motivation is not necessarily the same as their foot-soldiers.
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Post by stuart torr on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:06 pm

Are any roman catholics on this thread totally lost in their religion or what? because even the last pope is being hidden in the vatican so that he does not have to face criminal charges of child abuse along with preists nuns etc etc . what has the vatican done for the poor mites who have been abused by these so called holy people, sweet fa. except try and buy their silence and say it never happened. Catholic child abusers i've passed better out of my arse.
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Post by Dr Sheldon Cooper PhD on Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:03 pm

stu wrote:Are any roman catholics on this thread totally lost in their religion or what? because even the last pope is being hidden in the vatican so that he does not have to face criminal charges of child abuse along with preists nuns etc etc . what has the vatican done for the poor mites who have been abused by these so called holy people, sweet fa. except try and buy their silence and say it never happened. Catholic child abusers i've passed better out of my arse.
Perhaps we could ask Shirina in her role as a moderator to poll the theists on here for their reaction to this shameful (and criminal?) attempt of this "holy and pious" man to avoid justice?
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Post by polyglide on Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:06 am

In every aspect of life you will find those intent on using their position for their own purpose.

Religion is only one where those intent on evil reside.

It is almost impossible to tell the good from the evil until evidence to substanciate one from the other becomes available.

One of the main problems is that those who should be seeking out the evil are themselves evil, in many instances.

If anyone has a reasonable answer to the problem I would be pleased to hear it.
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Post by Dan Fante on Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:12 am

I think it particularly riles people when it's a priest or whatever because, apart from the obvious breach of trust, they make moral judgements and like to inform other people about what they should be doing to lead a better life. So you have the double whammy of the crime itself and the hypocrisy of the person committing it. A bit like when politicians get caught out.
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Post by polyglide on Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:19 am

Yep.
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Post by stuart torr on Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:29 am

So true, it is only the roman catholic's that are really being hurt by all this bad publicity,and the bad things like abuse of young children that has been bought to light. Not only did the vatican think they could get away with it all by buying these poor young children off out of their billions stashed away, they have hidden the pope in charge of it so he does not face criminal charges giving them time to destroy the evidence also. Then we have to ask ourselves, does this kind of thing go on/off in other religions too? if so why have they not been checked by the authorities? Has anyone seen their local churches raided by the police lately? I bet the answer to that one is a big resounding NO.Sad Sad 


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Post by Bellatori on Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:56 pm

As Robert Heinlein said... (for shaman read vicar, priest, cardinal, pope etc...)

"The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man. But it is a lovely work if you can stomach it. "

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Post by stuart torr on Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:42 pm

Bellatori my dear fellow man, what words you are speaking of a holy man,whom I through these lovely rose tinted glasses see purely as a fellow preacher,go in peace my man
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Post by Bellatori on Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:00 pm

stu wrote:Bellatori my dear fellow man, what words you are speaking of a holy man,whom I through these lovely rose tinted glasses see purely as a fellow preacher,go in peace my man
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Post by stuart torr on Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:54 pm

Bellatori my dear man, I take it that you found my words leaving you speachless. Many do I'm afraid, but I am only here to give you warning of the second coming, as it can leave some ladies exhausted. peace be with you.Laughing 
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