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Post by astradt1 Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies


The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Empty property is an insult to the homeless, and presumably the landlords mentioned are paying 20% of the rent received in personal income tax.

Aren't they?

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Post by Redflag Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:32 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Lucky it's not a council house, otherwise he'd have been docked £80 a week for any spare bedroom.

It just proves OW that Scam..er..on has still not cleaned up the expenses for MPs, if you read the Daily Mirror for the 21st/22nd Nov you will see a report on both Scam..er..on and Gideon are letting out there London homes while they are living in No10 & 11 Downing St and there rentals charges are enough to make our eyes water. From what I have read it looks like they are renting them out to other MPs.
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Post by Phil Hornby Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:44 pm

But who'd want to rent a property from either Cameron or Osborne? After all, there'd be all those skeletons in the cupboards... Shocked
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Post by Redflag Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:36 am

Phil Hornby wrote:But who'd want to rent a property from either Cameron or Osborne? After all, there'd be all those skeletons in the cupboards... Shocked

They are more than likely renting them out to other Tory MPs PH, who will stuff the cupboards with there own skeletons then maybe a GOOD reporter from one of our newspapers will find them out.
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Post by Ivan Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:26 pm

George Osborne secretly included a horses' paddock on his Commons expenses

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-included-a-horses-paddock-1477294#.UMJZqXtsLsw.twitter
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Post by Redflag Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:54 pm

Ivan wrote:George Osborne secretly included a horses' paddock on his Commons expenses

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-included-a-horses-paddock-1477294#.UMJZqXtsLsw.twitter

I tend to think Ivan they have the "BRASS NECK" to claim for anything they want, it makes me wonder why oh why do we the tax payer pay their high salaries, normal people have to pay their rent/mortgage food and travel expenses to work "WHY THE FCUK DO MPs NOT" think that their salaries go into bank accounts (maybe off shore)??
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Post by blueturando Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:46 pm

George Osborne secretly included a horses' paddock on his Commons expenses

Ive heard he is taking Margeret Moran out for a ride to help her overcome her depression....once she leaves the pub that is Smile

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Post by Redflag Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:09 pm

blueturando wrote:
George Osborne secretly included a horses' paddock on his Commons expenses

Ive heard he is taking Margeret Moran out for a ride to help her overcome her depression....once she leaves the pub that is Smile

If he wants to keep a horse he should be paying for that himself out of his salary, or his trust fund blue, if not we should all be getting the tax payer to pay our rent/mortgage.
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Post by blueturando Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:39 pm

Agreed Redflag....with every word

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Post by Redflag Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:02 pm

blueturando wrote:Agreed Redflag....with every word


THANK YOU VERY MUCH BLUE
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Post by Ivan Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:00 am

Senior David Cameron aide accused of threatening newspaper over Maria Miller investigation

"One of David Cameron’s most senior aides has been accused of threatening a national newspaper over an investigation it was conducting into the Culture Secretary Maria Miller.

Craig Oliver, the Prime Minister’s Director of Communications, is alleged to have implicitly warned the Daily Telegraph that its probe into Ms Miller’s expenses could have a bearing on the government’s final response to Lord Justice Leveson’s report on press standards."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/senior-david-cameron-aide-accused-of-threatening-newspaper-over-maria-miller-investigation-8411754.html
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Post by Redflag Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:21 am

Ivan wrote:Senior David Cameron aide accused of threatening newspaper over Maria Miller investigation

"One of David Cameron’s most senior aides has been accused of threatening a national newspaper over an investigation it was conducting into the Culture Secretary Maria Miller.

Craig Oliver, the Prime Minister’s Director of Communications, is alleged to have implicitly warned the Daily Telegraph that its probe into Ms Miller’s expenses could have a bearing on the government’s final response to Lord Justice Leveson’s report on press standards."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/senior-david-cameron-aide-accused-of-threatening-newspaper-over-maria-miller-investigation-8411754.html

Using blackmail to hush the newspapers who needs statue law when we have a bloody Tory gov't, this story says it all Ivan no wonder the decent newspapers do not want statue law to govern them.
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Post by blueturando Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:23 pm

Senior David Cameron aide accused of threatening newspaper over Maria Miller investigation

The aid should be fired and Miller investigated and if need be, prosecuted

This one of the reasons I have big doubts on whether statutory powers are needed to control the press as already we are seeing politicians threatening the rights of the free press to print anything that would damage those in high places

