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Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

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Post by astradt1 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:21 am

First topic message reminder :

Remember how before the last election, you know before there were mass demonstrations and riots, when we had 10,000 more police officers and more nurses and soldiers, when more people were in work, Dave kept shouting about 'Broken Britain' and how it need to be 'Fixed'.

Well now Two years on has he managed to 'fix' it and if so how would we know?

Why is he not shouting about his success?


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Post by boatlady on Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:13 pm

Ivan - brilliant video clip - thanks for sharing

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:55 pm

"Everyone knows" is an overworked phrase, subsequently discredited, but anyone with half a brain "knows" that this administration is, in truth, thoroughly discredited.

Which includes themselves.

It's time for a change (again!) and only the British Electorate can effect that.

Normally, we get the Government we deserve. So what comes next?

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Post by Redflag on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:46 am

 As long as we have voter apathy in the UK we will never get the gov't we deserve OW.
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Post by Ivan on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:27 am

Let’s see how Cameron has fixed ‘broken Britain’ in the last three and a half years:-
 
- Wages are down by an average of £1,500 a year.
 
- Prices have risen faster than wages in 39 of the 40 months of this Tory-dominated government.
 
- Food bank usage has grown by 700% and 300,000 more children are living in absolute poverty.
 
- Gas prices are up 31% and electricity prices are up between 22% and 39%.
 
- The national debt has risen by £447 billion.
 
- The economy has grown by just 1.7%, rather than the 6.9% the coalition aimed for.
 
- Royal Mail has been sold for 50% less than it is now valued at.
 
- Over 35,000 police personnel have lost their jobs.
 
- More than 600,000 public sector workers’ jobs have been axed.
 
- Almost one million young people are unemployed.
 
- Two-thirds of people affected by the bedroom tax are disabled, and 96% of those hit have nowhere to which to move.
 
Never mind, it's not all bad news. Bankers’ bonuses have risen by 64% in just one year, and top rate taxpayers have had a 5% rate cut.
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:32 pm

The Tory machine will be running at full speed during the next 19 months to acquire a sufficient majority at the next General Election to rule alone, as the majority party.

Only we, and people like us, can stop that. This is no time for introspection and navel-gazing, everyone must fall in behind the Labour Party because it's the only other game in town with a chance of winning.

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Post by Penderyn on Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:54 pm

oftenwrong wrote:The Tory machine will be running at full speed during the next 19 months to acquire a sufficient majority at the next General Election to rule alone, as the majority party.

Only we, and people like us, can stop that.  This is no time for introspection and navel-gazing, everyone must fall in behind the Labour Party because it's the only other game in town with a chance of winning.

It depend on the constituency: there are many where the New Labour lot have no chance whatever, so you can vote for someone decent instead, if such offer.
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Post by Dan Fante on Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:38 pm

Broken Britain was a huge lie to start with. Violent crimes like murder for example being at almost a 40 year low (and lower than at virtually any point during that period) when Cameron and co. came up with the catchphrase.
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Post by Penderyn on Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:45 pm

Dan Fante wrote:Broken Britain was a huge lie to start with. Violent crimes like murder for example being at almost a 40 year low (and lower than at virtually any point during that period) when Cameron and co. came up with the catchphrase.
It was 'broken' because it didn't pay the bankers' enough. What's it got to do with a lot of bloody people?
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Post by Redflag on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:21 am

Dan Fante wrote:Broken Britain was a huge lie to start with. Violent crimes like murder for example being at almost a 40 year low (and lower than at virtually any point during that period) when Cameron and co. came up with the catchphrase.
 
You're spot on Dan Fante, it was just one of the MANY LIES the Tory party SPOUTED.:yeahthat:
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Post by Penderyn on Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:35 pm

Redflag wrote:
Dan Fante wrote:Broken Britain was a huge lie to start with. Violent crimes like murder for example being at almost a 40 year low (and lower than at virtually any point during that period) when Cameron and co. came up with the catchphrase.
 
You're spot on Dan Fante, it was just one of the MANY LIES the Tory party SPOUTED.:yeahthat:
The important question is how many it can get believed, particularly when its bully-boys put the frighteners on the BBC and New Labour - of course, won't fight.
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Post by Redflag on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:49 pm

Penderyn wrote: The important question is how many it can get believed, particularly when its bully-boys put the frighteners on the BBC and New Labour - of course, won't fight.
 
