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Is it right for the Tories to redefine poverty?
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Is this government right to set out a new criteria by which poverty in Britain is measured or is it just a case of moving the goal posts to help them meet a target?
Is this government right to set out a new criteria by which poverty in Britain is measured or is it just a case of moving the goal posts to help them meet a target?
Poverty Measure To Be Redefined By Iain Duncan Smith
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/14/poverty-measure-to-be-redefined_n_1595677.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
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A flower for every person who died within six weeks of ATOS finding them fit for work.
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Iain Duncan Smith has blood on his hands and should be put on trial for crimes against humanity when this nightmare of a government is thrown out.
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Iain Duncan Smith has blood on his hands and should be put on trial for crimes against humanity when this nightmare of a government is thrown out.
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.... when this nightmare of a government is thrown out ....
many Cabinet Ministers will have already arranged to join the board of a friendly company. In the case of IDS that might mean Atos or a confrére. http://www.atoshealthcare.com/claimants/
many Cabinet Ministers will have already arranged to join the board of a friendly company. In the case of IDS that might mean Atos or a confrére. http://www.atoshealthcare.com/claimants/
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Back to Glenda Jackson : when do we ever hear such an articulate and effective speech on the cruelty of Duncan Smith et al from the mouth of Milly?
If only he could deliver a rapier thrust like that in the Commons from time to time...
If only he could deliver a rapier thrust like that in the Commons from time to time...
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Ideally, Mr twatface Smith should be made to sit down with each of the families that each flower represents and give a full explanation of how the decision was made to send them back to work. For most people the repetition of this would prove to be soul destroying and admitting that level of incompetence a severe humiliation. However I doubt that offering an apology even crossed his mind.. Says it all!
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Another reason why Iain Duncan Smith should be put on trial and then jailed for abusing human rights:-
'Lessons must be learned' from diabetic former soldier, who died after benefits sanction
A Stevenage diabetic who could not afford electricity to keep his insulin cool died after his benefits were stopped. His jobseeker’s allowance of approximately £70 a week – on which his family says he was reliant – had been suspended three weeks before on June 28 last year, for missing meetings.
According to his family, Mr Clapson was found “alone, penniless and starving” a short distance from a pile of printed CVs, with nothing to his name but £3.44, six tea bags, a tin of soup and an out-of-date tin of sardines. The coroner found that David – a former BT engineer of 16 years, who had served two years in Northern Ireland with the Royal Corps of Signals during The Troubles – had nothing in his stomach when he died.
http://www.theadvertisergroup.co.uk/Daily-News/Stevenage/Lessons-must-be-learned-from-diabetic-former-soldier-who-died-after-benefits-sanction-20140722174205.htm
'Lessons must be learned' from diabetic former soldier, who died after benefits sanction
A Stevenage diabetic who could not afford electricity to keep his insulin cool died after his benefits were stopped. His jobseeker’s allowance of approximately £70 a week – on which his family says he was reliant – had been suspended three weeks before on June 28 last year, for missing meetings.
According to his family, Mr Clapson was found “alone, penniless and starving” a short distance from a pile of printed CVs, with nothing to his name but £3.44, six tea bags, a tin of soup and an out-of-date tin of sardines. The coroner found that David – a former BT engineer of 16 years, who had served two years in Northern Ireland with the Royal Corps of Signals during The Troubles – had nothing in his stomach when he died.
http://www.theadvertisergroup.co.uk/Daily-News/Stevenage/Lessons-must-be-learned-from-diabetic-former-soldier-who-died-after-benefits-sanction-20140722174205.htm
Re: Iain Duncan Smith
We have until next May to get the bastards out. Suggest everyone falls into line with the Opposition Labour Party. Unless you believe in miracles.
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1,300 people on sickness benefit dead after being told to begin work related activities immediately, admits the DWP
From an article by Eoin Clarke:-
"According to Iain Duncan Smith’s team, every year more than 40,000 people on sickness benefits (such as ESA) die. Over a three-year period more than 125,000 people had died while on sickness benefit. During the lifetime of this parliament, 200,000+ will die on sickness benefit.
