Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)

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boatlady wrote:The face I want to kick

 
Get into the queue boatlady, there are a few million others awaiting to do more than kick him in the face, some would want to hang up up by his B****CKS, myself I would rather like to force him to do a REAL hard days work like cleaning public toilets with a toothbrush  

Those whom The Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

Is the Thatcher tradition being carried on by her successors?

Ivan wrote:David Cameron's constituency office calls police on food bank campaigners Bishop of Oxford and Reverend Keith Hebden
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-constituency-office-calls-police-on-food-bank-campaigners-bishop-of-oxford-and-reverend-keith-hebden-9274303.html

 
Hope you do not mind Ivan this is an article in todays Daily Mirror it completes what you have said in your post.
 
HANDOUTS UP IN PMs TOWN
 
A food bank in David Cameron's constituency has had a major surge in handouts in recent months, its founder warned yesterday. The market town of Witney Oxon, is a few miles from where the "Chipping Norton set" enjoy lavish dinner parties and soirees. But clients at the Oxfordshire West Food Bank there have doubled this year. Founder Jo Cypher said Its the highest level since we started two years ago.  I did'nt expect it to get to this but the cost of living is up and benefits are being cut. 

Jo Cypher is a woman WHO according to Davy boy had met the man that runs the food bank in Witney which had been in existence for years two BLATANT LIES in a matter of one sentence. 

Please Mr Cameron, can we have some more?
 
Extracts from an article by Fleet Street Fox:-
 
"Deep in Middle England there stands a church hall. It is at the centre of a rural town, the sort of place where the wealthiest people are all outsiders who've made their money elsewhere. There are houses with vast gardens and spanking-clean Chelsea tractors everywhere. There's a Waitrose where all the best people shop. Barristers live here, newspaper editors, politicians, racehorse owners. So why are people queuing up to use a food bank in the church hall?

On the edge of this rural town lives one of those who wasn't born here, who moved in and helped to push up the cost of living for everyone else. He earns £142,500 a year in his main job and gets another £60,000 or so every year from renting out a London house he owns mortgage-free. For several years he got £21,000 a year from the taxpayer to help him live in this rural town.

He visited the food bank at the church hall last year, but he didn't want to talk to any of the people who had to use it. Since then he has claimed food banks were all someone else's fault. He ignored a group of 27 bishops and 16 faith leaders who told him the need for food banks were down to his own failings at work, and when two priests tried to pass him a letter about hungry people his staff called the police.

Then this man said he was a Christian. He said he was a man of faith, that this country was a land of Christian values. The man is David Cameron. The rural town is Witney in Oxfordshire, the centre of his own constituency."
 
For the whole article:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/food-bank-use-doubles-pms-3455872#.U1qmYt8Aw1B

Good article - and in a large circulation paper - maybe the tide is turning a bit?
Perhaps soon we'll see this kind of thing in the Sun - then we'll know things have changed

Would you like to hear Cameron making the understatement of the decade? In this interview, he tells Jon Snow that his government "hasn't got everything right"...........   
 
http://www.channel4.com/news/david-cameron-migrants-immigration-economy-video

Doctors have identified a new illness. It's called 'Wearing High Visibility Jackets And Hard Hats For No Apparent Reason Syndrome'.   
 

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 'giggle'

I always wonder, how do they get the people in these photos to look so cheerful?
If I was being photographed with oily Dave, I'd have a face like a smacked bum!! 

They are probably buoyed and amused by the fact that they pocket as much in a week as he gets in a year... 

Remember when Cameron met the winners of the England Cricket Team (after their having just won the T20 World Cup)? MASSIVE sports fan Cameron thought the team captain and England stalwart Paul Collingwood was actually called Colin Wood. No, really. I bet he just loves football as well. What an absolute shyster.

All the funnier for not being a million miles from the truth.

"Explain that again, Steven. You got this job entirely on your own ability without any help from your daddy?"
 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BozwGENCYAAp6vO.jpg

We can but hope that Cameron 'does a Gerrard' and slips at the vital moment as Miliband runs through on goal next May... and it will probably take that for Ed to 'score'...  

Does anyone like Cameron? This is what the Tory journalist Tim Montgomerie wrote about him in ‘The Times’ in May 2013:-
 
“Spend most of your time as Tory leader ignoring the issue that matters most to your activist members: Europe. Launch your bid to be leader by promising a tax allowance for married couples and then, once you’ve won power, fail to deliver that pledge at four successive Budgets. Tell parents that they can set up any school they want as long as it’s not the one they most want, a grammar school. Stop Gordon Brown holding a honeymoon election in 2007 by promising to abolish inheritance tax but then put it up in office. Spend the election campaign talking about an issue that no one understands — the Big Society — and don’t talk about immigration, an issue that 75% of voters do care about. Subsidise expensive renewable energies at a time when families are struggling to pay their electricity bills. Form a coalition with the Lib Dems even though 80% of your members want you to lead a minority government. Promise not to reorganise the NHS, then reorganise it anyway. Oppose press regulation but then embrace it. Pledge to tackle European human rights laws but do nothing when Abu Qatada proves again and again that Britain is run by inventive lawyers rather than democratically-drafted laws. Insist you want to reach out to northern and poorer parts of Britain but stuff your Downing Street operation with southern chums who attended the same elite private schools as you. And, just for good measure, insult people who normally vote for your party as clowns, fruitcakes and closet racists.”
 