Penderyn a short while back I thought the BBC was on the side of the Tory party. DD from QT is an ex-bullingdon boy, and he is not the only one, the trouble the Tories have with the BBC is the BBC is not willing to tell LIES about how well they are doing with the economy or how well their policies are working.deadhorse
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:51 pm

Tories don't see their propaganda as "Lies", Redflag. They are an attempt to justify what other people will have recognised as plain self-interest.
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Post by Redflag on Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:50 am

I agree OW but what the Tories  see as self interest the good and honest people of the UK know them as BLOODY DAMN LIES.
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Post by Ivan on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:46 pm

London's Laundry Business
 
From an article by Ben Judah:-
 
"London has changed. And the Shard — the Qatari-owned, 72-floor skyscraper above the grotty Southwark riverside — is a symbol of that change.

The Shard encapsulates the new hierarchy of the city. On the top floors, 'ultra high net worth individuals' entertain escorts in luxury apartments. By day, on floors below, investment bankers trade incomprehensible derivatives.

Come nightfall, the elevators are full of African cleaners, paid next to nothing and treated as nonexistent. The acres of glass windows are scrubbed by Polish laborers, who sleep four to a room in bedsit slums. And near the Shard are the immigrants from Lithuania and Romania, who broke their backs on construction sites, but are now destitute and whiling away their hours along the banks of the Thames.

The Shard is London, a symbol of a city where oligarchs are celebrated and migrants are exploited but that pretends to be a multicultural utopia. Here, in their capital city, the English are no longer the ones calling the shots. They are hirelings."

 
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Post by Redflag on Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:30 pm

oftenwrong wrote:The Tory machine will be running at full speed during the next 19 months to acquire a sufficient majority at the next General Election to rule alone, as the majority party.

Only we, and people like us, can stop that.  This is no time for introspection and navel-gazing, everyone must fall in behind the Labour Party because it's the only other game in town with a chance of winning.


HEAR HEAR OW as I would put it this is no time to F**K about its up to the people of the UK (every last one of them) to get out there and vote for a Labour gov't, as I am looking forward to see the UK public wipe the SMUG ARROGANT smile off the face of Davy boy along with the rest of the Bully boy Tories. stirpot 
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Post by witchfinder on Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:40 pm

I would like to share this with the posters on here, it is from the website of Dr David Owen ( Lord Owen ).

STATEMENT ISSUED BY LORD DAVID OWEN, SATURDAY 1 MARCH 2014 ON THE LABOUR PARTY SPECIAL CONFERENCE DECISION TO REFORM THE VOTING SYSTEM FOR THE LABOUR PARTY LEADER

“This is a brave and bold reform by Ed Miliband and one I strenuously argued for as a Labour MP at the special conference on Saturday, 25 January 1981. This very desirable change, nevertheless, threatens to weaken Labour’s financial support at a critical time when I and many others are hoping to see the Party produce a plan for Government from May of next year to rescue our NHS. Saving the NHS is my main political priority and I suspect that of many others. To help Labour reverse the 2012 NHS legislation without yet another major reorganization, I have made a declarable contribution of over £7,500 to Labour funds. Unless there is a change of Government the NHS in England will be completely destroyed by 2020.(end)
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The Labour Party must make every effort over the next year to remind the British public how the Tories have prepared the NHS for a total sell off, I personaly believe that the NHS will be a crucial and deciding factor at the next election.




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Post by boatlady on Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:24 pm

I think you may well be right - it's certainly the aspect of the current situation that I'm most aware of and feel most personally threatened by.
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Post by Redflag on Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:53 am

witchfinder wrote:I would like to share this with the posters on here, it is from the website of Dr David Owen ( Lord Owen ).

