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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:56 pm

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Jacob Rees-Mogg has been the Tory MP for North East Somerset since the general election of 2010. He went to Eton and Oxford, worked in finance and married the heiress Helena de Chair, with whom he has three sons and a daughter.
 
Why do I suggest that Rees-Mogg is eccentric?
 
- When he was the Tory candidate for Central Fife in 1997, he canvassed a largely working class neighbourhood with his nanny. (He received 9% of the votes.)
 
- He has named his three sons Peter Theodore Alphege, Tom Wentworth Somerset Dunstan and Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam.
 
- In a House of Commons debate on the remuneration of EU staff in 2012, he used the word ‘floccinaucinihilipilification’, making it the longest word to be recorded in Hansard. (It’s Eton jargon meaning ‘unimportant’ or ‘worthless’.)
 
- He tried to amend the Daylight Saving Bill to give the county of Somerset its own time zone, 15 minutes behind London.
 
- He thinks that council officials who have the power to issue on-the-spot fines should be forced to wear bowler hats.
 
What evidence is there to suggest that Rees-Mogg is just plain nasty?
 
- He thinks that zero-hours contracts are “beneficial to employees”, who are “able to say no”. He doesn’t attempt to explain how employees are supposed to make ends meet if they have no income for weeks on end.
 
- He’s tried to rewrite history by saying that “the model of the flint-faced Victorian employer grinding the poor never was particularly accurate but today such an image is even more false". Dickens got it all wrong, did he? Those weavers in Rochdale didn’t really need to set up the Co-op just because people were being paid in currency issued by their employers which could only be used in their employers’ shops? The early 20th century working conditions in Hastings described in ‘The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists’ are pure fiction, are they?
 
- He attended the annual dinner of the Traditional Britain Group as its guest speaker. He was warned in advance that the group, formed in 2001, consists of very nasty, extreme right-wing racists (they want Stephen Lawrence’s mother, and millions of others, “returned to their natural homelands”), but he still went to the function. Labour MP Sheila Gilmore said: “It’s shocking that a Conservative MP would associate himself with a group which has such extreme and unpleasant views, despite reportedly being warned by Searchlight. Condoning views like these is not harmless fun or mild eccentricity – it is deeply offensive and shows a lack of respect and common sense. It’s yet another example of a Tory who is completely out of touch with modern Britain.”
 
Jacob Rees-Mogg is comically known by parliamentary sketch writers as 'the Honourable Member for the Early 20th Century'. 21,130 people in North East Somerset voted for this clown in 2010. He’s so stupid that in March 2009 he was forced to apologise to Trevor Kavanagh, the former political editor of ‘The Sun’, after he plagiarised sections of a Kavanagh article. He’s proof, as if we needed it, that there are lots of idiots who will vote for any halfwit as long as it’s wearing a blue rosette.
 
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by Redflag on Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:18 am

Boatlady he is doing what other Tories do spouting a load of VERBAL DIARROHEA as usual .

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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:33 pm

Life is just full of coincidences, isn't it?
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by sickchip on Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:28 am

Typifies the Tory "one rule for them another rule for us" mentality.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by Ivan on Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:56 pm

Apparently, Jacob Rees-Mogg reckons that health and safety standards that are "good enough for India" should be good enough for the UK as well.......  No

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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by TriMonk3y on Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:08 am

Ivan wrote:health and safety standards that are "good enough for India" should be good enough for the UK as well.......  

Which is of course just nonsense. The UK really has led the world in Occupational safety and Health. The EU regime is based upon what had been developed in the UK pre Maastricht, and much of what exists in EN:ISOs has roots in old BSs. There is very little done today in the UK in H&S matters that we would not have been doing anyway.

Any rollback here is ideological only, of no benefit to business, no benefit to workers, and of no benefit to the economy either.