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Post by Redflag Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:15 pm

blueturando wrote:
Senior David Cameron aide accused of threatening newspaper over Maria Miller investigation

The aid should be fired and Miller investigated and if need be, prosecuted

This one of the reasons I have big doubts on whether statutory powers are needed to control the press as already we are seeing politicians threatening the rights of the free press to print anything that would damage those in high places

It was not just the aide that did the threatening a SPIN doctor in No10 tried to blackmail the daily Telegraph about the leveson report so hoping they would not print the story and let the whole of the UK know just what the Tories are doing while we all starve. They are fiddling the taxpayers money, do not prosecute them kick them bloody out of office.
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Post by Ivan Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:08 pm

"Caught with his pants down: Tory MP who praised sanctity of marriage had an eleven-year affair”

by Alex Wellman

Tory MP Bob Blackman, who claimed marriage could only work between “one man and one woman”, has been exposed as a cheating husband. He had an 11-year affair behind his wife’s back, his former mistress has revealed.

Carol Shaw tells how he used to sneak away from home for regular Friday afternoon romps with her when they were both Tory councillors. She says they also had sex in his marital bed and at an office where he worked.

Carol kept a lid on their affair until the outspoken right-winger controversially waded into the debate on gay marriage earlier this month. After Blackman insisted marriage had to be “between one man and one woman”, his infuriated secret ex-lover decided enough was enough:-

“I couldn’t believe a man who had an affair with me for over 11 years could have the cheek to preach about the sanctity of marriage. You have to be squeaky clean to do that and he has made a mistake. Bob is an absolute hypocrite. He talks about marriage being between one man and one woman... but why does he not practise what he preaches?”


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bob-blackman-top-tory-mp-1492423#.UM3rT7nPPL0.twitter


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Post by Redflag Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:58 pm


They only know how to preach to the likes of us Plebs, typical Tory behaviour, do as I tell you and I will do as I please.
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Post by Ivan Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Tory MP received benefits from gambling industry links

Extract from an article by Randeep Ramesh:-

"A Tory member of an influential parliamentary select committee received more than £10,000 in benefits from companies with links to the gambling industry during a contentious year-long inquiry into the betting trade. Philip Davies, a rightwing Conservative MP and prominent member of the culture, media and sport select committee, did not declare the donations, arguing that in one case he did not have to and in the other that the firm was not directly linked to bookmakers."

For the whole article:-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/25/tory-mp-benefits-gambling-industry?CMP=twt_gu
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Post by Redflag Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:03 am

Ivan wrote:Tory MP received benefits from gambling industry links

Extract from an article by Randeep Ramesh:-

"A Tory member of an influential parliamentary select committee received more than £10,000 in benefits from companies with links to the gambling industry during a contentious year-long inquiry into the betting trade. Philip Davies, a rightwing Conservative MP and prominent member of the culture, media and sport select committee, did not declare the donations, arguing that in one case he did not have to and in the other that the firm was not directly linked to bookmakers."

For the whole article:-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/25/tory-mp-benefits-gambling-industry?CMP=twt_gu

Did you know that they also have links to the "Pay Day Loan Sharks" and that is the Tory party itself, one of their donors Lord Beecroft has finger in the pie of Wonga.
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Post by oftenwrong Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:51 pm

Where there's muck there's brass, and members of the Tory Party.

Old saying, still current
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Post by Redflag Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:13 am

oftenwrong wrote:Where there's muck there's brass, and members of the Tory Party.

Old saying, still current

You will never say a truer word OW, but it is not just muck there is also corruption when it comes to the ~Tory party. lol! lol!
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Post by Ivan Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:32 pm

And they're getting ever more brazen with their corruption, as this shows:-

http://www.greenbenchesuk.com/2013/01/speechless-tories-have-appointed-new.html
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Post by blueturando Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:54 am

Scandal???
Any difference from shoe horning Mandelson into the cabinet?

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Post by Redflag Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:38 am

blueturando wrote:Scandal???
Any difference from shoe horning Mandelson into the cabinet?