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2014/05/the-ten-creators-of-ukip.html

Ivan wrote:Does anyone like Cameron? ....
 
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2014/05/the-ten-creators-of-ukip.html

Cameron is not there to be "liked", except coincidentally. He is the pretty face of some very unattractive people whose only interest is preservation of their privilege. So far, he hasn't done badly by them.

If the UK were stupid enough to vote Tory at the 2015 general election OW he would make sure that the privileged few would do even better.

(oldhamvoice)_

" Suddenly, some of my best friends are Iranian..."

Redflag wrote:If the UK were stupid enough to vote Tory at the 2015 general election OW he would make sure that the privileged few would do even better.

Never underestimate the power and appeal of stupidity!

Not when Blue Labour are doing what seems their level best to shoot themselves in the foot on a near daily basis.

I think we underestimate a tory victory at our peril. God help us if that comes true!

oftenwrong wrote:

Ivan wrote:Does anyone like Cameron? ....
 
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2014/05/the-ten-creators-of-ukip.html

Cameron is not there to be "liked", except coincidentally. He is the pretty face of some very unattractive people whose only interest is preservation of their privilege. So far, he hasn't done badly by them.

shrewd. i agree entirely.

ghost whistler wrote:Never underestimate the power and appeal of stupidity!

Not when Blue Labour are doing what seems their level best to shoot themselves in the foot on a near daily basis.

I think we underestimate a tory victory at our peril. God help us if that comes true!

I do agree with your post GW, where I disagree is we do not know how Ed Miliband would proceed if the UK have the good sense to put a Labour gov't into power in May 2015, but we all have good imagination to work out what the Tories will do if England votes them back into power in 2015. The reason I mentioned England is Scotland does not VOTE Tory 18 years of Thatcher was more than enough for us Scots, it also worries me that if Scots get a sniff that England will vote the Tories back into power in May 2015 they WILL VOTE TO LEAVE the UK on the 18th September 2014 HENCE CUTTING OFF THEIR NOSE TO SPITE THEIR FACE.

I do believe that more Scots do NOT want to leave the UK but will think voting Yes is the lesser of the two evils. 

It's all very well for Scots to vote upon independence from a Tory Westminster, but I'd like to vote for that too, please.

oftenwrong wrote:It's all very well for Scots to vote upon independence from a Tory Westminster, but I'd like to vote for that too, please.

I would watch what you wish for OW, Salmond and the SNP where the ones that brought down the Labour gov't in 1979 and gave us 18 years of Thatcher, that and he has LIED to the Scots about legal advice he was supposed to have about Scotlands chance of rejoining the EU if we divorce the UK.

But as I have said before if Scots get a sniff that England will vote the Tories back into power or another coalition of Tories & any other party in May 2015 they will against there better judgement vote Yes and as you have heard there will be no way back for Scotland. Salmond will not tell us what he has in store for Scotland if we vote Yes, I myself think he will sell Scotland to the highest bidder and that includes the EFFING Tories because underneath all that is what Salmond is an EFFING Tory.  

This hasn't been a good week for call-me-Dave, ending with the arrest of a colleague of some thirty years on kiddie-porn charges.
Prior to that his former friend and Press Secretary Andy Coulson had been found guilty of conspiring to hack phones, any friends left in Europe deserted him, but nobody thought he could keep any of his promises about British disagreements with Brussels.

Roll on May 2015.

I am just wondering when we will know how the UK will vote in the general election in May 2015? I know we will not know for definite but a rough idea would suit me fine. I suppose the coming weeks will give us a clue on how people will vote, with what has went on in the EU yesterday that might turn people to vote Ukip (Heaven forbid) in May 2015 allowing a Tory & Ukip coalition that would be DISASTEROUS for the people of the UK, but it would show the people who voted Ukip exactly what they are "NO DIFFERENT TO THE TORIES"

oftenwrong wrote:This hasn't been a good week for call-me-Dave, ending with the arrest of a colleague of some thirty years on kiddie-porn charges.
Prior to that his former friend and Press Secretary Andy Coulson had been found guilty of conspiring to hack phones, any friends left in Europe deserted him,  but nobody thought he could keep any of his promises about British disagreements with Brussels.

Roll on May 2015.

A bit presumptous. It was known some time ago Cameron would lose the vote. Some of the others agree that the EU needs changing. They just do not see it Camerons way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28069366

trevorw2539 wrote:

oftenwrong wrote:This hasn't been a good week for call-me-Dave, ending with the arrest of a colleague of some thirty years on kiddie-porn charges.
Prior to that his former friend and Press Secretary Andy Coulson had been found guilty of conspiring to hack phones, any friends left in Europe deserted him,  but nobody thought he could keep any of his promises about British disagreements with Brussels.