STATEMENT ISSUED BY LORD DAVID OWEN, SATURDAY 1 MARCH 2014 ON THE LABOUR PARTY SPECIAL CONFERENCE DECISION TO REFORM THE VOTING SYSTEM FOR THE LABOUR PARTY LEADER

“This is a brave and bold reform by Ed Miliband and one I strenuously argued for as a Labour MP at the special conference on Saturday, 25 January 1981.  This very desirable change, nevertheless, threatens to weaken Labour’s financial support at a critical time when I and many others are hoping to see the Party produce a plan for Government from May of next year to rescue our NHS. Saving the NHS is my main political priority and I suspect that of many others. To help Labour reverse the 2012 NHS legislation without yet another major reorganization, I have made  a declarable contribution of over £7,500 to Labour funds. Unless there is a change of Government the NHS in England will be completely destroyed by 2020.(end)
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The Labour Party must make every effort over the next year to remind the British public how the Tories have prepared the NHS for a total sell off, I personaly believe that the NHS will be a crucial and deciding factor at the next election.





Your spot on WF clause 119 is going through the HOC this week and if it is passed CHUNT and the Tories will be able to shut any hospital it wants, and there will be no going to law to stop the Tories doing exactly what they want with OUR NHS
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Post by Ivan on Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:02 pm

The year government cuts changed the face of the welfare state
 
Twenty reasons from last year (adapted from an article compiled by staff at ‘The Guardian’) for not voting for representatives of this government in May 2015:-
 
1. The number of children living in absolute poverty rose sharply.
 
2. Food banks, almost entirely dependent on volunteers and donated food, grew rapidly because of low wages, rising living costs, and benefit cuts and delays.
 
3. Demand for food banks surged after April, when welfare changes reduced the incomes of the poorest, many of them ill and disabled.
 
4. Police reported a rise in shoplifting of groceries, often by mothers desperate to prevent their children from going hungry.
 
5. Doctors declared that food poverty was now a "public health emergency".
 
6. Iain Duncan Smith refused to admit there was any evidence of a link between welfare reform and food bank use.
 
7. Councils no longer have a duty to house homeless people in social housing, offering an unregulated private tenancy instead, taking us back to ‘Cathy Come Home’-style housing for poor families.
 
8. More than 2,000 homeless families with children were in emergency bed and breakfast accommodation on 30 September 2013.
 
9. Households are being shunted out of London to cheaper cities as far away as Hull and Stoke, leaving their communities behind.
 
10. The closure of children's centres and Sure Start projects added to the pressure on vulnerable parents and increased the demand on social workers.
 
11. Two-thirds of those affected by the bedroom tax were disabled – and many found themselves obliged to pay extra for rooms where carers sleep and specialist equipment is stored.
 
12. A survey revealed that 90% of disabled people affected by the bedroom tax, who hadn't received a safety-net payment, were cutting back on food bills.
 
13. Delays in paying the personal independence payment (which replaces the disability living allowance) to people with terminal illnesses meant hundreds of very ill cancer patients faced months without money, and some died before they received the benefit.
 
14. Jeremy Hunt blamed the 2004 GP contract for A&E overcrowding in 2013. His rhetoric and decisions have angered and alienated GPs, nurses, NHS managers and others who feel unfairly maligned.
 
15. Lawyers say that the tightening of conditions for entitlement to legal aid in cases of domestic violence has led to many vulnerable and at-risk women being excluded. Victims now have to prove they have been abused with hard-to-acquire evidence.
 
16. More than 950,000 young people are now unemployed and 30% have been looking for work for more than a year.
 
17. For the first time since the Second World War, young Britons embarking on their careers cannot expect to be any better off than their parents.
 
18. The privatisation programme in the criminal justice system had a setback with the announcement of fraud inquiries into Serco and G4S over existing tagging contracts.
 
19. Both Serco and G4S run prisons that are the three worst-performing in England and Wales.
 
20. Whitehall insiders talk of 30 English councils going bust over the next few years.
 
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Post by Redflag on Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:22 pm

Thank you IVAN for reminding the people of the UK just how VILE & NASTY the Tories are, there is one thing that is not in your list that there is 550 people going to hospitals suffering from MALUTRITION, this in the 21st century in the UK this gov't need to be held to account in May 2015 when we have a FAIR Labour gov't in power no ands or butts let us get the entire Tory cabinet before the courts for there CRIMES against Humanity.

