Will Boris Johnson lead the Tories into the next general election?
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Will Boris Johnson lead the Tories into the next general election?
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Be afraid...Be very afraid.
For years, since his days as a Bullingdon 'yahoo', right up to his second term as London Mayor, BoJo has played the clown. Every time he steps into the light he slips on a banana skin and with a shake of his blond mop-top and a muttered reply, walks away with laughter ringing in his ears. The media treat him as a joke, the public treat him as a joke and his own party treat him as a joke.
However...
He has carved out some very high power friends in the City, won a second term as Mayor of our Capital City and amassed a personal fortune into the bargain. Hardly the actions of a fool. Far from it.
This is a man who has climbed the greasy pole of political power almost unseen and undetected. He has claimed he has no wish to lead the Tory Party but has emerged as almost the only natural successor to Tweedlecam. Senior Tories know the leadership is now a poisoned chalice and feel safe in letting Boris in the door. That is a big mistake. :albino:
Be afraid...Be very afraid.
For years, since his days as a Bullingdon 'yahoo', right up to his second term as London Mayor, BoJo has played the clown. Every time he steps into the light he slips on a banana skin and with a shake of his blond mop-top and a muttered reply, walks away with laughter ringing in his ears. The media treat him as a joke, the public treat him as a joke and his own party treat him as a joke.
However...
He has carved out some very high power friends in the City, won a second term as Mayor of our Capital City and amassed a personal fortune into the bargain. Hardly the actions of a fool. Far from it.
This is a man who has climbed the greasy pole of political power almost unseen and undetected. He has claimed he has no wish to lead the Tory Party but has emerged as almost the only natural successor to Tweedlecam. Senior Tories know the leadership is now a poisoned chalice and feel safe in letting Boris in the door. That is a big mistake. :albino:
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I think and fear they might vote Tory irrespective of who leads them. The general public have been well and truly duped, being led to believe that all the unnecessary austerity measures and many other nasties meted out by a Tory administration, hiding behind a cloak of a so called Coalition saying they were "very necessary to get the country back on track"
With Osborne puffing out his chest on the pretence that unemployment is actually falling, when is the part time work and the zero hour contracts that are making the figs look good. On top of that the strutting peacock Osborne is boasting "growth". The public forget that Osborne has borrowed more than Brown and has had the benefit from the BOE with the injection of billions into the economy by way of Quantative Easing.
Unfortunately IMO they now see a government that is seemingly getting the economy going again. Seemingly the operative word here and it is enough to pursuade the fickle majority.
If Cameron were to get "stuffed", which is unlikely, the silly beggers would undoubtably vote for Boris because he is different and a clown and they love something different.
With Osborne puffing out his chest on the pretence that unemployment is actually falling, when is the part time work and the zero hour contracts that are making the figs look good. On top of that the strutting peacock Osborne is boasting "growth". The public forget that Osborne has borrowed more than Brown and has had the benefit from the BOE with the injection of billions into the economy by way of Quantative Easing.
Unfortunately IMO they now see a government that is seemingly getting the economy going again. Seemingly the operative word here and it is enough to pursuade the fickle majority.
If Cameron were to get "stuffed", which is unlikely, the silly beggers would undoubtably vote for Boris because he is different and a clown and they love something different.
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People get the Government they deserve.
(Greed is good)
(Greed is good)
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Mel as for Osborne that GLAKIT (lights on nobody at home) piece of SHYTE even his own constituents will not be voting for him because of HS2 route going through their village, Cameron who made the silly mistake of LYING about foodbank within his constituency there is a NHA party candidate who is a doctor from OUR NHS that is standing against him and from a TV program I seen he had the private sector health (virgin health) in his constituency running a the GP service and it was also always closed so people could not get an appointment to see a doctor.Mel wrote:I think and fear they might vote Tory irrespective of who leads them. The general public have been well and truly duped, being led to believe that all the unnecessary austerity measures and many other nasties meted out by a Tory administration, hiding behind a cloak of a so called Coalition saying they were "very necessary to get the country back on track"
With Osborne puffing out his chest on the pretence that unemployment is actually falling, when is the part time work and the zero hour contracts that are making the figs look good. On top of that the strutting peacock Osborne is boasting "growth". The public forget that Osborne has borrowed more than Brown and has had the benefit from the BOE with the injection of billions into the economy by way of Quantative Easing.
