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Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes?

Post by oftenwrong on Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:56 pm

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Depressing, isn't it? All the miserable gits can come up with is oppression of the poor and fear of the disadvantaged. Never mind, here's something that can make us all feel better about the human race - even if it does have to include Cameron and Company .........

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Post by boatlady on Sun May 01, 2016 6:21 pm

So true - it's almost not funny
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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:16 am

The new Tory dictionary

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:07 am

Some of the listed crimes are likely to pale into insignificance once the real cost of Brexit becomes apparent. Britain's financial standing in the world will have been put back to about where it was in 1992.

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Post by Ivan on Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:39 pm

If having Cameron and Osborne at the top of the government wasn’t bad enough, now we have Theresa May and Boris Johnson determining our future. The following blog by Tom King is good, even if he wrote it with the ulterior motive of getting you to join the Lib Dems and supporting their candidate in the Witney by-election on Thursday:-

Theresa May’s Britain: disgraceful, unpatriotic and openly racist

I can’t remember a worse day in British politics than October 4th, 2016. Today ranked far below even last year’s general election, when 49 of my party’s MPs were defeated, and June 23rd, a date I thought had established itself as comfortably the worst domestic political event of my lifetime.

I have spent the day in a state of bewilderment, anger, disgust and despair at the way the Conservative government is dragging the country into a disgraceful mire. They claim to base this on a single vote, a vote to leave the European Union, that was decided on a knife-edge – a mere 1.27 million votes out of the 33.55 million cast. On the basis of this vote, they claim to understand what 'the public' wants, and even what it thinks.

The government that Theresa May is running can now only be described as overtly racist. The policy announcements made today by successive ministers were worthy of 1930s Germany and, as UKIP MEP Patrick O’Flynn rightly crowed, redolent of his party’s 2015 manifesto.


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Many of us have realised for years that Boris Johnson is a serial liar and adulterer, a charlatan and a narcissist. The staggering revelation that he wrote an article supporting the EU on 19 February, two days before announcing his support for the Leave campaign, merely reinforces our view of this amoral and unprincipled chancer. Yet Theresa May gave him the job of foreign secretary! I can only think she must have been applying Lyndon Johnson’s principle of “better inside the tent peeing out”.

Boris Johnson's secret 'Remain' article revealed

"Britain is a great nation, a global force for good. It is surely a boon for the world and for Europe that she should be intimately engaged in the EU." He also warned that Brexit would cause an "economic shock" and could lead to the "break up" of the United Kingdom.

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Post by boatlady on Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:03 pm

I suspect May has given Boris the Foreign Office in the hope he will be able quickly to get us into a war of some sort - which, as we all know, is a sure vote-getter for the Tories
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:02 pm

One might almost think they were trying to trump Donald.
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Post by boatlady on Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:00 pm

We got there first - currently politics seems to be a race to the bottom
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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:53 pm

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Post by Phil Hornby on Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:49 pm

The Attorney General addresses the Supreme Court Judges...

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"...and unless you find entirely in my favour, I shall give the Daily Mail your home addresses..."
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:28 pm

Now let me see if I've got this straight. Every five years I get to vote for the Government, right?

Depends upon whether the chap you voted for actually won and is also a member of the PARTY that won the most seats.

So the party with the most seats is the Government, yes?

That's an over-simplification, since most of the individual Members of Parliament (MPs) in that majority party may never get a sniff at being in Government. It is the Leader of that Party who chooses his "Ministers" that form his Cabinet, which is then the actual Government.

But I never voted for the Prime Minister to be Prime Minister.

No, you didn't. He (or She) is whoever happens accidentally to be Leader of the Party with the most seats. I've told you that.

So, when THE GOVERNMENT goes to Law to confirm that it alone decides Parliamentary process, it isn't what I thought I was voting for?

Possibly not.
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Post by Ivan on Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:43 pm

Is this what Sajid Javid has in mind? scratch

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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:08 pm

I've no doubt that a Trump style "America First" stance will still allow Britain to buy whatever it wants from them.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:23 pm

Yes, we are so strong and confident as a newly-freed nation that the dawning prospect of leaving the 'dreadful EU' sees our brown leather-trousered government running timidly to the now right-wing America, desperate for Trump's approval to be the first in line as 'poodle-in-waiting'...
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:48 pm

Meanwhile, the Murdoch Press continues to rewrite history.
Sarah Baxter writes in today's Sunday Times, "I'm one of the nearly 12 million suckers about to get hammered for driving a diesel car. It seems like only yesterday we were told by a Labour government it was a great way to reduce Britain's carbon footprint."

No, Sarah, that was 1993 when Tory Chancellor Norman Lamont reduced the amount of Fuel Duty on diesel fuel, relative to petrol. It was when he also invented The Fuel Duty Escalator, remember? Of course you do.
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Post by boatlady on Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:23 am

currently politics seems to be a race to the bottom

and apparently, we're not there yet
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A Reality Check

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:43 pm

A lot has happened since last June, and the election of a so-called President has served only to muddy the water still further.

There's something to be learned from a fresh re-viewing of the Brexit campaign, before the current developments on that front:

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Post by Ivan on Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:16 pm

'Sweetener' or 'gentleman's agreement'? The Tory scandal concerning extra funds being found for Surrey County Council won't seem to go away.....


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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:15 am

Similar skeletons may well be in the cupboard around "understandings" by foreign owners of manufacturing plant in the UK.
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Post by Ivan on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:01 pm

Theresa May stooped to a new low at PMQs today with her ad hominem attack on Jeremy Corbyn over grammar schools. Yes, he was sent to one by his parents. So was Alice Bacon. So was I. Firstly, it wasn't our decision to make, and secondly, if the only alternative was a secondary modern, rather than a comprehensive, what realistic option did our parents have? Either way it doesn't mean we are obliged to support such institutions when we recognise how socially divisive they are.

However, May's real gutter moment came when she tried to paint Corbyn as a hypocrite because his son went to a grammar school. As I've no doubt she's well aware, Corbyn was so vehemently opposed to his child receiving a selective education that it precipitated the end of his marriage. And shouldn't she keep people's children out of her responses at PMQs?

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Post by boatlady on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:18 pm

There is nothing this odious woman will not stoop to, it seems
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Post by Ivan on Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:35 pm

The real reason that right-wing Tories were so desperate for the UK to leave the European Union........

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Post by boatlady on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:37 am

Soon, I might have to give up the advice game - people will have no rights left that I can advise on
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:48 am

Where there's muck there's brass

Meaning, Where there are dirty jobs to be done there is money to be made.

Origin:  
Brass has been used as the name of copper and bronze coins, and later of all forms of money, in the UK since at least the 16th century. Joseph Hall's Virgidemiarum, 1597 includes:  "Shame that the muses should be bought and sold For every peasant's brass."

'Where there's muck there's brass' is a 20th century expression which originated in Yorkshire where brass is still used as a slang term for money. The expression is rarely used nowadays, although writers sometimes call on it when they want to establish a character as a blunt Yorkshireman. By 'muck' any form of dirt or manure may be implied, depending on context.

John Ray expressed the notion in A collection of English proverbs, 1678:
"Muck and money go together."

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