I hope you will put this list out there nearer to the time of the general election in May 2015 Ivan, as we both know the LIES will be pouring out of the gobs of the Tory party from the end of this year on the run up too the G.E in the hope they will be able to pull the wool over the eyes of the UK public not wanting to be known as the "One Term Firm" which we are all hoping they will be. cheers 
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:23 pm

All true, but merely the intended result of a Tory administration doing a "catch-up" for 13 years out of office.

They've never wanted a Welfare State, they have consistently opposed it. Tories believe in standing on your own two feet and devil-take-the-hindmost. Cameron and his companion figureheads are employed to disguise the unpalatable facts as a regrettable necessity.

In a very real sense, the Tory Party is an irrelevance to decent hard-working British families, so why don't we just ignore them?

What doesn't concern you, can't hurt you.
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Post by Redflag on Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:40 am

I wish that was true OW, as we have seen in May 2010 general election the hard working  man/women did vote Tory why I will never know, after what Thatcher did to them for 18years that should have been enough to put them off voting Tory ever again.
 
As long as some people vote Tory the rest of us will never be able to ignore them.
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Post by Penderyn on Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:04 pm

Redflag wrote:I wish that was true OW, as we have seen in May 2010 general election the hard working  man/women did vote Tory why I will never know, after what Thatcher did to them for 18years that should have been enough to put them off voting Tory ever again.
 
As long as some people vote Tory the rest of us will never be able to ignore them.

Way back when, some of us in the Labour Party were trying to establish a free press in Britain.   The Labour Leadership thought that FAR too dangerous, which is why we have the problem you mention.
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:40 pm

A free press. What's that?
Every British newspaper loses money if only the cover-price is counted. Advertising goes a long way towards balancing the books, but still isn't the whole story. Wealthy people are drawn to becoming Newspaper Proprietors, for a variety of unsubtle reasons, and are reasonably content to subsidise minor losses. In this they are of course aided by like-minded friends, who are pleased to help spread the gospel as they see it.

British history records a depressingly long list of left-leaning Press set up to balance our news-coverage, but the Public won't or can't support that kind of reporting.

Daily Citizen -
Daily Herald - from the Trades Union Congress (1912-64).
The Bee-Hive - initially from the London Trades Council, then independent (1861-72).
The Call - official organ of the British Socialist Party, terminated 1920 with establishment of The Communist.
Clarion - independent (1891-1931).
The Communist - publication of the Communist Party of Great Britain from 1920 until replaced by The Workers' Weekly early in 1923.
Justice - from the Social Democratic Federation, British Socialist Party and then National Socialist Party (1884-1933).
Labour Herald - independent (1981-85).
Labour Leader - independent until acquired by the Independent Labour Party (1887-1986).
Labour Standard - from the London Trades Council (1881-85).
Labour Weekly official Labour Party newspaper which was closed in 1988.
Militant - from the Militant tendency and (later) Militant Labour (1964-97).
News on Sunday - independent.
Reynolds News - independent until acquired by the Co-operative Press (1850-1967).
The Socialist - from the Socialist Labour Party (1903-?).
Socialist Commentary - from the Socialist Vanguard Group (1934-78).
Socialist Organiser - from the Socialist Organiser Alliance.
Soviet Weekly - from the Novosti Press Agency (1942-91)
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Post by Ivan on Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:12 pm

From food banks to property bubbles – the moral decay that blights Britain
 
Extracts from an article by Nick Cohen:-
 
What image will social historians use to capture our times? After frenzied bidding, a drab garage next to a Camberwell industrial estate sold for £550,000. That might do. Yet alongside oligarchs buying the capital's streets, and the Treasury pumping asset prices, we also have poverty that most of us have not seen before.

Food banks are discreet. You don't see queues of distressed people waiting by their doors. The Anglicans who run them show their kindness by doing nothing to draw attention to their clients' poverty. Food banks might do as a symbol of our times too.

For me, the best symbol is a contract stating "hours of work will be advised by the visitor manager and will be dependent upon the requirements for retail assistants". The staff had no security, the contract made clear, and no guaranteed minimum income. The bosses might leave them at home from one week to the next, while still insisting that the casual workers remained available to work for them and them alone. The contract says so much because the employer in question was not some crook but the Queen – whom everyone in authority assures us is a benign sovereign who cares for all of her subjects.

