Do the Tories have anything to offer us other than myths and lies?

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We were warned two years ago that Cameron is an obnoxious and loathsome individual, but not enough people were listening:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/02/04/david-cameron-what-the-experts-say-115875-22017276/

oftenwrong wrote:

"Now all this water is to be moved away from Conservative-held constituencies, and dumped all over UKIP supporters wherever they live!"

 

Sorry Davy boy we will move the water but it will go to Tory voting areas I think that is the same place where the economy is growing, so they can pay for their own flood defences 

The Devil looks after His Own. Money no object - the Prime Minister himself says so.

How I laughed when I heard some poison-spitting Tory MP accuse the Labour Party of 'opportunism' over the multitude of flooding cock-ups by the Government.

 It was akin to listening to Jonathan Aitken berating someone for dishonesty...

 

Nothing to see here - just one more U-turn.



Spending review: 'Greenest government ever' reserves worst cuts for Defra

Environment department has budget cut by 30% compared to government average of 19%
Juliette Jowit The guardian Wednesday 20 October 2010


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/oct/20/spending-review-cuts-environment

But I understood, from Mr Cameron's interview yesterday on Radio 4 that we are now a 'wealthy nation' - surely there won't be any need for more cuts?  

Gosh, bobby - no I wasn't.

I'm wondering if that's because I'm ...er....what's the word...?      

Almost four years of Coalition should have taught most people the value of a politician's promise. Government doesn't have any money, it can only come from Taxes on the people.

boatlady wrote:But I understood, from Mr Cameron's interview yesterday on Radio 4 that we are now a 'wealthy nation' - surely there won't be any need for more cuts?  

 
 
Its the same old story boatlady the Tories  tell LIES and can't remember what they have said, hence they have cuts in line for if the people of the UK are stupid enough to vote them back into power again in 2015  Osborne wants another £25bn of cuts in 2015.  

"... if the people of the UK are stupid enough to vote them back into power again in 2015..."  

They are - and they will...       

Phil Hornby wrote:"... if the people of the UK are stupid enough to vote them back into power again in 2015..."  

They are - and they will...       

If that is the case PH, HEAVEN EFFING HELP US I suppose that means the building of the WORKHOUSE will be getting started soon   

One of my Mum's frequent sayings used to be, "If you want a job doing properly, you'd best do it yourself."

It applies in many more circumstances than in just keeping the house clean. Right up to running a Country.

"If you want a job doing properly, you'd best do it yourself.".....Right up to running a Country.

I think that's exactly what Cameron intended for us when he was spouting his 'Big Society' claptrap.

Ivan wrote:

"If you want a job doing properly, you'd best do it yourself.".....Right up to running a Country.

I think that's exactly what Cameron intended for us when he was spouting his 'Big Society' claptrap.

Your spot on Ivan if you take a look at the flood areas at the moment its the people that live in the area that are helping out there neighbours, I bet Davy boy is rubbing his hands thast is more spin for the run up to the general election of 2015, I bet he comes out with My Big Society CLAPTRAP.  

Yep - we are( apparently) a wealthy country and money is no object ( to those who can afford it). But will the public remember all this in May 2015...?

The 'money's no object' thing from Cameron was particularly offensive I thought. Not because I have a problem with money being spent on the floods but more to do with the fact it's our bloody money. I wonder if he'd be so bothered if the effects weren't being felt in middle England as well.

Everyone with half a brain knows that Cameron and his ilk care not a jot for anything except protecting the interests of 'their own'. He  - like others in his circle - is a slimy individual who is about as worthy of trust as a rattlesnake up one's trouser leg...

You're spot on PH, Davy boy will LIE through his back teeth even to Tory voters, and the rest of us do not matter at all, I just hope his LIES come back and bite him on his fat Posterior. 

Redflag, I'd bet a shiny pound coin that someone at Brewers Green Labour Party HQ is at this very moment updating a list of Cameron's broken promises and policy U-turns.

http://www.labour.org.uk/cameron-nhs

Today's news is that several hundred government employees under notice of redundancy have been told to continue working as usual for Defra.

