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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:56 pm

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Depressing, isn't it? All the miserable gits can come up with is oppression of the poor and fear of the disadvantaged. Never mind, here's something that can make us all feel better about the human race - even if it does have to include Cameron and Company .........

http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity
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Post by Redflag on Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:10 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:Mark Hoban - so what?

Just one more piece of shit amongst a whole barrow load of it...      Crying or Very sad

So what your saying PH is that Tory TURDS are PLAYING THE SYSTEM but have the bare faced cheek to accuse the rest of the UK of that crime.

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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:00 pm

Londoners are finding it impossible to buy any home costing less than six years salary, and Estate Agents blame the "right-to-buy" for making it equally difficult to find a rented property. It's only taken them thirty-three years to reach that conclusion. ( The Housing Act came into force on 3 October 1980.)

Thatcher's "Big Bang" of 1986 freed the banking industry to lend ever-increasing sums secured on Property - which explains why they will always prefer house-prices to remain high. These things don't happen by chance.

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Post by Redflag on Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:20 pm


Osborne knew what would happen with his Help to Buy OW, for the very reason what is happening to the price of houses at the moment, he wants all the SCRUFF out of Landon (Osbornes name for the real people of the UK)   Then quite a lot of Tory MPs have rental homes Huhne has around 24 in his Portfolio.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:28 pm

" Huhne has around 24 in his Portfolio"  

Blimey ! That's almost as many driving points as he got others to take for him... 

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Post by Redflag on Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:55 am

Phil Hornby wrote:" Huhne has around 24 in his Portfolio"  

Blimey ! That's almost as many driving points as he got others to take for him... 

 Very Happy


There are other Tory MPs PH that have there ill gotten gains in buy to rent homes, why do you think the Tories are doing nothing about Social housing they do not want to upset there MPs from making a killing off the back of the homeless.
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Post by Ivan on Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:26 pm

The Tory (and UKIP) formula for policy-making:-

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Post by boatlady on Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:22 pm

lol! lol! lol! 
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Post by Ivan on Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:38 am

Happy Hallowe'en! This was the result when someone on Twitter was challenged to carve a pumpkin with "the scariest thing you can think of"  Twisted Evil

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Post by stuart torr on Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:44 am

I have come to expect one Ivan, so any better result is a bonus for myself i'm afraid.
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Post by boatlady on Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:27 pm

Well, go you and join your local Labour Party - or the Greens, Monster Raving Loony Party Lib Dems or even UKIP if that's where your sympathies lie - go down fighting if you must go down

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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:44 pm

The Tory Party can only achieve a majority next May if sufficient numbers of working-class people vote for them. There aren't nearly enough Toffs to do that on their own, for their own.
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Post by stuart torr on Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:02 pm

Well I will not be voting Tory that is for sure, I have only ever voted for labour.
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Post by Redflag on Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:08 pm

Me too Stuart it was not until the Tories got into power in 2010 that made me join the Labour party so I am a Proud Labour card carrying LEFTY, The reason for joining was I had a good idea of what was coming with the Tories and as you know I was spot on.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:45 pm

The Rochester by-election may clear the air if the (former-Tory) named Mr. Reckless (sic) becomes the second UKIP to have a seat in the Commons.

Cameron antics afterwards to put even more distance between Conservatives and the political middle-ground, should be enough to frighten away a lot more voters.
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Post by stuart torr on Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:18 pm

Where to though OW? that is what we have to worry about, will it be to the UKIP?
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Post by Ivan on Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:29 pm

Richard Benyon has been the Tory MP for Newbury since 2005. With a personal wealth estimated at £110 million, he is the richest member of the House of Commons and owns at least 93 properties. In 2010, 33,057 people were thick enough to vote for him; read how this sick bastard treats his tenants:-

The story of the millionaire Tory MP and the tenants facing homelessness

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/10/millionaire-tory-mp-tenants-estate-flats-richard-benyon

How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? That's the whole art of Tory politics.” (Aneurin Bevan) No
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:16 pm

A Channel 4 TV program on Monday 10th.November examined the increasing gap between poor and rich. The conclusion was that the gap will inevitably accelerate, since the children of the Advantaged will increase that advantage exponentially over the children of the working class who are effectively never going to enjoy those privileges conferred by Private education, a stable homelife and similar friends for company.
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Post by stuart torr on Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:32 am

Very true OW, unless you just happen to have the brains to get out of secondary school and go to what was called a high school when I was taking my exams etc and I was fortunate then until this virus hit my brains and left them scarred.
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Post by Redflag on Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:49 am

I think all on CE are a wee bit depressed about the outcome of the 2015 general election, I seen this in Mondays Daily Mirror letters page so to cheer you all up I will copy it below under the heading of ;

NATION SO PROUD TO HONOUR ITS HEROES

I would like Mr Cameron to know that seeing him standing at the Centotaph on Sunday made me feel sick. Rather than cherish thius great nation of ours, he appears to want to systematically take apart and destroy everything that our poor soliers fought and died for. Instead of bowing huis head on Sunday he should have hung his head in shame.