Yes there is handing gov't contracts to Tory donors is that not criminal, but you being a tory voter you will think that its OK, its only when a Labour MP does it its wrong.
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Post by blueturando Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:44 pm

No Redflag, it is wrong....but all sides play this game

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Post by Redflag Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:08 pm

blueturando wrote:No Redflag, it is wrong....but all sides play this game

But Tory gov'ts give there gov't contracts to Tory donors and friends of the Tory party Labour do not give contracts to the UNIONS there donors, I am dreading the Labour party getting back into gov't because I feel sorry for them the 49% of the NHS that the Tories have handed over to the private health sector is going to cost the taxpayers bloody Millions, and before you start yelling Labour brought in PFI yes they did but why? after 18 years of Tory NEGLECT of the NHS people where dying before they could get there operations and the waiting lists where miles long 18 months long that is why, so you could say that Thatcher forced Tony Blair's hand.
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Post by Ivan Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:58 pm

blueturando wrote:-
Scandal???
Any difference from shoe horning Mandelson into the cabinet?
Here we go again, the same tired old argument. Whenever Tory corruption is exposed, to somehow excuse it we get the predictable and stale reply that the other lot are just as bad. Well they’re not. There is no valid comparison whatsoever with Mandelson returning to the government after a spell in Brussels and this latest scandal.

For decades, both main parties have put their former MPs in the House of Lords in order to bring them into government. One of the most controversial examples was Lynda Chalker. Before 1992, she was Minister for Overseas Development, but she lost her seat in the general election of that year. John Major then put her in the House of Lords and she continued in the same job, despite having been rejected by the electorate.

When Peter Mandelson went to Brussels, he resigned his seat in Parliament, he wasn’t voted out. When he returned to the cabinet, it wasn’t because he had made a load of donations to the party, but because he was a politician who had served in government before.

John Nash has now been made a schools minister. He’s never been in the House of Commons, he’s not yet in the House of Lords, in fact he’s not been a politician at all. He’s just someone who has stuffed a load of dosh in the Tory coffers, as you would know if you'd bothered to read the source. It's nothing short of corruption.



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Post by Redflag Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:34 am

Thank you Ivan for that post, if I had my anger and frustration would have got me into trouble with you, as you have pointed out when the right see their party doing something corrupt Labour have always done worse or are just as bad, but you never get the details. It was the same in the Thatcher/Major years I hope this time when Labour come to power in 2015 they Publish the rights wrong doings gov't contracts and jobs going to friends and family and Tory donors.
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Post by Ivan Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:39 pm

Operation Fernbridge

Tom Watson must be one of the best – if not the best – of our 650 MPs. His tenacity with regard to the widespread phone hacking at ‘The News Of The World’ led to a police enquiry and numerous arrests. Now he’s persuaded the police to launch ‘Operation Fernbridge’ into allegations of child abuse dating from the 1980s.

Child abuse cops seize VIP list: Politicians, MI5 agent, royal aide and pop stars all named

A list of names seized by police probing allegations of child abuse includes ministers, members of the royal household and a world-famous pop star. All were recorded as visitors to a suburban guest house that operated as a gay brothel. Now some could be suspects in an investigation into a network of powerful people who were secret paedophiles for years.

Documents and a laptop were seized. The papers include a list of men who went to sex parties in the 80s at the Elm Guest House, Barnes, South West London. Among the names are two former Conservative cabinet ministers and four other senior Tories.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-seize-vip-list-in-dawn-1546351

You can also read about this news story via the following links:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-launch-criminal-investigation-into-mps-child-sex-ring-8456434.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264103/Scotland-Yard-launch-criminal-investigation-historic-claims-senior-aide-prime-minister-links-paedophile-ring.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The name of the ‘world-famous pop star’ who is allegedly involved in this abuse was in circulation for many years, even before the internet came into existence, but of course it mustn’t be mentioned on a public forum such as this. All we can do is offer our congratulations to Tom Watson if and when he gets another result, and trust that those responsible for the welfare of the young ones will be more vigilant in future.