Unfortunately IMO they now see a government that is seemingly getting the economy going again. Seemingly the operative word here and it is enough to pursuade the fickle majority.
If Cameron were to get "stuffed", which is unlikely, the silly beggers would undoubtably vote for Boris because he is different and a clown and they love something different.
All Ed Miliband and the Labour party have to do is get back to the real Labour party values like start supporting the working man/women, IMHO Ed has been keeping his powder dry but most of it will be revealed at conference so I think we are in for a nice surprise, nothing spectacular but Eds fight back for the Labour party members and voters.
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Oh God, I really hope you are right Red.
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Mel the NHA party who are doctors from OUR NHS are standing against the Tories and possibily standing against the Lib-Dems, there is only so much that people will take then they SNAP I will be surprised if one of the ConDems do not get a punch in the mouth sooner or later, here in Glasgow we are hosting the Lib-Dem conference this weekend and I am quite certain they will get get a very warm reception from us Scots, I suppose there will be the people against the Bedroom tax and those against the Welfare cuts so things will get very hot for the Lib-Dems.Mel wrote:Oh God, I really hope you are right Red.
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I have plenty of time for you Scots Red. Scots are not fickle like many here in England. Scots and the NHA alone are not enough to oust these barstuards. It will take this lot here south of the border to see daylight and many can't yet see it unfortunately my friend.
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I do not mean to run down my friends in the south I do have some, plus have family members living in Warrington Newcastle Upon Tyne that is where I come from originally Yes I am a Geordie by birth as were my parents & grandparents, infact I did my family tree and it goes back to 1837 to Newcastle. Getting back to topic it is always England that votes the Tories into power (sorry Mel) but it is the truth, since the MAGGOT Scotland was turned off right wing SCUMBAGS.
At this moment I am watching the Lib-Dem conference on BBC Parliament channel and do not know what is stopping me from putting my foot through the TV, the LIES are coming thick and fast I do not know why they are making policies as they have already agreed to go into another coalition with the Tories in 2015 that came out recently its called 20/20 Think Tank.
At this moment I am watching the Lib-Dem conference on BBC Parliament channel and do not know what is stopping me from putting my foot through the TV, the LIES are coming thick and fast I do not know why they are making policies as they have already agreed to go into another coalition with the Tories in 2015 that came out recently its called 20/20 Think Tank.
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Redflag wrote:-
they have already agreed to go into another coalition with the Tories in 2015
But do you think that Boris Johnson will be leading the Tories by then?
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Nigel thinks it might be HIM leading the Tories!
What larks!
What larks!
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Can't be doing with fraidy-cats... If you know what he's like then practice a few sharp verbal retorts - cos - come the revolution - Boris will be leading the charge - just like he's always dreamed.... and the proles will fall like sheaves of corn.
In other words, don't let him get up your nose, outmanoever him with a more moral ideology, and preferrably say it louder, funnier - and first.
In other words, don't let him get up your nose, outmanoever him with a more moral ideology, and preferrably say it louder, funnier - and first.
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The one thing candidates find really difficult to deal with is ridicule.
There aren't many more ridiculous than Boris.
There aren't many more ridiculous than Boris.
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There could be a contender on the horizon. Jeremy Clarkson has announced on Twitter that he’s thinking of standing against Ed Miliband as an ‘independent’ in Doncaster North. Everyone knows that Clarkson is a right-wing Tory and pal of both Cameron and Rebekah Brooks, and his choice of who to stand against tells you just how ‘independent’ he is. If anyone wants to learn about some of his odious views, they can be found here:-oftenwrong wrote:-
There aren't many more ridiculous than Boris.
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t207-should-jeremy-clarkson-be-taken-outside-and-shot-in-front-of-his-family
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I'm all in favour of starting on the top man, if your intention is to oppose. That's the way novice Party Members begin - by contesting an unwinnable seat. To learn from the experience.
Coincidentally that's what some correspondents to Cutting Edge do, though in Sport the convention is to begin by participating in heats first.