The division between work and unemployment is no longer clear either. Is someone sitting in a bedsit waiting for the Queen or some other cheapskate racketeer to call, employed or unemployed? All you can usefully say is, for the millions living on or near the minimum wage, work can no longer bring them dignity and security.

 
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Post by boatlady on Thu May 29, 2014 4:40 pm

As I recall, back in 2010 part of the advertised strategy for fixing broken Britain was to be something called the Big Society. The idea was that instead of paying for social and community work, phalanxes of enthusiastic and unexpectedly talented volunteers would emerge to take on roles like supporting vulnerable members of society, keeping neighbourhoods safe and pleasant, visiting the elderly and providing babysitting services for hard-pressed parents.

At first, in the bitterness of having seen Labour lose the election, I unthinkingly pooh-poohed this idea - I thought the Big Society would put people out of work, really vulnerable people would be made even more vulnerable by receiving essential services from well-meaning but essentially unskilled helpers. No way I was going to enable this process.

However, a few years on, and I started to miss being part of a team, making a difference in the world, all that good stuff you get with working - so I started volunteering with an old and well-established voluntary organisation that has traditionally just been there to bridge the gaps - to provide access to information and advice in cases when you wouldn't want to involve a professional.

In the couple of years I've been doing this, I've seen the disappearance of statutory services and other forms of help - legal aid, psychiatric care, support services for vulnerable people, adult education, welfare rights advisors - and all that unmet need comes streaming through the door - people with learning difficulties, who don't understand the forms but have to claim JSA; people with mild to severe mental health problems who have fallen foul of official agencies and have no-one else to advocate for them; people who want to get a divorce and can't get any help from legal aid; people who don't have English as their first language and need help to complete benefit forms'; people who are being deprived of their rights in the workplace but can't afford to go to a tribunal; people who are in dispute with their landlords; people who are facing court, bailiff action and possibly prison for inability to pay their council tax; people with horrifying rates of debt and hardly any resources to deal with this; people who are starving, roofless, unable to provide for their children; people who are terminally ill and can't get their benefit paid.

Apparently, according to Dave and his pals, the solution to this horrific level of need is for people to come to an underfunded shabby office to be seen by a pensioner who tires easily (we're mostly pension age and over - who of working age can afford to work for nothing?)

Services that have funding and paid staff are very strictly controlled and unable or unwilling even to look at this flood of social need (eg someone will be sent from the Job Centre for help filling in a form because it's not the Job Centre's job to help filling in forms; an individual who has a social worker or a support worker will be sent for advice on benefit entitlement because their support worker isn't responsible for this - just for visiting weekly to make sure they're still alive; people with a consumer issue will come because Trading Standards doesn't look at individuals cases - I could go on and on). The upshot is that a seriously underfunded organisation staffed by retired people is doing work that, four years ago, was being done by skilled (and employed) staff - so we are enabling unemployment, and we are enabling the disenfranchisement of vulnerable members of society by providing help and support that however well-meaning and skilled is not professional and is without real status in the eyes of the powerful forces ranged against these people.

I was right in the first place -- but what are you going to do?
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Post by oftenwrong on Thu May 29, 2014 5:42 pm

All of which goes to confirm that the best thing we can occupy ourselves with is ejecting the coalition. All of 'em.
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Post by Ivan on Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:24 pm

How Cameron has ‘fixed’ Britain.

George Eaton writes of how next year Labour could inherit “a state that, in parts, is on the brink of collapse: a bankrupt NHS, an imploding housing market (forcing a precipitous rise in interest rates) and a prison system at full capacity, combined with the requirement to accelerate the deepest public-service cuts since the war, or raise taxes by an equivalent amount." One unnamed Labour frontbencher told him: “Sometimes I worry more about winning than losing.” (Cue for a Phil Hornby response?)

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Post by Phil Hornby on Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:32 am

Relax, Labour need not fear winning...     Shocked
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:01 pm

The Poisoned Chalice. But only the Majority Party (or a coalition/minority government) at Westminster actually makes things happen or introduces new Law.