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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by Ivan on Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:21 am

EU rules have resulted in much cleaner beaches throughout Europe, but presumably Rees-Mogg thinks that beaches such as this one in India are acceptable:-

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Presumably Rees-Mogg thinks that this scale of fatalities is preferable to pesky HSE regulations:-
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Still, not to worry. I don't suppose that Rees-Mogg's sons Peter Theodore Alphege, Tom Wentworth Somerset Dunstan and Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam will ever have to risk their lives in a dangerous working environment, if they ever have to work at all.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:23 pm

Oh, and that nasty smell which appears permanently under Rees-Mogg's wrinkled nostril emanates from the Public.

Doing whatever we can to ruffle his privileged superiority.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by sickchip on Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:31 pm

I'm just so pleased that we taxpayers are seeing our money being put to good use for once. The £millions being spent on that ancestral home are clearly essential - the country could not survive such a building being in a state of disrepair, or indeed collapsing; and it would be totally unfair to expect the Rees-Moggs to fund such an expense just because they could afford to.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by Penderyn on Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:25 pm

Redflag wrote:I do not know why you're so down on Tony Blair, Penderyn, when Cameron has put more than his fair share of old school pals and donors who have given the Tory party huge donations.  There are now 838 Lords within the house of Lords and that needs to lose around 600 so our democracy will not cost us so much money.

Well, they are supposed to be in different parties, after all! I expect tories to behave worse than pigs, always, and they always do, but I was brought up to believe Labour was different. Smile
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Post by boatlady on Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:37 pm

Sure he'll be a wonderful PM afraid doh ( I want an emoji for 'throwing up')
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:50 pm

Jacob R-M's affected Pickwickian persona is merely a variation of Bo-Jo's clown.
Each is a smokescreen for dubious ambition. Beware.
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Post by boatlady on Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:06 pm

I know - either one would be an unmitigated disaster in government - we don't need these posh dilettantes running things. They've done enough harm
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Post by Ivan on Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:22 am

Matthew Parris, writing about Jacob Rees-Mogg:-

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Post by Ivan on Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:37 am

When this thread was started four years ago, Jacob Rees-Mogg had four children. Now he has six.  rabbit  rabbit  rabbit  rabbit  rabbit  rabbit

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Post by boatlady on Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:25 pm

goodness, you mean that perfectly nice ordinary looking woman has had sex with him 6 times? He must be VERY rich - and she must have no standards
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:47 pm

But hubby's going to lead the Conservative Party. Life can have compensations.
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Post by Ivan on Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:10 pm

boatlady wrote:that perfectly nice ordinary looking woman.....He must be VERY rich
Rees-Mogg’s wife, the former Helena de Chair, brought her own money to the marriage. She is the daughter of Lady Juliet Tadgell, formerly Marchioness of Bristol, and ex-Tory MP, author and poet Somerset de Chair. Lady Juliet is heir to the Fitzwilliam fortune and has an estimated net worth of £45 million, all of which Helena stands to inherit as her only surviving child. It was under one of his mother-in-law’s six Van Dycks that Rees-Mogg proposed to Helena at Bourne Park, her mother’s stately home in Kent, which she also stands to inherit. This will add to the family’s already substantial property portfolio, which currently comprises a Mayfair townhouse, a Grade II-listed manor house in Rees-Mogg’s Somerset constituency and an interest in several other London properties. When Helena comes into her inheritance, the Rees-Moggs’ net worth will be in excess of £100 million, and possibly as high as £150 million.

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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:58 pm

Moggmentum: Rees-Mogg mania and what it says about us

From an article by Nathaniel Tapley:-

"Perhaps the strangest thing about the Rees-Mogg phenomenon is how boringly predictable it is. It’s utterly, perfectly apt that we find ourselves in a position where a man with the pallor of drizzle and the intonation of a serial killer shouting instructions to a victim at the bottom of a well, should now be thought of as a leading political figure, a star of social media and even an outside contender to be prime minister. People say he’s a Wodehousian figure. I hope it’s not because they believe he would be happy to do paid propaganda work for the Nazis.