Roll on May 2015.

A bit presumptous. It was known some time ago Cameron would lose the vote. Some of the others agree that the EU needs changing. They just do not see it Camerons way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28069366

This will be a gift for those Tory MPs that want us out of the EU, I tend to think they will force scameron to have the referendum on in-out of the EU well before 2017 more than likely in this term of office.

It will be one way of getting folk to vote Tory at the 2015 general election because there is many people that want to see us out of the EU.

Think again. Cameron doesn't want us out of the EU, he knows the advantages of being in a 'modified' Europe. Neither do I think he will have a referendum before the election. He can't be certain of the outcome of a referendum even with opinion polls. A properly put case for remaining in the EU, I believe, would change many peoples minds. Opinion polls give the gut reaction of most people to questions, not necessarily considered opinions.

Redflag Yesterday at 11:52 am
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I am just wondering when we will know how the UK will vote in the general election in May 2015?

I'm voting Labour - a bit of a slow way to answer your question though, I suppose.
Even if I were not convinced on the policies etc, I don't see a viable alternative at present

trevorw2539 wrote:Think again. Cameron doesn't want us out of the EU, he knows the advantages of being in a 'modified' Europe. Neither do I think he will have a referendum before the election. He can't be certain of the outcome of a referendum even with opinion polls. A properly put case for remaining in the EU, I believe, would change many peoples minds. Opinion polls give the gut reaction of most people to questions, not necessarily considered opinions.

It will not be Scameron but his back benchers that make the decision whether or not we have the referendum earlier that what he has already spouted trevor2539, the Tory MPs are just like 2-3 year olds when they do not get there own way they throw a Tantrum. The way the Tories have brain washed the UK public about the immigrants been the ones responsible for the cuts and austerity shortage of public housing ect.

It was a back bencher that brought in a private members bill that forced Scameron to announce the referendum on in-out of the EU in 2017 IF we allow him back into power in May 2015.  

boatlady wrote:Redflag Yesterday at 11:52 am
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I am just wondering when we will know how the UK will vote in the general election in May 2015?

I'm voting Labour - a bit of a slow way to answer your question though, I suppose.
Even if I were not convinced on the policies etc, I don't see a viable alternative at present

So will I be voting Labour in May 2015 boatlady, if which is a big IF, Scots vote NO on the 18th September 2014. Which is the reason for my post of yesterday you seem to forget if Scots cut off there nose to spite there face it will leave the rest of the UK with a permanant Tory gov't something I would not wish on my friends and family in the rest of the UK.  

I really hope Scots vote NO - I think UK would be much the poorer without the Scots on board, and, as you say, we are much more likely to have another Tory government without the Scottish vote in May 2015.

Having said that, I'm not surprised your countrymen are tempted - slightly tempted to emigrate myself at present

I agree boatlady the Scots would be worse off without the rest of the UK, I have been tempted to vote Yes but cannot trust Alex Salmond in what he says as he has been caught lying to the people of Scotland and he left his deputy to face the questions.

The world appears to be going through a bit of a crisis - it's hard to stay hopeful at present

When Ed Miliband comes out with another good policy my hopefullness rises that he is starting to listen and understand just how people of the UK are feeling about the Labour party, because I know that Ed will make a fine PM and a great leader of the country but most of all a "FAIR for all Country" quite unlike what the Tory led gov't we have at present boatlady. The only people this gov't cares about is there own which is City of London bankers hedge fund managers and there ilk who pour thousands into the Tory party coffers.

That is why I am glad to hear the news today to hear Len McCluskey will support the Labour party financially on the run up to the 2015 general election because they are going to need it to fight the Nasty and Dirty underhand tricks this Tory led gov't will play anything rather than be known as the "One Term Firm".

In the 'Will I be Elected?' Stakes,being supported publicly by Len McCluskey is akin to being handed a huge cupful of hemlock and taking a large gulp...        

The Labour Party is a centre-left political party in the United Kingdom. It grew out of the trade union movement and socialist political parties of the nineteenth century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)

Point taken, naturally - but Joe Public gets a little nervous these days about a Party which is too wedded to a grouping which is all-too-easily associated with the problems of the 1970s.

It's bad enough for Miliband to suffer constant attacks from Fleet Street's finest without actually having a target painted on his back...

Phil Hornby wrote:Point taken, naturally - but Joe Public gets a little nervous these days about a Party which is too wedded to a grouping which is all-too-easily associated with the problems of the 1970s.

It's bad enough for Miliband to suffer constant attacks from Fleet Street's finest without actually having a target painted on his back...

But the people do not get too nervous when told that the Tory party is funded by the very people that caused the Financial crash of 2008 PH, bankers ahd hedge fund managers not forgetting those Tory donors that hide there money in an off shore account so they do not have to pay there RIGHTFULL AMOUNT of tax.