What sickens me is that the newspapers were reviewed on ‘Broadcasting House’ this morning and no mention was made of this new investigation; trivia about the scrapping of old pianos was considered more important. We had the news blackout when the NHS bill was being passed and then the Savile affair was turned into an attack on the BBC – has the corporation being completely gagged by this government?
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Post by Redflag Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:20 pm

You're quite right Ivan, Tom Watson deserves a huge thank you from the entire UK, although I know that the Tory party and Tory voters will not think so infact it will be the opposite since he has uncovered the corruption of the Tory party.
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Post by skwalker1964 Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:35 pm

For sticking to proper left-wing ideas and being a forthright man of principle, I can't recommend Grahame Morris highly enough. He's @grahamemorris on Twitter, in case anyone wants to follow.
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Post by oftenwrong Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:41 pm

Some commentators think that Tom Watson overplayed his hand when producing the Commons Culture Committee Report on phone hacking.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/may/02/phone-hacking-report-tom-watson
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Post by Redflag Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:03 am

oftenwrong wrote:Some commentators think that Tom Watson overplayed his hand when producing the Commons Culture Committee Report on phone hacking.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/may/02/phone-hacking-report-tom-watson

I just think that Tom Watson has a nose for sniffing out wrong doing and corruption, or he knows the Tories of old and what they get up to when in power.
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Post by Ivan Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:01 pm

As I said previously, congratulations to Tom Watson for the tenacious way he pursues wrongdoing. Operation Fernbridge is now underway, and as a result there may be some people who won't be going on a summer holiday this year.

If you want to read a blog that exposes Cameron's lies, disinformation and rampant Conservative corruption, I recommend this one:-
http://cameron-cloggysmoralcompass.blogspot.co.uk/

So that it doesn't get 'buried' in this thread, I've also posted that link on the appropriate board:-
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t771-ayes-to-the-left

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Post by Redflag Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:04 pm

Ivan wrote:As I said previously, congratulations to Tom Watson for the tenacious way he pursues wrongdoing. Operation Fernbridge is now underway, and as a result there may be some people who won't be going on a summer holiday this year.

If you want to read a blog that exposes Cameron's lies, disinformation and rampant Conservative corruption, I recommend this one:-
http://cameron-cloggysmoralcompass.blogspot.co.uk/

So that it doesn't get 'buried' in this thread, I've also posted that link on the appropriate board:-
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t771-ayes-to-the-left


Thank you Ivan for your links, when you look at all the LIEs Cameron told us just before the 2010 general election it is frightening, also he tell the lies with a straight face and that tells us all we need to know about the bloody Tories they would sell there granny for money but in this case its the UK public there selling to the private sector.
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Post by oftenwrong Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:26 pm

QUOTE: Cutting Edge Posting Rules, Sunday July 15 2011

- Please post your messages only once. Repetitions are unpleasant and useless.
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Post by Redflag Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:47 am

blueturando wrote:No Redflag, it is wrong....but all sides play this game

Labour do not let the Unions get richer off the backs of the low paid sick disabled and the vulnerable, so who has the higher morals blue definitely not the Tories.
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Post by Ivan Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:17 pm

The stench of yet more Tory corruption……..

From an article by Ian Burrell:-

The government has been accused of “serious impropriety” over the way it awards £520m of contracts to provide public information advertising on issues like drink driving, stopping smoking and healthy eating.
Advertising agencies are furious at the Cabinet Office’s handling of its Communications Roster, after a company where Cabinet Office Minister Francis Maude was non-executive chairman won two prized places on the shortlist.

After a bidding process overseen by the Cabinet Office for a new “framework” of public information agencies, places on the roster for digital advertising (worth £120m of the total) and direct marketing (£160m) were won by the Devon-based agency Bray Leino, owned by The Mission Group, where Mr Maude is a former non-executive chairman.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/advertising/ad-agency-fury-as-francis-maudes-old-firm-goes-on-government-list-8525425.html
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Post by Phil Hornby Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:45 pm

The Tories are to honest and open government what the snotty Justin Bieber is to punctuality and maturity... Shocked
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Post by boatlady Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:29 pm

All in the trough together - by the way who IS Justin Bieber?
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Post by Redflag Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:34 pm

skwalker1964 wrote:For sticking to proper left-wing ideas and being a forthright man of principle, I can't recommend Grahame Morris highly enough. He's @grahamemorris on Twitter, in case anyone wants to follow.

I met him in Eastleigh skywalker and you're right he is a lovely person to talk to, he took my name and address and passed it on to Dennis Skinner for me and last week got my photo of Dennis and a letter, so that proves that Grahame Morris keeps his promises.
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Post by skwalker1964 Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:13 pm

Redflag wrote:I met him in Eastleigh skywalker and you're right he is a lovely person to talk to, he took my name and address and passed it on to Dennis Skinner for me and last week got my photo of Dennis and a letter, so that proves that Grahame Morris keeps his promises.

I've dropped him a note telling him I've been hearing good things! Smile
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