Opposition parties can only criticise, and await their turn to hold the levers of power. Always the bridesmaid and never The Bride - until the Electorate choose.

Who would have chosen to form a new government straight after the second world war? A literally Bankrupt nation having to rebuild homes and factories destroyed by bombing, and at the same time export manufactured goods in order to pay for food imports? Yet a Socialist government did all of that and introduced the welfare state.

Has everybody forgotten how to face that kind of challenge?

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Post by Redflag on Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:03 pm

oftenwrong wrote:All of which goes to confirm that the best thing we can occupy ourselves with is ejecting the coalition.  All of 'em.


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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by Ivan on Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:22 pm

So has Cameron managed to fix it?  No 

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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:39 pm

As happened at the fag-end of John Major's administration, skeletons are falling thick and fast from the coalition's cupboard to which Cameron's only response is to fret about the potential for increased Terrorist activity. Again.

e.g. "The Home Office frittered away hundreds of millions of taxpayer pounds on a botched tech project designed to manage immigration and asylum applications, a National Audit Office report has revealed.

The "flagship" IT programme, the Immigration Case Work computer system, was launched in 2010 to replace fragmented systems and pull together caseworkers to improve and speed up decision making.

The ICW was expected to replace the legacy database and 20 disparate IT and paper-based systems by March this year - it was to comprise applications, decisions and a search facility.

But the programme experienced "delays and problems" and was subsequently shuttered in August 2013, "delivering significantly less than planned for £347m," the NAO revealed today.

The report stated the Home Office lacks "good quality management information" to process applications "partly because of poor IT".

There are 301,000 cases being dealt with and this includes 31,000 dating back to more than seven years.

Bizarrely, caseworkers continue to rely on the dusty Casework Information Database but this creaky old system has a "history of freezing and being unusable" and does not sync with other existing systems, the auditors claimed.

A swanky new project, Immigration Platform Technologies is to address legacy IT issues at a cost of £208m by 2016/17. This involves a series of bite-sized components to give "incremental improvements," said the NAO.

Support contracts for legacy tech are due to expire in 2016 before the new programme, which "still has far to go to have a significant impact", is fully rolled out in 2017.

IBM won the immigration casework management system gig in 2008 but it is unclear if IBM was then appointed in 2010 when the project was launched by the coalition government.


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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by Redflag on Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:40 pm

Ivan wrote:How Cameron has ‘fixed’ Britain.

George Eaton writes of how next year Labour could inherit “a state that, in parts, is on the brink of collapse: a bankrupt NHS, an imploding housing market (forcing a precipitous rise in interest rates) and a prison system at full capacity, combined with the requirement to accelerate the deepest public-service cuts since the war, or raise taxes by an equivalent amount." One unnamed Labour frontbencher told him: “Sometimes I worry more about winning than losing.” (Cue for a Phil Hornby response?)

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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:39 pm

"... I hope Ed gives them a bloody mouthful."

I wouldn't bank on it.

 After all, he is not appearing to give himself much practice at present - he being quieter than a mute fitted with a silencer and seated inside a soundproof chamber.

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Post by boatlady on Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:59 pm

On the other hand --- maybe Dave and co are doing his job for him - when the news daily carries stories of government failure, why would you do anything more than smirk slightly while muttering 'told you so'?

As more than one contributor has noted, the state is more or less trashed, so the next administration better not make ambitious promises - they'll be sweeping up the rubbish for the foreseeable
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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:32 pm

That'll be it then.

No need for Ed to trouble himself by actually doing something...   Shocked
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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by boatlady on Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:46 am

He'll save that for next May - when he becomes PM - he'll need all his energy to restore something like normal service
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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by bobby on Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:00 am

To become PM he first needs to be an opposition leader and actually oppose something?
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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by Redflag on Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:19 pm

I am with boatlady on this, you all know the old saying "Give them Enough Rope and they Will Hang Themselves". As you all have seen Scameron has hanged him and his party several times over as far as the people of the UK are concerned.
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Re: Whatever happened to 'Broken Britain'......did Dave manage to fix it?

Post by bobby on Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:11 pm

I also know the old saying," a faint heart never won a fair Lady"
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