Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)

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boatlady wrote:The face I want to kick

 
Get into the queue boatlady, there are a few million others awaiting to do more than kick him in the face, some would want to hang up up by his B****CKS, myself I would rather like to force him to do a REAL hard days work like cleaning public toilets with a toothbrush  

In 1556, seventeen Protestants were murdered - burned in barrels - in Lewes in East Sussex on the orders of Mary Tudor, who was the Catholic wife of Philip II of Spain. Since 1858, five Lewes bonfire societies have remembered this event on 5 November every year. Effigies are burned of Guy Fawkes, Pope Paul V and one or two other people. Last year that included Alex Salmond, but who are they burning tonight?


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I think that the people of Lewes have the right attitde, it will always remind davy boy that REMEMBER REMEMBER making sure that davy boy NEVER forgets what the majority of people think of Davy boy.

Those citizens must be spoilt for choice - the item of vermin, Duncan Smith, would be near the top of my list....if not at its pinnacle...

It has came out that since Osborne was SLAPPED down by the HOL over tax credits, he has been trying to to get to the poor via Universal credits. Which proves that no matter what the poor will pay for what the bankers and hedge fund did in 2008.

Does it make you feel sick when you see the hypocrisy of Cameron laying a wreath at the Cenotaph and pretending to care about our dead soldiers? His evil government killed this one:-

Killed by benefits cuts: Starving soldier died 'as result of Iain Duncan Smith's welfare reform'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/killed-benefits-cuts-starving-soldier-3923771

Apparently IDS is locked in mortal combat with Gideon at the moment over threatened cuts to his pet "Universal Credit" masterplan.

With luck we might just get two birds with one stone there.

I hope what Osborne is now saying he will cut budgets by 30%, will bring the truth to the TUC and call a general strike that is the only thing that will bring AUSTERITY to an end. Its time that those that get paid thousands per year paid a lot more in tax to keep our NHS and other essential public services going instead of this gov't handing our public services over to there mates in the private sector.

With all due respect, Redflag, "General Strike" shares a similar validity with current talk of "Air Strikes" on ISIS in Syria.

The democratic process relies upon dialogue with people. Slow but often more effective than precipitate actions. The transition from British Empire to Commonwealth provides illustrations.

I think if you scutinise both OW you will see both are very different, General Strike could bring down this Tory gov't AIRSTRIKE on ISIS KILLS innocent people & by leaving this Tory gov't in place HAS killed Innocent people.

I suspect that Cameron would actually welcome a 'general strike' ( although it would not be possible to organise on the basis of the current level of travails in the country).

Think of the pleasure the Tories and the Murdoch Press would have in painting it as a picture of the future under Corbyn who would be accused of backing it even if he didn't.

It would also provide an excuse to introduce some even more authoritarian approaches to keeping the roughs in their perceived rightful place - ie under the Tory heel...

Sadly, Phil, I think you're right

PH I understand your point agasinst general strike and in part agree with you, as for the Tories bringing in more draconain laws against the Unions there has been no GS of late but the Tories are still bringing in LAWS to stop the Unions in fact today this will be debated in the HOC today. Because of the numbers in HOC more than likely it will become law thus tying the hands of the Unions to help there members.

This just about sums up the idiot Cameron's EU 'renegotiations'..........  


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Phil Hornby wrote:I suspect that Cameron would actually welcome a 'general strike' ( although it would not be possible to organise on the basis of the current level of travails in the country).

Think of the pleasure the Tories and the Murdoch Press would have in painting it as a picture of the future under Corbyn who would be accused of backing it even if he didn't.

It would also provide an excuse to introduce some even more authoritarian approaches to keeping the roughs in their perceived rightful place - ie under the Tory heel...

I watched the entire Trade Union Bill debate yesterday PH, and all it did was tell me the only answer to stop the Tories is general strike or we will have to depend on the House of Lords to stop this bill they way they stopped the Tax Credits bill. During the debate a Tory MP stood up and admitted this had to be done to finish off what the Tories did to the Unions in 80s.

If that does not send a shiver down your back nothing will PH, if this bill is brought into law there will be serious trouble on the streets across the UK.

Excellent article here that shows Cameron up as being both ignorant and arrogant.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/11/david-cameron-letter-cuts-oxfordshire

Please read this. I find it shocking, but unsurprising, that the press, and tv news have not reported this.

A golden opportunity for Corbyn to make hay - but will he take it?

I have friends who work in a Tory-run local authority and this would come as no surprise to them. Aside of liking ordering and applying cuts mercilessly ,the councillors are the first to weep those crocodile tears when the results of their actions are placed at their door by affected constituents - it must always be 'somebody else's fault.