Harold MacMillan's response to a journalist when asked what is most likely to blow governments off course, is said to have replied, "Events, dear boy, events."

oftenwrong wrote:Today's news is that several hundred government employees under notice of redundancy have been told to continue working as usual for Defra.  

Harold MacMillan's response to a journalist when asked what is most likely to blow governments off course, is said to have replied, "Events, dear boy, events."

It has taken the floods or God's wrath to make Davy boy think again about sacking 1500 and cutting the budget from the Enviroment Agency OW   

Redflag wrote:It has taken the floods or God's wrath to make Davy boy think again about sacking 1500 and cutting the budget  from the Enviroment Agency OW   

 
It has taken hostile comments in the tory media, which is all any of these shitbags live by.

They're starting to eat their own tails.

Who was it that sent troops into the flood zone without waterproof clothing? Probably the same genius that sent them into Afghanistan without flak jackets.

I hope that in April 2015 we will be treated to some party election broadcasts by Labour on the theme of “will you again believe anything this man tells you, as many of you did in 2010?”
 

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1630914/thumbs/n-DAVID-CAMERON-large570.jpg
 
Cameron's claim that the number of households without work doubled under the last Labour government has been officially disproved. The Office for National Statistics has released figures which show that the number of workless households fell over the boom years in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
 
For the full story:-
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/19/david-cameron-benefits-workless_n_4813606.html?&ir=UK

To be honest Ivan I think he is going to have a hard job getting his own to believe what he says never mind the rest of the electorate, I would love to see Ed Miliband tear Davy boy apart on the party election broadcasts.   This is just the beginning of the Tory LIES being found out by everybody in the UK Ivan with all those LIES that IBS & Fester McVey keep telling by the time of May 2015 Davy boys game will be up.      PS I have sent Oliver Coppard a DM letting him know I AM FREE for whenever he needs me

Here's another account of Cameron's lie about workless households under Labour.
 
How Cameron got his facts wrong on workless families
 
From an article by George Eaton:-
 
Cameron's response to the Archbishop of Westminster, Vincent Nichols, who rightly warned that the coalition's benefit cuts had left many in "hunger and destitution", includes the remarkable statistic that "the number of workless households doubled" under Labour.  Unfortunately for him, it simply isn't true.

As data from the ONS shows, the number of workless households (defined as a household where no one aged over 16 is in employment) rose from 3.7  million in 1997 to 3.9  million in 2010 (having fallen to 3.5  million before the crash), not 7.4  million as Cameron's claim would suggest. As a percentage, the number actually fell from 19.8% to 19.2%.
 
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/02/how-cameron-got-his-facts-wrong-workless-families

In the same report Ivan, the number of over 500 people that attended hospital with MALUTRION, we all know that Lyton Crosby will find something to deny it more LIES & SPIN which is there normal stance.

When you have an Ex-Archbishop of Canterbury (Rowan Williamson) coming out denouncing the gov't on there welfare cuts, and adding that the people that have to go hungry and if it was not for the Trussell Trust and churches across the UK setting up foodbanks there would be deaths from hunger, all thanks to Davy boy & IBS and the rest of the VILE NASTY Tory party.

Regrettably, the clergy have even less credibility among the population as a whole than even the Tory front bench. On the other hand, global-warming-deniers are not enjoying much of an audience these days, either.

oftenwrong wrote:Regrettably, the clergy have even less credibility among the population as a whole than even the Tory front bench. On the other hand, global-warming-deniers are not enjoying much of an audience these days, either.

I don't think that is true. Nobody believes the tories, though arse-lickers and careerists sort-of-pretend to.

Penderyn wrote:

oftenwrong wrote:Regrettably, the clergy have even less credibility among the population as a whole than even the Tory front bench. On the other hand, global-warming-deniers are not enjoying much of an audience these days, either.

I don't think that is true.   Nobody believes the tories, though arse-lickers and careerists sort-of-pretend to.