In order to be placed on sickness benefit, claimants must undergo an assessment. Some of those claimants are assessed and told that they will be fit for work in the future, and as such they are expected to carry out work related activity (such as training) immediately. According to the DWP, 1,300 of those told they’d be fit to work in the future and expected to carry out work related activity died during one eleven-month period in 2011.
Of those receiving ESA who had died in 2011, the DWP tells us that 15% of those had been placed in the category to ready themselves for work. More worryingly, the DWP admit that 26% of those dead that had been assessed in the most recent year, under the new regulations, had been told to ready themselves for work. More than a quarter of deaths occurring under new assessments are people who have been told to begin work related activity immediately.
In addition, we have no way of knowing how many died after failing their medical assessment because the DWP does not keep that data."
http://www.labourleft.co.uk/1300-people-on-sickness-benefit-dead-after-being-told-to-begin-work-related-activities-immediately-admits-idss-dept-by-dreoincl/
From an article by Eoin Clarke:-
"According to Iain Duncan Smith’s team, every year more than 40,000 people on sickness benefits (such as ESA) die. Over a three-year period more than 125,000 people had died while on sickness benefit. During the lifetime of this parliament, 200,000+ will die on sickness benefit.
In order to be placed on sickness benefit, claimants must undergo an assessment. Some of those claimants are assessed and told that they will be fit for work in the future, and as such they are expected to carry out work related activity (such as training) immediately. According to the DWP, 1,300 of those told they’d be fit to work in the future and expected to carry out work related activity died during one eleven-month period in 2011.
Of those receiving ESA who had died in 2011, the DWP tells us that 15% of those had been placed in the category to ready themselves for work. More worryingly, the DWP admit that 26% of those dead that had been assessed in the most recent year, under the new regulations, had been told to ready themselves for work. More than a quarter of deaths occurring under new assessments are people who have been told to begin work related activity immediately.
In addition, we have no way of knowing how many died after failing their medical assessment because the DWP does not keep that data."
http://www.labourleft.co.uk/1300-people-on-sickness-benefit-dead-after-being-told-to-begin-work-related-activities-immediately-admits-idss-dept-by-dreoincl/
Re: Iain Duncan Smith
Doctors have always been able to bury their mistakes, so why deny that privilege to our elected representatives in Parliament?
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Welcome to Dr Duncan Smith's Surgery
" I am the original ' Hypocritic Oaf'... "
" I am the original ' Hypocritic Oaf'... "
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We have until next May to get the bastards out. Suggest everyone falls into line with the Opposition Labour Party. Unless you believe in miracles.
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Iain Duncan Smith blames rising immigration levels on people who refuse to get a job
From an article by Ian Johnston:-
“People who refuse to get a job are responsible for increasing the level of immigration into the UK, according to Iain Duncan Smith. He has reversed the claim that migrants are taking jobs that otherwise would have gone to British people by saying they are coming to Britain because of the number of British people who choose to live on benefits.
The Conservatives are reportedly considering making further cuts to welfare and Duncan Smith suggests he believes there is more to be done.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-blames-rising-immigration-levels-on-people-who-refuse-to-get-a-job-9660489.html
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From an article by Ian Johnston:-
“People who refuse to get a job are responsible for increasing the level of immigration into the UK, according to Iain Duncan Smith. He has reversed the claim that migrants are taking jobs that otherwise would have gone to British people by saying they are coming to Britain because of the number of British people who choose to live on benefits.
The Conservatives are reportedly considering making further cuts to welfare and Duncan Smith suggests he believes there is more to be done.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-blames-rising-immigration-levels-on-people-who-refuse-to-get-a-job-9660489.html
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Benefits cuts vital to recovery, says Duncan Smith
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721488/
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Will Duncan Smith go down as the most repulsive Secretary of State ever seen on these shores?