I have been a Tory voter all my life "But Never Again", the way in which this gov't rides roughshod over the values and proud history of the Brittish people is quite simply beneath contempt.
Terry Lawes Whiteley Hants

I hope this cheers you all up its not just Ed Mileband that has problems Scamer has just as many.


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Post by stuart torr on Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:52 am

Was it really that bad Redflag?
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Post by Ivan on Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:39 am

Is there really any alternative or are they "all as bad as each other"? I wouldn't mind another thirteen years (preferably more) of this:-

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52 per hour.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32%.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. 3,700 rebuilt and significantly refurbished schools; including new and improved classrooms, laboratories and kitchens.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26% in real terms since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 28 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. The Child Poverty Act – 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. In-patient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997: the shortest waiting times since NHS records began.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s and disabled people.

41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75%.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

51. Gender Recognition Act 2004/5.

52. Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland.

53. Walk-in health centres and GP out of hours service.

54. Digital hearing aids through the NHS.

55. Children’s Act 2004 and 2008.

56. Introduced smoke–free legislation, 2007 – child health improving continually since.

57. Retail distribution review – ending commission for financial advisers.

58. Introduced legislation to make company ‘blacklisting’ unlawful.

59. The Equality Act.

60. Established the Disability Rights Commission in 1999.

61. The Human Rights Act.

62  Signed the European Social Chapter.

63. Launched £1.5 billion housing pledge of new affordable housing.

64. The Autism Act 2009.

65. New Deal for Communities Regeneration Programme.

66. All prescriptions free for people being treated for cancer or the effects of cancer.

67. Introduced vaccination to be offered to teenage girls to protect  against cervical cancer.

68. Rough sleeping dropped by two-thirds and homelessness at its lowest level since the early 1980s

69. Cancelled up to 100% of debt for the world’s poorest countries.

70. Increased Britain’s offshore wind capacity more than any country in the world, to provide enough electricity to power 2 million homes.

71. Led the campaign to win the 2012 Olympics for London.

72. Introduced the first ever British Armed Forces and Veterans Day to honour past and present achievements of our armed forces.

73. Created a new right of pedestrian access, so that every family has equal opportunity to access the national coastline.

74. Led the campaign to agree a new international convention banning all cluster munitions.

75. Launched the Swimming Challenge Fund to support free swimming for over 60s and under 16s.

76. Sustainable Communities Act – created community safety partnerships.

77. Set up a dedicated Department for International Development.

78. The Bribery Act 2010.

79. Helped lift 3 million people out of poverty each year, globally.

80. Helped to get 40 million more children into school, globally.

81. Helped to ensure polio is on the verge of being eradicated, globally.

82. 3 million people are now able to access life-preserving drugs for HIV and AIDS.

83. Improved water/sanitation services for over 1.5 million people.

84. Launched a Governance and Transparency Fund to improve governance and increase accountability in poor countries.

85. The Neighbourhood Renewal programme – introduced funding for neighbourhood improvements.

86. The Extending Schools Programme – including breakfast & homework clubs to improve levels of educational achievement and the longer term life chances of disadvantaged children.

87. Launched the Connexions Service –  provided valuable careers advice and support to young people seeking employment.

88. Working family tax credits to support low paid parents in work and to pay for childcare.

89. The Education Maintenance Allowance (EMA).

90. Established the Future Jobs Fund to provide all young people access to a job, training or education.

91. Introduced Warm Front –  helped 2.3 million vulnerable households, those in fuel poverty with energy efficiency improvements.

92. Introduced a public interest test, allowing governments to block international business takeovers on three specific grounds: media plurality, national security or financial stability.

93. The right to request flexible working and the right to breaks at work.

94. Improved work hours – introduced a  law so employers cannot force employees to work more than 48 hours a week.

95. Protection against unfair dismissal –  introduced protections for workers and increased the maximum compensation from £12,000 to around £63,000.

96. Introduced rights for part-time workers – the right to equal pay rates, pension rights, pro-rata holidays and sick pay.

97. Introduced the right to representation  – every worker can be a member of a trade union and be represented in grievance and disciplinary hearings.

98. Rights for parents and carers – introduced the right to time off to deal with unexpected problems for their dependants, such as illness.

99. Introduced literacy and numeracy hours in schools and extended diversity to the curriculum.

100. Reduced class sizes to 30 for 5-7 year old children.

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Post by boatlady on Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:27 am

That is one impressive piece of research Ivan - and I note a number of items on that list being withdrawn , cancelled and generally trashed by the honourable members currently leading the country - but you have to remember, more than offsetting all that good stuff - that we all benefitted from- is the fact that the current Labour leader can't eat a bacon sandwich without looking a bit awkward - surely reason enough to excuse plunging the country into poverty and destroying all our national institutions.