A few weeks ago, the country was agog at the birth of Rees-Mogg’s sixth child, Sixtus. Normally, in this country, when someone’s lifestyle is funded by the taxpayer we take great, hooting pleasure in telling them to be more sexually continent. But for Rees-Mogg, even though last year the state gave his mother-in-law £7.6 million to do up her ancestral home, there’s nothing but hushed admiration, and we can doubtless look forward to the imminent arrivals of Septimus, Octopus, Nonce and Declan.

To Rees-Mogg, teaching or nursing or working in the emergency services is not a job demanding pay. It’s a service, which can be repaid (or not) out of kindness. In his world, the matter of whether or not people should be paid enough so that they don’t have to visit food banks is not one of moral justice or economic necessity, but of a benevolent government displaying its kindness. You don’t need public servants if you can afford actual ones.

As an institution the EU is in parts undemocratic. You don’t, however, get to claim that democracy is the driving reason that you don’t want to be part of the EU if you’re happy to be part of a country with an unelected second house, a hereditary monarchy and heads of government who happily take meetings with media barons whenever possible. To retreat from the concept of active citizenship to the passive, docile, fawning position of the subject is not brave, it is fearful; it is not strong, it is weak; it is not a mark of a confident nation, but of one desperately afraid of the modern world.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg - eccentric toff, or just a nasty right-wing Tory?

Post by oftenwrong on Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:17 pm

Nothing to see here. Just another Tory Toff lining up for the big prize. It's what they are taught to do from birth.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:44 pm

In a letter to the Sunday Times today, a correspondent suggests that Jacob R-M would never be acceptable to the Tory party as its Leader. Because he is a Roman Catholic.

Interesting.
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Post by sickchip on Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:03 pm

Anybody with more than £1million should be disqualified from governing, and making decisions on behalf of the country. Why? Because they will still be comfortable whatever happens. It doesn't matter to Rees-Mogg, and the rest of his cronies in the Tory party, if we stay or leave. It won't impact on their lifestyles of good living.

Rees-Mogg, Boris, and the others, couldn't really give a shit. It's all just a bit of a game and a wheeze for them.

Anybody with more than £1million should be disqualified from governing - only then will we get governments who govern, and make decisions, for the good of us all.
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Post by Ivan on Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:49 pm

Jacob Rees-Mogg says rise in food bank use is 'rather uplifting'

The Tory MP insisted that rather than demonstrating the scale of poverty in the country, the development showed what a “good compassionate country we are”.

Food bank use is on the rise, with data from the Trussell Trust indicating the country’s food banks provided more than a million emergency food supplies to people last year.

Mr Rees-Mogg attributed the rise to the fact that people now “know they are there”. He said: “The real reason for the rise in numbers is because people know they are there and Labour refused to tell them.”


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Post by boatlady on Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:36 pm

Anybody with more than £1million should be disqualified from governing - only then will we get governments who govern, and make decisions, for the good of us all.

might work at that
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:04 am

Don't do as I do - just do as I say.
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:27 pm

The British electorate should uplift him on the toe of its collective boot.
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"...Jacob R-M would never be acceptable to the Tory party as its Leader. Because he is a Roman Catholic."

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An extract from a Facebook blog by Frankie Boyle:-

"Step forward Jacob Rees-Mogg, a composite figure drawn from the nightmares of 18th century millworkers. He looks like a Punch cartoon of the first giraffe in England. It might be quite apposite for the present state of things to have Britain led by a man who looks like he’s slowly walking it to a graveyard.

Rees-Mogg is the MP for NE Somerset (he got in on a platform of 'Ooooooh, inne tall!?') and belongs to a group of people for whom the phrase 'Is the Pope Catholic?' is genuinely a matter for debate. Hats off to him for trying to bring religion into Conservatism, a movement largely based on coveting. His comments about abortion were probably fairly uncontroversial in elite Tory circles; rape and incest are the reason their family lines have made it this far. I mean if you want to live your life by the bible it’s quite clear that God didn’t want his son aborted, but you should be torturing your children to death around age thirty three.
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