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Post by Redflag on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:28 am

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So says Boris Johnson, he thinks it's a leftie thing; have I got news for Boris, it's also a Tory thing, he needs to cast his mind back to 1990 when the Tory party of the day KNIFED their so called great leader Mrs Thatcher right between the shoulder blades and ousted her as PM.
 
Going by his past deeds he might not shaft his brother but would he shaft his brother's wife? There is enough scandal in all parties for Boris to start throwing stones when he lives in a GLASS HOUSE. He also accuses Ed Miliband devoid of ties to society where oh where is the Tory big society now? Nowhere to be seen, it went when the PR factor went, in the same interview he is giving his own brother Jo the OK to go for the PMs job his best school buddy - are they getting ready to stab Cameron in the back ?
 
At the moment he is on holiday in the Northern Territory of Austrailia. He'd better watch himself, the large salty crocs enjoy the odd humane for their tea and Steve Irwin is not there to save him.
 
As he is not doing a good job for the people of London, I would think instead of shutting police offices and fire stations attend to the business that the people of London are paying him too do would be a better use of his time.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Phil Hornby on Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:46 am

My guess is that it will be Ed Miliband being replaced after May 2015. But by whom? 

 Even if Labour were to win outright, can we imagine the levels of sabotage to which the Tories and their friends would subject the nation? They would not go quietly.

I could see us having to endure an endless barrage of newspaper etc.propaganda until the 'unfavoured' government found it just too difficult to continue.

In short, one way or another we are stuck with a Tory- flavoured nation - at least until such time as there is a truly compelling and convincing opposition figure around whom to congregate. And say what you like, folks - Tony Blair , for all his faults - provided just that in 1997...

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Post by Ivan on Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:52 am

Even if Labour were to win outright, can we imagine the levels of sabotage to which the Tories and their friends would subject the nation?
I read on Twitter that the Tories have been extending the NHS contracts which they dished out to their cronies until the year 2025. The idea is to make it near impossible (or at least very expensive) for a Labour government to undo all the damage that these evil bastards have been doing for the last four years.  Twisted Evil
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:29 pm

IVAN Can I say there is more than one way to "Skin a Cat"   Even if it means taking back what belongs to the people of the UK, or we could use our Criminal Law against the Chunt & Landsley I am quite certain the people of the UK would back the Labour gov't to the hilt.

If none of these work we can always make sure that they follow there contract to the letter if not FINE THEM squeese them until they give there contracts up, I would also say do the same to the franchise contracts for our trains.   I do have a few ideas to do with our gas & electricity supplies to get them back into public ownership away from the greedy Backstuds (big six) that I will reveal for the first time I get a chance to have a quiet word with Ed Balls. stirpot 
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by oftenwrong on Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:10 pm

Boris is keeping EU trade with London in business by the purchase of Water-cannon from Germany ....
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....and by relieving TfL of any further responsibility for all those underused car-charging points. A French company is assuming charge.

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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:39 am

Thanks for the info Ivan with living in Scotland I do not get to hear the news, although I do get the Daily Mirror most days which does help to keep me up date, the photo just goes to prove "YOU CAN NOT TRUST WHAT COMES OUT OF THE GOB OF ANY TORY specially just before an Election. headbang
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:17 pm

London's burning, London's burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
Fire fire, Fire Fire!
Pour on water, pour on water.

London's burning, London's burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
Fire fire, Fire Fire!
Pour on water, pour on water.

London's burning, London's burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:53 am

Ivan wrote:Has this been reported in the media?  No 
 
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As we both know Ivan it hasn't been reported by the media, but maybe you should put this on TWITTER so that it will go right around the UK to let the people know that the Tories are not just shutting down OUR public services they are selling off the land they stood on, I can make a wild guess and say they will be sold off to friends and donors of the Tory party. headbang
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:54 am

I thought we kinda hope that the Opposition might be good enough to keep such matters at the forefront of the public's consciousness.

If it's not too much trouble, of course...      Crying or Very sad
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:52 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:I thought we kinda hope that the Opposition might be good enough to keep such matters at the forefront of the public's consciousness.

