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Post by KnarkyBadger Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:50 am

Richard III has been discovered! I'm a republican but the Archaeologist in me is a tad over excited! Very Happy http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882
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Post by bobby Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:41 pm

So when is the Coronation? Very Happy
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Post by skwalker1964 Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:38 pm

Archaeologists found his body.

Atos found him fit for work...

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Post by boatlady Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:25 pm

Has his JSA been sanctioned yet?
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Post by Phil Hornby Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:09 pm

We are currently governed by a whole bunch of 'Richard the Thirds...' Very Happy
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Post by Ivan Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:33 pm

This was posted on Twitter: "Richard III - 500 years in a wooden coffin. Talk about splinters of discontent."

Richard III’s death at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485 brought to an end the Plantagenet dynasty in England and resulted in Tudor monarchs for the next 118 years. When Shakespeare (or whoever wrote plays under that name – see https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t290-who-was-william-shakespeare) wrote about Richard III in 1592, the Tudors were still on the throne and it would have been politically expedient to cast a member of the former dynasty in a bad light. In ‘Richard III’ (Act 1, Scene 1), Richard describes himself as a deformed monster: “I, that am stunted, deformed, born only half finished, so lame and ugly that dogs bark at me when I pass. I am determined to be a villain – sly, false and treacherous.”

To me, the most interesting aspect about the skeleton in the Leicester car park is that it has a curved spine, suggesting that Richard III probably was deformed and not just described in that way by the author of the Shakespeare plays. Not that that makes Richard III “villainous, sly or treacherous”, and there is a strong case for suggesting that Henry VII, the first Tudor monarch, had the greatest reason to want the 'Princes in the Tower' dead, since Prince Edward had more right to be king than he did.

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Post by skwalker1964 Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:39 pm

And he died leading his group in battle rather than standing at the back and shouting 'Off you go, boys!'

Our current crop of government politicians are likely far more odious than he ever was.
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Post by KnarkyBadger Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:56 pm

A much maligned man I feel. History is always written by the victors.
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Post by Ivan Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 am

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Post by oftenwrong Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:43 pm

Stop laughing at the back, there !

http://news.uk.msn.com/blog/trending-blogpost.aspx?post=621023dd-08e5-47ef-8889-392a6d28f9b1

Richard III 001d0071-0000-0000-0000-000000000000_5c75745a-32be-4e03-8e21-7367c8b575c9_20130206130019_richard1

(Labour's Michael McCann asked David Cameron: "Can the prime minister confirm Atos have declared Richard III fit for work?")
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Post by Phil Hornby Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:38 pm

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" Just my luck - I get dug up after all these years and find there's a bloody Tory Government in power..."
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Post by Redflag Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:44 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Stop laughing at the back, there !

http://news.uk.msn.com/blog/trending-blogpost.aspx?post=621023dd-08e5-47ef-8889-392a6d28f9b1

Richard III 001d0071-0000-0000-0000-000000000000_5c75745a-32be-4e03-8e21-7367c8b575c9_20130206130019_richard1

(Labour's Michael McCann asked David Cameron: "Can the prime minister confirm Atos have declared Richard III fit for work?")

I was watching PMQs today OW, more than likely if Richard III went before ATOS in the state he was found ATOS would have passed him fit for work with flying colours.
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Post by Phil Hornby Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:49 pm

"...ATOS would have passed him fit for work with flying colours"

With a recommendation for employment as a Car Park Attendant perhaps...? Shocked
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:52 pm

skwalker1964 wrote:
And he died leading his group in battle rather than standing at the back and shouting 'Off you go, boys!'

Our current crop of government politicians are likely far more odious than he ever was.

One of your current non-crown princes (I believe he was born second-in-line but has been bumped down the ladder by subsequent births) piloted a Royal Navy helicopter during the Falklands War. One of his duties was flying Excocet decoy duty, hovering in front of RN warships between approaching missile and ship, allowing the Excocet to lock on to his helo, moving away from the warship, and at that last minute popping up to escape certain destruction. It’s a damned shame that y’all can’t vote for your next monarch from amongst Elizabeth II’s descendants.
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Post by Redflag Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:54 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:"...ATOS would have passed him fit for work with flying colours"

With a recommendation for employment as a Car Park Attendant perhaps...? Shocked

Well said PH, or maybe a janitor in one of the Universities lol!
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Post by KnarkyBadger Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:47 pm

That'll be Andrew, the most corrupt freeloader of the lot the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas.
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:20 pm

Redflag wrote:
Phil Hornby wrote:"...ATOS would have passed him fit for work with flying colours"

With a recommendation for employment as a Car Park Attendant perhaps...? Shocked

Well said PH, or maybe a janitor in one of the Universities lol!

Employment of Richard III as attendant in a multi-storey Car Park could be seen as wrong on several levels.

(With kind permission of Twitter)
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:45 pm

Say what you like about Richard III. It's impossible to libel the Dead under English Law.

However, living Royals could present a different proposition.
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Post by skwalker1964 Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:31 am

Maybe not if it was an underground car park...

(Courtesy of me lol)
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Post by Redflag Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:07 am

skwalker1964 wrote:Maybe not if it was an underground car park...

(Courtesy of me lol)

So Far skywalker you have came up with the best job for Richard III lol!
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Post by Phil Hornby Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:54 am

All this hilarious banter reminds me of a contribution made on Radio 5Live this morning about 7.30 when a spokesman said that the worrying mortality rate at certain named Hospital Trusts was very much a 'live issue'.... Shocked
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Post by skwalker1964 Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:35 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Stop laughing at the back, there !

http://news.uk.msn.com/blog/trending-blogpost.aspx?post=621023dd-08e5-47ef-8889-392a6d28f9b1

Richard III 001d0071-0000-0000-0000-000000000000_5c75745a-32be-4e03-8e21-7367c8b575c9_20130206130019_richard1

(Labour's Michael McCann asked David Cameron: "Can the prime minister confirm Atos have declared Richard III fit for work?")

I met Mike last night - after a couple of pints he was very proud and still beaming lol.
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Post by skwalker1964 Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:37 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:All this hilarious banter reminds me of a contribution made on Radio 5Live this morning about 7.30 when a spokesman said that the worrying mortality rate at certain named Hospital Trusts was very much a 'live issue'.... Shocked

My favourite - sort of unrelated and related at the same time! - was on R4 in a recent piece on the gay marriage issue. A lady Conservative Association chair was being interviewed and said (I kid you not):

We want David Cameron to come out more strongly on the issue.
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