Such are Tory politicians : bullying, ruthless and strutting arrogantly, but cowards and liars when the light is shone into the dark corners they inhabit. They make me sick - always have; always will...

The place that the Tory councillors are complaining PH is in Davy boys CONSTITUENCY of Witney, and the Tory councillors are not happy bunnies to say the least.

I think you under estimate Jermy Corbyn PH, I have noticed of late that JC is becoming a "Sly Old Fox" when it comes to the Tory traps, as they are desperate for JC to make the wrong move they will have to keep there hand on there butts a long time waiting for JC to slip up.

Redflag wrote:The place that the Tory councillors are complaining PH is in Davy boys CONSTITUENCY of Witney, and the Tory councillors are not happy bunnies to say the least....

Very true. Read all about it http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/cameron-accused-of-hypocrisy-over-letter-complaining-of-cuts/ar-CCfekx?li=AA59G2

I know ONE particular bunnie that will not be very happy this morning OW, I would also like to know how the people of Witney are feeling now that they know SOME of the truth about there MP.

Claudine Bobby is spot on because Davy boy will just turn his head and pretend nothing has happened, but it is time the people of Witney came out and refuse to allow Davy boy to get away with this one, or he will just continue on with even more cuts because he does not care about them only people that he cares about is his own OINKS and Tory donors.

Redflag. Witney is a Conservative stronghold. Most people there won't give a tinker's cuss about whether Cameron is a liar or a hypocrite. All that matters to them is that he wears a blue rosette, so they'll vote for him - or any other scumbag bearing the Conservative label - regardless of how they behave.

Sadly, many people on the left tend to be more extravagant with their votes; if the Labour candidate isn't 100% to their liking, they will vote for the Green Party or UKIP or the TUSC, or not vote at all. And that's how we end up with a vicious Tory government like this one, gaining power with the support of only 24.4% of the electorate.

The Witney constituency is a safe seat for the Conservative Party. Its first MP was Douglas Hurd, who served as a cabinet minister under both Margaret Thatcher and John Major, and stood down in 1997.  Hurd was succeeded by Shaun Woodward (with far fewer votes) at the 1997 general election. However, Woodward defected to the Labour Party in 1999, and Witney unexpectedly had a Labour MP. Woodward chose not to stand in Witney as a Labour candidate and moved to the Labour safe seat of St Helens South.

At the 2001 general election, David Cameron was elected as MP for Witney and has held the seat since then.

Ivan & OW I know what your saying is true but a few years back Witney voted in two Labour councillors, surely all the voters of Witney are not as unfeeling and uncaring as Davy boy. I know the Chipping Norton set are part of his constituents who the only time they would not vote for Davy boy if he made them pay there correct amount of tax.

If anyone was watching Dermot Murnaghan on sky 24 news channel you would have seen the right wing media come out and say they where the only ones that are giving the full story of what happened in Paris I say LYING BACKSTUDS this looks like the amount of right wing newspapers are falling and poor buggars the people of the UK are starting to see through the right wing media who get there TRIPE to print from Tory HQ.

"For the times, they are a' changing"

The amount of right wing newspapers are falling and poor buggars the people of the UK are starting to see through the right wing media who get there TRIPE to print from Tory HQ.

There you put your finger on one of the key changes introduced by digital social network channels, Redflag.  Google, Facebook, Twitter et al are valued at billions of Dollars on the stock exchange, yet neither make or sell anything.

Surfing the net often means waiting for your requested information page while it collects all the advertising it has been paid to show you as well.  That's what make the information "free".  The availability of this free reportage has had an inevitable consequence for the traditional printed newspaper.  Some of them have set up a parallel digital version, which however makes little money for the publisher.  A few charge a subscription for their online version, but the main beneficiaries are technical papers like the Financial Times.
Accessing the net through a "smart-phone" is not without cost, as you are charged for data downloaded to your screen (on top of any subscription you might have paid) and by time, so the slow appearance of adverts is pushing up the overall cost.  Enter the "ad-blocker" app which on the Iphone does what it says. The result is faster service at less cost, with battery-life extended.
Google makes £39billion a year from advertising, so anything which threatens that is not going to be popular from any business point of view.  Various other sites too, including TV catch-ups, will not download any information to a device with ad-blocking installed.

So where is "free" internet browsing going to come from in the future?