If it's not too much trouble, of course...      Crying or Very sad

Good point PH but is it possible that the Labour party do not know about this we know how sneaky and underhand the Tories are, and are experts when it come to slight of hand. bomb 
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by bobby on Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:09 pm

Quite frankly, if the Labour party knew nothing of the closure then the potential sell off of our fire stations, they wouldn't deserve to be in opposition let alone in Government.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:30 am

I think you are being a bit UNFAIR to the Labour party bobby, you know how good the Tories are at turning the spotlight off themselves and put it onto the skivers & scroungers or even the immigrants anyone but themselves.   I will say when the Labour gov't get into gov't in May 2015 they are in for a bloody Shock at what they will find underneath all the froth. headbang
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by bobby on Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:31 pm

Red There is no way the Labour party wouldn't have been aware of the fire station closures as it would have to have gone through a GLC committee which would have included Labour members of the Council. Heres a list of the London closures:
Belsize, Bow, Clerkenwell, Downham, Kingsland, Knightsbridge, Silvertown, Southwark, Westminster and Woolwich.
Take for example Westminster Fire Station, Bridge Street Westminster. From the entrance turn left, after a few yards the street name changes to Gt Peter Street, at the end of Gt Peter Street turn left at the River Thames, walk about 50 yds and you will find yourself at the houses of Parliament.
Imho there is no way that the Labour Party knew or know nothing about the closures unless of course they walk around with their eyes firmly shut.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:55 pm

I agree with you upto a certain point, yes they would know about the closures but would they know these buildings were being sold off ??   You and I know just how sneaky the Tories are and how they like to hide bad news under anything they can bury it under. deadhorse
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Post by Ivan on Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:24 pm

Shafting the taxpayers - London’s lazy, hypocritical and part-time mayor
 
The media and the Tories have been transfixed by the question of whether Boris Johnson will stand for Parliament at the next election. But one person who doesn't think it would make any difference is Ken Livingstone. He says: "It's no problem Boris being an MP and mayor because he doesn't do the mayor's job anyhow, so we won't notice the difference. He’s a fairly lazy tosser who just wants to be there."
 
Johnson has denounced the practice of working from home as a “skivers’ paradise”. This is what he said in 2012:-
 
"Some people will see the Olympic Games as an opportunity to work from home, in inverted commas. We all know that is basically sitting wondering whether to go down to the fridge to hack off that bit of cheese before checking your emails again. I don’t want to see too many of us doing that."
 
And this is what his predecessor Ken Livingstone has said recently:-
 
Almost all the dirt I get on Boris comes from the Tory members on the London Assembly. They're really angry because he's decided he's going to start working from home on Fridays.”
 
George Eaton writes:-
 
Whether working from home involves completing his planned biography of Churchill, plotting to stop George Osborne getting his hands on the Conservative leadership, or just gorging on cheese from the fridge, the revelation will only enhance the impression that Boris is a part-time mayor. One source close to City Hall said that he had never known the place to be so quiet."
 
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Thu May 01, 2014 1:57 pm

IVAN A lot of people seem to forget the difference between Ken Livingstone and Doris Johnston Ken is a Labour man and very used to a full days hard work, whereas Doris would be put on his back IF he had to do a hard days work but that is nothing new most of the Tory MPs would be affected the same way if they ever managed to do a hard days work, because none of them ever have or ever will do a hard days work in there natural
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Post by Redflag on Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:23 pm

Ivan wrote:I read on Twitter that the Tories have been extending the NHS contracts which they dished out to their cronies until the year 2025. The idea is to make it near impossible (or at least very expensive) for a Labour government to undo all the damage that these evil bastards have been doing for the last four years.  Twisted Evil

Surely there must be a way Ivan to get our NHS back from the Greedy Tory donors, one way would be to make sure they keep to the letter of there contract and when they do not FINE THEM, and keep doing this when they stop making money they will give up there contracts just like the Railways.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:09 pm

The British Parliamentary system could hardly be simpler. "First past the post" means that whichever Party has more votes than all the others can form a Government.

That's all you need to know. The Governing party makes the rules, and all the other parties are in the same place as the electorate - as spectators.

The most we can hope for from a Tory administration would be a benevolent dictatorship. Tell the waverers.