Your spot on Penderyn, we will just have to hope the rest of the UK cotton on to whatever comes out of the Tory Gob is NOWT but BLATANT LIES

Quote: "....Nobody believes the tories...."

There is however at least one, Harriet Sergeant, writing in today's Sunday Times: "....The very public rebuke from the clergy and the Archbishop....highlighted.. the legacy of this government: the bravery and determination of Michael Gove and Iain Duncan Smith, both churchgoers, to confront and reverse the accepted thinking on poverty, education and benefits."

See? You CAN make it up! There it is in a National Newspaper.

OW The Sunday Times maybe a National Newspaper but that does not signify its telling the TRUTH, as most of the UK know it is a right wing pile of BROWN STINKY STUFF   Plus it belongs to that OLD FART Murdoch and everybody knows he enjoys repeating the Tory LIES.

I am glad the Clergy of all denominations has came out and told the truth about Davy boy IBS and Fester McVey, not that they will listen but with more cuts coming up in April (more council tax cuts) I can see us having our own Arab Spring by the summer.  

Can the Tories get more absurd than these three tweets illustrate?
 
1. By Nick Boles MP: “PM was right to urge Parliament to stand up to Putin and punish Assad's use of chemical weapons. Look where Miliband's weakness has led us.”
 
2. By Sajid David MP: “Direct link between Miliband's cynical vote against Syria motion & Russia's actions on Ukraine. Completely unfit to lead Britain.”
 
3. By Louise Mensch: “Miliband trashed his agreement for party advantage.”
 
So there you have it, folks! The current crisis in Ukraine is “all Labour’s fault”.  

Come on Ivan what did you expect from those right wing SCUMBAGS, they will blame anybody but themselves if it was not for the general election only been 15 months away they would blame the electorate for the trouble.

What nobody seems to realize is that Putin wants to take Russia back to the bad old days of the KGB, so there is not much difference between Putin & Davy boy he wants to take the UK back to the time of Charles Dickens books.  

I find the notion that things would definitely be better if we'd intervened in Syria more than a little presumptuous, especially given the large numbers of Chinese and Russian troops stationed there when military action was being mooted. It's not in the same ball park as blaming Miliband for Putin's involvement in Ukraine though.

I enjoy it when the Tory criticisms of Labour become shrill!

David Willets, writing in the Sunday Times today, says ".... one of the reasons why the UK was hit so hard in the great recession is because the last government short-sightedly put all its eggs in the financial services basket. So when the banks collapsed, we didn't have a broad enough economy to deal with the crash, or other industries to fall back on."

Mr. Willets might just remember having been in John Major's Conservative administration as Whip, a Cabinet Office Minister, and then Paymaster General. Odd that he never discovered that it was Thatcher who short-sightedly put all her eggs in the financial services basket .... leaving no other industries to fall back on.

It wasn't the last government after all - it was the Tory government before the last Tory government wot dunnit!

oftenwrong wrote:David Willets, writing in the Sunday Times today, says ".... one of the reasons why the UK was hit so hard in the great recession is because the last government short-sightedly put all its eggs in the financial services basket.  So when the banks collapsed, we didn't have a broad enough economy to deal with the crash, or other industries to fall back on."

Mr. Willets might just remember having been in John Major's Conservative administration as  Whip, a Cabinet Office Minister, and then Paymaster General.  Odd that he never discovered that it was Thatcher who short-sightedly put all her eggs in the financial services basket .... leaving no other industries to fall back on.  

It wasn't the last government after all - it was the Tory government before the last Tory government wot dunnit!

If he had really got his momory back OW he would have remembered that it was Thatcher that De-Regulated the banks in 1986, closed the Ship building, Steel making, and shut down the coal mines along with our manufacturing businesses.

The Tories also seem to forget while the Labour party was in gov't for 13 years jobs where plentiful decent wages were paid (after Labour brought in minimum wage) and I do not think that anyone would have thought the B(W)ankers would take GREED to its Ultimate stance