Do the Tories have anything to offer us other than myths and lies?

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We were warned two years ago that Cameron is an obnoxious and loathsome individual, but not enough people were listening:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/02/04/david-cameron-what-the-experts-say-115875-22017276/

A bastard definitely worth voting for then boatlady eh?

The Tories attacked Ed Miliband's Father, in the certain knowledge that Labour could not reciprocate, the problem being who knows who sired the Bastards, that's why you will never see a happy Tory on Fathers day.

I thought bobby that most Tories where sired by a quick fumble in the back of a sedan chair

That's about the size of it - how any human adult could consider this to be a legitimate job is beyond me

Is he human?

No stuart he is not human that is why Davy boy hired him "Birds of a Feather Flock Togetheer"

The only thing which Tories offer is support for other Tories. Is anyone else surprised at that?

Nothing the Tories do OW surprises me I have been shocked over the last 5 years by this shower of TOSSERS as to how VILE & CRUEL this lot can be.

GW please take notice of what they can do to people yet allowed the B(W)ankers away with what they did in 2008 which we are paying for now, I know that the Labour party should have jailed the BACKSTUDS and when I get the chance I will be asking the Labour party (of which I am a member) WHY they did not prosecute the wankers.

Thank you Ivan for putting this on cutting edge I have seen this on twitter and all my good wishes are with our brave FIREFIGHTERS and hope they win there fight with this VILE gov't, I hope in the future the Tories need the services of firefighters & the FF tell them to EFF OFF.

Here is some advice for our firefighters this Tory SLIMEY gov't has been LYING to the people of the UK since May 2010.

Seconded to that Redflag, and the fire fighters were in the paper today and if I were their leader I would have said just that bet it would have made front pages

I take it you read between the lines my post stuart, thank you for your second to my post I have backed the firefighters since they started this industrial action because they have right on there side.

They most certainly have Redflag.

Tory minister Esther McVey accused of hypocrisy after voting to block plain tobacco packaging

From an article by Liam Murphy:-

The only Conservative MP on Merseyside, employment minister Esther McVey, has been accused of “misleading” a constituent over her stance on plain tobacco packaging. Cancer support volunteer Tony Murphy wrote to Ms McVey, his local MP, seeking her support on measures to prevent children from smoking. He said that on March 11 (World No Smoking Day) he was delighted to receive a reply from the Wirral West MP assuring him she, and her party, shared his concerns. She wrote that the government was pressing ahead with plain packaging for tobacco and said: “Like you I think this is an enormously positive measure that will save lives and prevent children from taking up smoking in the first place.”

Tony says he was then dismayed when he read a week later that McVey had voted against the standardised packaging proposal. Labour’s public health spokeswoman Luciana Berger said: “She agreed that standardised packaging would save lives, yet at the last minute she tried to block it. There is now a dark shadow hanging over everything Esther McVey says she stands for.”

Labour has a five-point lead in Mcvey's seat, which she won in 2010 with a majority of 2,436. The findings are a major setback for the champion of the bedroom tax who recently boasted she would like to be prime minister.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-minister-esther-mcvey-accused-5375040

Shows you what a two faced lot they are does it not Ivan?

Nice to see you back Stuart.
Really good news that McVey may well lose her seat - I think she has been one of the 'normal' looking younger members who have helped to sell the toxic Tory brand - and all just for their own benefit

Exactly boatlady, well she will be out this time for sure, just easing myself back in gently as mum's funeral is on wednesday and giving myself things to do to keep my mind occupied to stop the old tears from flowing love and it is working, nice to be back amongst the nice folk.

Redflag wrote:Nothing the Tories do OW surprises me I have been shocked over the last 5 years by this shower of TOSSERS as to how VILE & CRUEL this lot can be.

GW please take notice of what they can do to people yet allowed the B(W)ankers away with what they did in 2008 which we are paying for now, I know that the Labour party should have jailed the BACKSTUDS and when I get the chance I will be asking the Labour party (of which I am a member) WHY they did not prosecute the wankers.

What makes you think I'm naive to the Tories?

That isn't the problem on these boards. It's your naivete to Labour believing they actually represent a real alternative. That ship sailed long ago. Miliband is just another stooge of the capitalist system out to please capital: the likes of Murdoch, big business, etc.