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Post by Ivan on Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:41 pm

"First past the post" means that whichever Party has more votes than all the others can form a Government.
It didn't work like that in 1951 or in February 1974, but it usually does. You actually need to have the most votes in more of the 650 constituencies than any other party. scratch 

Not sure what any of this has to do with Boris shafting his brother or anyone else though! confused
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:51 am

I would imagine Ivan that "Doris would Shaft" Anybody to get his feet under the desk of No10, and that includes stabbing his friend in the back but nothing new there from the Tories, so Scameron will face the same fate as Thatcher did in the 1990.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by oftenwrong on Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:47 pm

Ivan wrote:
"First past the post" means that whichever Party has more votes than all the others can form a Government.
It didn't work like that in 1951 or in February 1974, but it usually does. You actually need to have the most votes in more of the 650 constituencies than any other party. scratch 

Put it down to brain fade, Guv!  I should have written "seats", not "votes" but I got a sudden attack of me twinges again.  Probably the weather.  Sad
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by bobby on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:02 pm

MSN News today. About Boris Johnson.
"He remains behind David Cameron in terms of who would make the best prime minister"

Well lets face it, not even the arse-wipe Boris Johnson could stab Herr Cameron in the back if he where to stand in front of the Prime Minister
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Post by Redflag on Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:24 am

You surprise me bobby you know what the Tories are capable of, Doris will stab Scameron in the back quick enough he is desperate to have the job of PM.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by bobby on Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:28 am

Red. If you re-read my post you should get the gist of what I said.
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Post by Redflag on Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:53 pm

Sorry Bobby I mis-read your post, but think there is NO HONOUR among thieves and the Tories are the biggest thieves going.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Ivan on Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:54 pm

Boris Johnson U-Turns Over Heathrow Plans In Bid To Be Uxbridge MP

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"Boris Johnson has backed down over his proposal to close Heathrow Airport, suggesting that it could continue to exist as a secondary airport alongside his beloved four-runway 'Boris Island' hub on the Thames Estuary.

His change of tack in the airport debate is conveniently timed, as he is vying to be MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, an area of London that would be affected by the job closures resulting from Heathrow's closure
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Post by Ivan on Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:34 am

Johnson may not shaft his brother, but he never ceases to come up with stupid ideas for shafting taxpayers.

“Time and public money should never have been spent on his vanity project whose costs have been put at up to £100 billion.” (Mary Creagh)

Responding to the Davies Airport Commission announcing they will not be proceeding with the Isle of Grain airport, Labour’s shadow transport secretary, Mary Creagh, said:-

Boris Johnson’s fantasy island airport plan which would have closed Heathrow and caused longer passenger journeys has finally been dashed. Time and public money should never have been spent on his vanity project whose costs have been put at up to £100 billion. This back of a fag packet scheme was designed less for the country’s economic future and more for the omnishables Mayor’s political ambitions.”

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We had millions wasted on Johnson’s vanity projects – new Routemaster buses and a cable car over the Thames – and now his sudden U-turn on Heathrow to gain favour with the voters of Uxbridge shows that he’s nothing more than a self-seeking opportunist and charlatan. We can but hope that this rejection of ‘Boris Island’ will be the first step towards this island rejecting Boris.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Redflag on Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:36 am

Doris like Gove wants to go down in history Doris with his airport Gove with his Education for those who's parents have the money to either pay for private education or can afford to pay for a tutor so there kids can extra tution, this rings a bell with me so I will add Alec Salmond who wants his name in the history books as the first President or Prime Minister of Scotland.
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Post by boatlady on Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:32 pm

Oh Red - does this mean you'll be voting NO ?
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Post by Redflag on Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:25 pm

Boatlady I will be voting a big FAT NO and before anybody says anything let me enlighten you all regarding Alec Salmond he is a Cameron mark II, our NHS is being privatized just as much as the NHS is in England by Salmond leader of the SNP party and I know this for a fact at the end of May beginning of June I was in hospital for a week the first ward I was in was FILTHY never seen a cleaner in 3 days plus they came into the ward I was in (4 bed ward ) and put a Chest tube into the lady in the bed facing me they where talking her through it so we all heard what was going on this should have been done in a treatment room. The only decent medfical person on my ward was the ward doctor the nurses where they type you have seen in the newspapers or on the tv news that are looking after older people in homes and abusing them, if I had not been moved to another ward by the ward doctor I would have signed myself out and my family where right behind me on this.
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:47 pm

So it's official - BoJo has been formally selected to stand for election in the Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat next May. Could be a nail in Cameron's coffin, and another could be pending the result of next Thursday's vote in Scotland.