It really breaks my heart to see all that social progress being vandalised by this dreadful government - and so many people seem quite satisfied to let it continue.

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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:43 pm

Very very impressive Ivan, now we know why you are the boss.
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Post by Redflag on Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:56 pm

stuart torr wrote:Was it really that bad Redflag?

I copied it word for word stuart the last bit did make me smile, his own voters know exactly what he is we just need to convince Labour voters that voted Tory in the 2010 G.E. & the ones that intend to vote Ukip in the 2015 G.E EXACTLY what the Tories & Ukip REALLY ARE.
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:00 pm

As I said earlier be careful what you tread in. Laughing
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Post by Redflag on Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:07 pm

stuart torr wrote:As I said earlier be careful what you tread in. Laughing

Spot on stuart Tory SHYTE is very thick and smelly just like all Tory MPs and voters lol!
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:20 pm

Certainly with it today ARE WE NOT REDFLAG lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Redflag on Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:39 pm

stuart torr wrote:Certainly with it today ARE WE NOT REDFLAG lol! lol! lol!

Have been with it since May 2010 stuart that is why I became a Labour party member in May 2010 cheers
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:48 pm

lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Ivan on Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:46 pm

stu. All decisions of any importance on Cutting Edge are made by the team of administrators and moderators. I appreciate the compliments, but I’m not anyone’s ‘boss’, just the opposite – I’m a servant to two cats and a dog!!   Shocked

I also can’t claim responsibility for that list of 100 Labour achievements from 1997 to 2010. Much of it was provided by the late Fred Pitt, a retired Cambridge University archivist who used to post with some of us on the old MSN message boards. Other compilations have been found on the Labour Party website and on the Word Press site of the blogger Kitty S. Jones.

However, I’m sure most people won’t vote Labour just on the strength of what’s been done in the past. They want to know what the next Labour government will do, and here we have 100 policies Ed Miliband will implement if elected:-

http://www.labourleft.co.uk/100-policies-ed-miliband-will-implement-if-elected-to-government-by-laboureoin/
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:03 pm

Well Ivan I will apologise for calling you boss! it was really only a term of what can I say almost endearment, as I feel that I know the posters on the forum so well.
Ed has a very impressive list of things to implement as he not when he gets to power.
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Post by Redflag on Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:29 pm

Ed would not dare break his promise to his members and voters stuart, because he is a decent & honest man did you listen to his speech today ??
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Post by Ivan on Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:33 pm

You can read Ed's speech at Senate House today here:-

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/102524244299/ed-miliband-speech-at-senate-house
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:59 pm

Wow was that some speech our Ed? now who on this earth says that he is doing nothing to win the BASTARD GENERAL ELECTION?
If I hear them they will get the sharp end of my tongue.
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Post by Ivan on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:23 am

Cutting Edge member ImpeccablePeccadillo, who on Twitter goes by the name of @CharlieWoof81, has, with her friend @jon_swindon, created another Twitter storm. Enjoy:-

#CameronMustGo: 107,000 Tweets Decry PM's Policies On Welfare, NHS and Bankers' Bonuses

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cameronmustgo-107000-tweets-decry-pms-policies-welfare-nhs-bankers-bonuses-sunday-morning-1476144
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Post by boatlady on Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:41 am

She is doing well, isn't she
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Post by Ivan on Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:42 am

#BBCtrending: How did one political hashtag dominate the week in Britain?

A political slogan calling for the ousting of David Cameron has been shared on Twitter more than 400,000 times in five days. How did that happen?

It started when two ardent Labour Party supporters got talking on Twitter, and came up with a plan to try to get everyone else talking too. Users called "Gail" and "Jon Swindon" urged their followers - 5,000 in all - to join them tweeting #CameronMustGo, stating their reasons why, on Saturday 22 November at 6pm. Five days later, the slogan's been tweeted more than 400,000 times and today is the top UK trend on Twitter. Users with many followers, such as musician Brian May and former Labour Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, have used the hashtag.

"It's not about forcing Cameron to resign," Gail, 33, told BBC Trending. She didn't want to give the BBC her full name but describes herself as a "lefty person of Northern origin" on Twitter. Rather, she says, it's about enabling people to talk about their views and experiences. "We know a lot of people who are frustrated with politics and they feel they don't have a voice. Social media is our space."


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-30207547
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Post by Redflag on Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:13 am

I have also joined the call on twitter Ivan "#CameronmustgoNOW" I suggest the forum members on CE should join in the trending.
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Post by boatlady on Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:26 pm

Already there Red - like your addition

Do you think it is possible people are finally waking up to what is happening?
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Post by Ivan on Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:37 pm

No, no, no - the addition will dilute the 'traffic' using the original hashtag and could stop it from trending! Big mistake - just use #CameronMustGo.
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