IVAN typical Tory mantra, in todays Daily Mirror it appears that Giddy-Up is going after housing benefit because he cannot cut tax credits the Tories are determined to make the poor pay for the B(W)ankers and hedge fund managers FRAUD

I have never spoke out against the Labour party but I must make an exception here, if Gordon Brown & Alistair Darling had sent the fraud squad into the banks & building societies and routed out the BACKSTUDS that defrauded the general public and put them before the courts MAYBE the Tories would not have a reason to shout for AUSTERITY for the poor and tax breaks for Tory donors & friends.

I thought the Liberal Party had been eliminated.

Great stuff, definitely a ROFLOL moment.

Since the days of Spitting Image, however, politicians have developed a carapace which is impervious to Satire and Irony, as you can tell from the way they appear to believe their own Public Relations output.

I wonder which one of the Labour MPs will bring this up at PMQs OW, let us hope we have one Labour MP that has got a strong backbone, and instead of running JC down would do better to fight the reall enemy ie Tories or the SNP will then rub the Labour parties nose in it.

If the Labour MPs do not stop trying to get rid of Jermy Corbyn and start fighting the real enemy the Tories, because all that will happen is the UK will get another Tory gov't in 2020, and it will not be them that have to suffer but the people that they profess to represent in the HOC. If this does happen it will not be just me that does not renew there Labour party membership and we will see the end of the Labour party.

Novelty acts rarely - if ever - make it big...

I have just spent the afternoon listening to a Labour opposition day debate on the economy, as you will imagine it was about next weeks spending reveiw but those on the gov't benches do not give "TWO FCUKS" for the people that put them into the HOC. I just hope they are willing to lose those seats before the next G.E. in 2020 because if Giddy-up stays on the same bend of taking from the poor to give to there "OFF SHORE ACCOUNT" donors & friends.

myself I would rather like to force him to do a REAL hard days work like cleaning public toilets with a toothbrush

Perhaps Cameron isn't the only moron from deep space. In what REAL place on the planet do REAL men clean public toilets with a toothbrush?

Following News of that Airliner for Tory Ministers....


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" How thoughtful - a gift from Mr Corbyn of a parachute personally packed by himself..."

marcolucco wrote:Perhaps Cameron isn't the only moron from deep space. In what REAL place on the planet do REAL men clean public toilets with a toothbrush?

Davy boy is not a MORON he is more like something from the depths of Hell that is urged on by his Paymasters the Rich & Wealthy across the world, I was being IRONIC in regards to cleaning toilets with a tooth brush the fact I was pointing out that ANY Tory forced to do a DECENT days work instead of sitting on there ASSES all day shuffling papers how about a day in one of the steel Foundaries that would sort the real workers from the weak willed no BACKBONE Tories marcolucco

Redflag wrote:Davy boy is not a MORON  

You are in danger of becoming a Tory, Redflag, if you start throwing compliments around.

Redflag wrote: ANY Tory forced to do a DECENT days work instead of sitting on their ASSES all day shuffling papers how about a day in one of the steel Foundaries that would sort the real workers from the weak willed no BACKBONE Tories

I think you are discriminating against white-collar workers, Redflag. Do you suppose that only Tories shuffle papers about?  If it is someone in the post of Prime Minister you are attacking then your suggestion would have equal force offered to Gordon Brown. And as Milton said of those who serve in restaurants - they also serve who only stand and wait. It takes all kinds to make the world spin round and though foundry workers may be of crucial importance, we mustn't forget others who lack physical strength. Have a bit of compassion, Redflag, or we'll start to think you want to send folk to Siberian Labour camps.

Your first line of your post "IS WISHFULL THINKING" marcolucco, I would cut both hands off WITHOUT ANISTHETIC before I would vote Tory. I tend to think you are on this forum trying to look for voters for the TORY party EFF OFF and go and peddle your DRIVEL else where, as far as I am concerned.

Let's try to keep it civil, eh?

boatlady wrote:Let's try to keep it civil, eh?

I am not sorry boatlady, marcolucco come on to a left wing forum looking for SUCKERS to vote Tory or even bigger SUCKERS to vote SNP. Just to let evey one know I am the PROUD CARD CARRYING Labour party member and always will be, and I neither voted for Ed Miliband or Jermy Corbyn but the majority of the Labour party did, and I except that the majority win just as if it was in the bloody general election. All on this forum know what I did on the run up to the G.E 2015 and will do the same for Jermy Corbyn so far he is the only Labour leader that is not Tory LITE no wonder we are now down from 258 (in 2010) to 232 in 2015, because I went around went to Hallam Sheffield Carlisle & Wirral West I heard on doorsteps why should I vote for Labour when all I will get is Tory Lite.