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Post by Redflag on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:13 am

You know the same as me OW Tories are noted for stabbing one another in the back, just look at what Carswell did jump ship to Ukip and you can bet a £ to a penny there would be more than just winning his seat back in Clacton in it for him. I just wonder how the Tories will react when Carswell turns up in the HOC as a Ukip MP??
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Post by boatlady on Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:18 am

It's hard to resist the notion that Cameron's days as head of the Tory party may be numbered - seems good news until you look at the crew of scurvy knaves salivating for his position
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Post by Redflag on Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:32 pm

I agree boatlady and Doris keeps denying that he is not after Scamerons job typical LYING Tory, he is desperate to get his feet into DC shoes, and will if push comes to shove he will stab Cameron in the back to get the top job.
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Post by boatlady on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:47 pm

The vultures are certainly circling - and Cameron looks more and more like dead meat
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Post by Ivan on Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:11 pm

This post is about Boris getting shafted…..  Laughing

The USA has a law that all US citizens, including those with dual citizenship, are legally obliged to file a tax return and liable to pay US taxes, wherever they are living, even if the income is earned abroad. Apparently, Boris Johnson was born in New York and, although he hasn’t lived there since he was five years old, he did apply for and does hold a US passport. He’s now been hit by a US demand for capital gains tax on a house he sold in London - and he’s not happy!

Johnson says he’s going to refuse to pay. Let’s hope he does; maybe the US could get an extradition order and take the lazy, lying git off our hands. Of course he could always give up his US citizenship, but according to some of the reader comments beneath the source, that’s easier said than done, and I’m sure he’d first be required to pay any outstanding tax demands. Or he could just pay up; the amount demanded by the US is probably just “chicken feed” to a man with his vast income and wealth.

The article also mentions this: “Johnson has continually pressed the US embassy to pay unpaid fines it has incurred for the congestion charge. The embassy has refused to do so, claiming the charge is a tax and therefore its diplomats are immune. During a visit to the UK by Barack Obama in 2011, Johnson reportedly asked him for a £5 million cheque for unpaid congestion charges but the US ambassador intervened before the president could answer.”

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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by oftenwrong on Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:33 am

Oh! The irony.

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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Ivan on Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:48 am

Let’s bury this ‘back–stabbing Miliband’ myth

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I’m not sure how I managed to miss the fact that leadership of the Labour Party is a hereditary position. Apparently, Labour hasn’t even got round to abolishing the rule of primogeniture, as the defence secretary, Michael Fallon, reminded us. Fallon suggested that Ed Miliband “stabbed his own brother in the back”, appearing to suggest that modern political parties operate a line of succession similar to the royals.

According to this hitherto unknown rule, David Miliband’s expectation that he would become Labour leader was no less solid than the Prince of Wales’s claim to the throne; Ed’s challenge was a constitutional outrage, a bit like the Duke of York suddenly announcing he’d like to have a go after his mum dies. The whole point of male primogeniture is that it’s an immovable thing, ensuring that the firstborn son smoothly assumes his rightful place when his turn comes round.

Whatever happened to equality? There is no logical reason why the elder Miliband son should have had a clear run at the Labour leadership; the whole thing could just as easily be rephrased to ask why David stabbed his younger brother in the back. To be clear, I don’t think that makes sense either, and I’m amazed that anyone should think in such Old Testament terms in the 21st century. We no longer live in that pre-modern world, even if some Tories pretend not to have noticed. Whether we are talking about the Miliband brothers or anyone else, hereditary privilege has no place in modern political parties.


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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by boatlady on Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:39 am

You know, for some time I wondered if there actually had been some dirty work at the crossroads, bribery or such - so insistent has been the claim that Ed 'shafted' his elder brother.

Yet, it seems that, in common with all competitions, several people, including the Miliband brothers, put themselves forward for the leadership and, following an election where I don't believe anyone was at all nobbled, the younger brother was elected - sad of course for those who think the elder brother might have done the job better - but obviously enough people on the day thought Ed had the better claim.

I guess he could be said to have 'shafted' David in the same sense that I 'shafted' the other applicants last time I successfully applied for a job
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Post by Penderyn on Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:21 pm

boatlady wrote:I guess he could be said to have 'shafted' David in the same sense that I 'shafted' the other applicants last time I successfully applied for a job

I've never applied for a job my brother was in for, however, though it would have been entirely legal.
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Post by stuart torr on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:24 pm

I really do not think it matters who has labour leaders job at this moment in time, we will find out if it mattered on may8th, then if labour do badly everyone will be saying it should have been his brother as leader.
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Re: Boris: "I would not shaft my brother"

Post by Ivan on Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:20 pm

Boris Johnson may not have shafted his brother, but he certainly knows how to shaft the people of London. He promised to end homelessness in the capital by 2012, but it has doubled since he took office in 2008. He also promised a “manned ticket office at every Tube station”, and here he is signing a petition against ticket office closures:-

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Johnson has now closed all the manned ticket offices at London Tube stations.
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