Coincidentally that's what some correspondents to Cutting Edge do, though in Sport the convention is to begin by participating in heats first.
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Bunnyrunner wrote:Be afraid...Be very afraid.
For years, since his days as a Bullingdon 'yahoo', right up to his second term as London Mayor, BoJo has played the clown. Every time he steps into the light he slips on a banana skin and with a shake of his blond mop-top and a muttered reply, walks away with laughter ringing in his ears. The media treat him as a joke, the public treat him as a joke and his own party treat him as a joke.
However...
He has carved out some very high power friends in the City, won a second term as Mayor of our Capital City and amassed a personal fortune into the bargain. Hardly the actions of a fool. Far from it.
This is a man who has climbed the greasy pole of political power almost unseen and undetected. He has claimed he has no wish to lead the Tory Party but has emerged as almost the only natural successor to Tweedlecam. Senior Tories know the leadership is now a poisoned chalice and feel safe in letting Boris in the door. That is a big mistake. :albino:
You forgot to mention that Doris has his nose so far up Murdochs Butt it will take an operation to remove it, it was also the Murdoch papers that helped Doris win a second term in the Mayoral office by SMEARING Ken with LIES and HALF TRUTHS.
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Jeremy Clarkson: I may stand for parliament - against Ed Miliband
My God, who the hell does this arrogant self opinionated foul mouthed job think he is. Put the swine in a closed room with Glenda Jackson and see how the idiot prevails.
My God, who the hell does this arrogant self opinionated foul mouthed job think he is. Put the swine in a closed room with Glenda Jackson and see how the idiot prevails.
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That Mel I would like to have a ticket to watch, I hope the Tories are going to give him a SAFE Tory seat or he will lose some of the Tory party funds GOODY!Mel wrote:Jeremy Clarkson: I may stand for parliament - against Ed Miliband.
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" I say, Wopping-Bender, - what a simply super fib about why you didn't do your Latin prep! How long have you planned to be a future Tory Leader...?"
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At last the tart Boris Johnson has got something right. He is now telling us we are having a Concordia moment, Have you seen photo's of the Concordia,
if not here's one I prepared earlier.
"The extent of the damage on the Costa Concordia can be seen for the first time since it capsized". MSN News
The Ship just like Britain is a wreck, and just like our economy, we won't see the full extent of the Tory created damage till they are long gone from Government. The pratt Johnson couldn't have found a more ridiculous analogy to use, so far as the Tory Government are concerned.
if not here's one I prepared earlier.
"The extent of the damage on the Costa Concordia can be seen for the first time since it capsized". MSN News
The Ship just like Britain is a wreck, and just like our economy, we won't see the full extent of the Tory created damage till they are long gone from Government. The pratt Johnson couldn't have found a more ridiculous analogy to use, so far as the Tory Government are concerned.
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The clownish Captain of that unfortunate vessel was behaving in much the same way as our Coalition government.
Look, Mum! No hands!
Look, Mum! No hands!
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The ship has been salvaged. The Tory mess that has been meted out to the working man and the sick will take forever to salvage and they know it.
"Look, Mum! No hands!." reminds me of Cameron and his blusterous antics.
"Look, Mum! No hands!." reminds me of Cameron and his blusterous antics.
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Look, Mum! No hands
OW, I was going to pick you up on that, then realised it is their sires that are in doubt.
OW, I was going to pick you up on that, then realised it is their sires that are in doubt.
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Boris may not agree with me, but I think he has reached his ceiling.
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If its any consolation ow, I do.
I am in Rimini at the moment staying in my apartment, or should I say putting right the mess and damage left by people I have let use it. The apartment is almost opposite I Castelo di Sigismondo, Although I don't have a direct view of the castle, I can see just on the corner a bicycle hire scheme just like Johnsons, and just like Johnsons its proved to be a failure
I am in Rimini at the moment staying in my apartment, or should I say putting right the mess and damage left by people I have let use it. The apartment is almost opposite I Castelo di Sigismondo, Although I don't have a direct view of the castle, I can see just on the corner a bicycle hire scheme just like Johnsons, and just like Johnsons its proved to be a failure
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Good morning bobby, hope after the clean up you have a fine time. Great picture by the way. Remember the more people hire cycles the quicker they can be knocked over and clear the way for tax paying drivers.