Again, I grant there are differences. But the reality is the Labour party falls far short of what we need and it's a very sorry state of affairs that the best we can do is advocate voting for them because they are NOT the Tories. Look at how Labour betrayed the scots and how they are now dead in Scotland; they are finished north of the border. Look at their lack of progressive sopcialist policies.

Since Ed Miliband is not and has not been running this country you make a lot of ASSUMPTIONS GW, but then again you are a Troll and like Ivan & boatlady I will not be replying to your pile of TRIPE.

Cameron got a hammering from jeremy paxman did he not Eunice.

Paxman was the victor in that debate, Stu, but our boy did very well in the face of some very hostile questions from "the public".
e.g.
"Would your brother have done better in your job?"

It's presumably the same answer as you'd give at the end of a delightful and filling meal if asked, "Would you have preferred something else?"

Sheesh!

I think Ed came out on top of the two leaders quite easily OW don't you?

Stuart Ed was not just fit to take on Davy boy he put Paxo in his place, I watched it live and IMHO Ed was the winner by MILES

ghost whistler wrote:What makes you think I'm naive to the Tories?

That isn't the problem on these boards. It's your naivete to Labour believing they actually represent a real alternative. That ship sailed long ago. Miliband is just another stooge of the capitalist system out to please capital: the likes of Murdoch, big business, etc.

Again, I grant there are differences. But the reality is the Labour party falls far short of what we need and it's a very sorry state of affairs that the best we can do is advocate voting for them because they are NOT the Tories. Look at how Labour betrayed the scots and how they are now dead in Scotland; they are finished north of the border. Look at their lack of progressive sopcialist policies.

This is me breaking my promise not to reply to your drivel but since you are so thick & unable to get things through your thick scull  I will try one last time Murdoch and the press barons hate Ed reason because Ed will implement the Laveson inquiries IN FULL

Why do you think the right wing media are helping the Tories to smear Ed Miliband just like your doing on this forum, now do not bother me again or I will report you to to the forums management.

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Personally, I can’t see how “Labour betrayed the Scots”, when Labour has always been a pro-union party and hasn’t been in power since the referendum to have the opportunity to implement any promises, but the SNP has been very effective in spreading that myth. However, the purpose of this thread is to highlight and discuss Tory dishonesty, which is really what this election might well come down to: with their track record, should we believe a word of anything that the Tories say, or is it time for UK plc to have new management?

Thank you Ivan got your message loud & clear & will not cause you any more problems.

Which would be the next CAST IRON GUARANTEE Tory proposal to rust away before our eyes if they're re-elected?

The Referendum on Britain's EU membership?

Cast-Iron you must be joking OW, more like a TIN-POT sewer crawling Tories, just take a look at Davy boy & Osborne both have YELLOW STREAKS down the middle of there backs by refusing to debate live on TV with Ed Miliband and Ed Balls, after shaking hands on the Andrew Marr show Osborne promised to debate Ed Balls on a live tv debate.

IVAN It is an impossible task for any Tory to tell the truth, maybe if there life depended on it even then I doubt they could do it its not in there character or DNA so for future reference never believe a Tory.

And Cameron was a PR man.  They do not even understand the concept truth.

Another example.....


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Actually Ivan I do believe that it has gone up even more by now to somewhere in the region of 32%.

Here we have nine of those 500 business people who signed that letter to 'The Daily Telegraph' supporting the Tories:-


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boatlady wrote:Really good news that McVey may well lose her seat - I think she has been one of the 'normal' looking younger members who have helped to sell the toxic Tory brand - and all just for their own benefit

When I was in Wirral West the people were certain that they will be voting her out on the 7th May, so that is one wish of boatladys that I have helped to bring true, while I was out never seen her once I was told she was sneaking around her in her hoody and trainers doing a bit of leafletting on her OWN

So I am hoping that the places I travelled to those Labour candidates win there ats unating two Tories and one Lib-Dem.

Keeping fingers crossed Redflag,that you and all Labours work will get three of the opposition out.

The Tories have nothing to offer to anyone apart the rich.

For the rest it's just poverty and despair.