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tlttf wrote:Good morning bobby, hope after the clean up you have a fine time. Great picture by the way. Remember the more people hire cycles the quicker they can be knocked over and clear the way for tax paying drivers.
I see you are reverting back to type tittf !
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Lack of respect for others is one of the distinguishing features of a natural Tory, Redflag.
But they get very cross when those others fail to recognise an assumed superiority.
But they get very cross when those others fail to recognise an assumed superiority.
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I note that "assumed" is the operative word here in this case.
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oftenwrong wrote:Lack of respect for others is one of the distinguishing features of a natural Tory, Redflag.
But they get very cross when those others fail to recognise an assumed superiority.
The Tories seem to assume so much OW, they always assume that they know best and assume they were born to rule dickheads and they also assume that they are better than the rest of us, when the truth is they are the biggest SHYTERS & SPIVS that have ever walked the earth and that goes right back to the time there was no Labour party.
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( msn)
" Message from Boris - any of you fancy a shag round at his place...?"
" Message from Boris - any of you fancy a shag round at his place...?"
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PH, you have hit the nail on the head, so if the Tories are thick enough to put him in place of Cameron hope they are ready for the scandals that will come out of the Tory party due to Doris.
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Maybe there is hope for all of us ... even the Mail Online, [irony] that darling of all lefties [/irony] doesn't rate his chances that highly I am absolutely delighted to report.
Boris in charge of the economy...
It is pretty depressing to think that actually no one really trusts politicians to run the economy by the looks of the stats
Boris in charge of the economy...
It is pretty depressing to think that actually no one really trusts politicians to run the economy by the looks of the stats
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Boris's Great Idea
"... and then it came to me : if they make me leader, I'll promise to give women the vote...!"
"... and then it came to me : if they make me leader, I'll promise to give women the vote...!"
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“We should be humbly thanking the super-rich”
Only a bloody fool like Boris Johnson could come out with such a crass remark. We’re supposed to thank the super-rich, many of whom are foreigners, for buying up so many properties in London that ordinary folk can’t afford to live there. We should thank the super-rich for paying such low wages that people in full-time jobs in London need thousands of pounds in benefits to survive. We should thank the super-rich for the ways in which they manage to avoid or evade tax and stash profits made in this country in overseas tax havens.
Johnson, like a typical Tory, distorts the facts to suit his agenda. He states how in 1979, when there was much greater equality, the richest 1% paid 11% of all income tax, but now the richest (he calls them “the top”, which speaks volumes) pay 14.1%. He doesn’t mention that the wealthiest 10% receive 40% of total UK income, while the poorest 10% get 1%. He doesn’t remind us that London is one of the most unequal cities on the planet, with the richest 10% ‘earning’ 273 times as much as the poorest 10%. He doesn’t point out that if current trends continue, by 2030 the highest 0.1% of earners in the UK will see their remuneration rise to 140 times average income. The last time someone in the top tenth of one per cent of the income distribution was deemed to be worth 140 other people was when we had a fully functioning aristocracy and Queen Victoria was on the throne.
Perhaps the biggest joke in Johnson’s article is when he talks about his “five years of slog” as London mayor. One of his first moves was to appoint five deputies at public expense to do all the work, giving him more time to take a second job with ‘The Daily Telegraph’, earning “chicken feed” (£250,000 a year). Then one year he had the gall to try and claim £16.50 on expenses for a wreath he laid at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday. The man is so lazy that if he won an award for his indolence, he’d probably send someone else to pick it up for him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/10456202/We-should-be-humbly-thanking-the-super-rich-not-bashing-them.html
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t709-does-inequality-matter
Only a bloody fool like Boris Johnson could come out with such a crass remark. We’re supposed to thank the super-rich, many of whom are foreigners, for buying up so many properties in London that ordinary folk can’t afford to live there. We should thank the super-rich for paying such low wages that people in full-time jobs in London need thousands of pounds in benefits to survive. We should thank the super-rich for the ways in which they manage to avoid or evade tax and stash profits made in this country in overseas tax havens.
Johnson, like a typical Tory, distorts the facts to suit his agenda. He states how in 1979, when there was much greater equality, the richest 1% paid 11% of all income tax, but now the richest (he calls them “the top”, which speaks volumes) pay 14.1%. He doesn’t mention that the wealthiest 10% receive 40% of total UK income, while the poorest 10% get 1%. He doesn’t remind us that London is one of the most unequal cities on the planet, with the richest 10% ‘earning’ 273 times as much as the poorest 10%. He doesn’t point out that if current trends continue, by 2030 the highest 0.1% of earners in the UK will see their remuneration rise to 140 times average income. The last time someone in the top tenth of one per cent of the income distribution was deemed to be worth 140 other people was when we had a fully functioning aristocracy and Queen Victoria was on the throne.
Perhaps the biggest joke in Johnson’s article is when he talks about his “five years of slog” as London mayor. One of his first moves was to appoint five deputies at public expense to do all the work, giving him more time to take a second job with ‘The Daily Telegraph’, earning “chicken feed” (£250,000 a year). Then one year he had the gall to try and claim £16.50 on expenses for a wreath he laid at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday. The man is so lazy that if he won an award for his indolence, he’d probably send someone else to pick it up for him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/10456202/We-should-be-humbly-thanking-the-super-rich-not-bashing-them.html
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t709-does-inequality-matter
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IVAN it just goes to prove what the Tories are really all about so I hope what ever sweetener the Tories come up with to bribe the general public to vote for them in 2015 gets thrown back in their faces via the ballot box, it also proves what I have thought for months DORIS is nothing but a Dick Head who has SAWDUST in his head instead of brains.:yeahthat:
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“The growing gulf between rich and poor is inevitable because millions of people are too stupid to get on in life” says Boris Johnson
From an article by James Lyons:-
Johnson said that the resentment felt towards the super rich in the wake of the financial crisis and five years of recession was irrational. “It would be wrong to persecute the rich, and madness to try and stifle wealth creation and futile to try to stamp out inequality”, he said. “It is surely relevant to a conversation about equality that as many as 16% of our species have an IQ below 85, while about 2% have an IQ above 130. The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-gulf-between-rich-2859024
From an article by James Lyons:-
Johnson said that the resentment felt towards the super rich in the wake of the financial crisis and five years of recession was irrational. “It would be wrong to persecute the rich, and madness to try and stifle wealth creation and futile to try to stamp out inequality”, he said. “It is surely relevant to a conversation about equality that as many as 16% of our species have an IQ below 85, while about 2% have an IQ above 130. The harder you shake the pack, the easier it will be for some cornflakes to get to the top.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-gulf-between-rich-2859024
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Perhaps it may now be time for the stupid to cull the too-clever-by-half.
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Those Tories have a real knack for presenting any views in a commendably sympathetic and diplomatic manner, don't you feel...?
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Ivan wrote:“The growing gulf between rich and poor is inevitable because millions of people are too stupid to get on in life” says Boris Johnson
What Doris has said just proves that he has not got one brain cell in his head, he seems to forget that the filthy rich (Doris included) will not allow anybody but their own to get on in life and will always try and keep the normal man/women down ie what the suffragettes had to go through just to get the vote for women, it was his ancestors they had to fight, the Tories have always been the same and they will NEVER CHANGE no matter what the leader of the Tories tell us whether it is DC or Doris.:yeahthat:
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Boris has a great deal more brain cells than many give him credit for. He knows that his antics keep him in the public eye nationally and that consistently spouting on a provocative right-wing theme keeps a convenient distance between him and Cameron -whom he can subliminally suggest is a bit of a liberal wet, by comparison.
Why, it can't be long , suspects Boris ( unhindered by the day-to-day troubles of governing the nation), before those real Tories are clamouring for the blond bombshell to save them from a fate worse than UKIP.
No fool that boy Boris. Now, if the Labour Party could just find a similar leader-in-waiting...
Why, it can't be long , suspects Boris ( unhindered by the day-to-day troubles of governing the nation), before those real Tories are clamouring for the blond bombshell to save them from a fate worse than UKIP.
No fool that boy Boris. Now, if the Labour Party could just find a similar leader-in-waiting...
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