And , if not, who could possibly match his capacity for sheer cruelty, and the enjoyment he so clearly extracts from maximising the misery of others?
And , if not, who could possibly match his capacity for sheer cruelty, and the enjoyment he so clearly extracts from maximising the misery of others?
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I should think so. And here are some extracts from a scathing attack on him by Polly Toynbee which support that point of view. In my opinion, the whole article is well worth reading:-Phil Hornby wrote:-
Will Duncan Smith go down as the most repulsive Secretary of State ever seen on these shores?
Iain Duncan Smith’s delusional world of welfare reform
Politicians may deal in terminological inexactitudes, but I can’t think of many as downright deceptive as Iain Duncan Smith. Originally, the question was whether to put it down to simple stupidity, as he didn’t understand that the numbers he promised were impossible. But his motives and state of mind hardly matter to the millions affected by his evidence-free, faith-based policy-making.
His big speech on welfare reform was a paean of self-praise. It was a sublime response to a battery of critics who include Treasury briefers, the National Audit Office on the failure of his work programme, the chair of the UK Statistics Authority for his abuse of figures, and the Major Projects Authority awarding his universal credit an amber/red warning.
“We are fixing society” says Duncan Smith. His great claim is that his reforms have been the key driver in getting people back to work. He takes the credit for Labour’s success in raising the number of single mothers in work from 46% to 58%. He says it’s higher than ever now, which is true – but only up by 2% in his time. He hurls accusations at Labour’s welfare bill: expert Declan Gaffney says Labour cut the bill and kept it stable as a % of GDP until the crash. It peaked in 2012 on IDS’s watch.
“There is a lot of misleading talk about sanctions” says Duncan Smith. Indeed there is, by him. He must know how his Jobcentre Plus offices have become sanction factories, his staff under unbearable pressure to cut people off. There are traps, hazards both moral and practical, in any benefit system. These deserve debate – but IDS prefers falsifications of reality.
For the whole article:-
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/12/iain-duncan-smith-welfare-reform-benefits
Re: Iain Duncan Smith
Many politicians have been unapologetic liars and many more incompetent and spiteful.
But there is something akin to evil about Duncan Smith, both in his actions and the sheer pleasure he gets from his deeds.
I wouldn't cross the road to assist him for fear of an irresistible urge to make much, much worse whatever was afflicting him ...
But there is something akin to evil about Duncan Smith, both in his actions and the sheer pleasure he gets from his deeds.
I wouldn't cross the road to assist him for fear of an irresistible urge to make much, much worse whatever was afflicting him ...
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Personally, I think he has a mental illness - his steadfast denial of obvious facts in favour of his wrong-headed and evidence-free theories reminds me of some of the patients I dealt with in the regional secure unit.
In a fairer world, maybe IDS would be locked up for his own protection and the protection of the community
In a fairer world, maybe IDS would be locked up for his own protection and the protection of the community
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In the world of David Cameron, it's probably not unhelpful to have someone around who is even easier to dislike.
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So, possibly mentally-ill; cruel and despicable, and detached from reality. No wonder the bastard made it to be Tory Party Leader...
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I've never believed in the death penalty - but I sometimes wonder if I could swallow my principles and make an exception if mass murderer Iain Duncan Smith is ever brought to justice for the heinous crimes he's inflicted on the poor, the sick and the disabled.
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Yet more evidence (as if it were needed) of the deceit and incompetence of that lying scumbag Iain Duncan Smith:-
Spending watchdog accuses DWP of hiding universal credit's failings
Public accounts committee says that categorising the scheme as 'reset' may have been to prevent scrutiny and hide problems.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/19/universal-credit-failings-pac-accuses-dwp
Spending watchdog accuses DWP of hiding universal credit's failings
Public accounts committee says that categorising the scheme as 'reset' may have been to prevent scrutiny and hide problems.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/19/universal-credit-failings-pac-accuses-dwp
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You can fool some of the people some of the time, IDS,
but ....
but ....
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...you can fool some people all of the time...
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How nasty does The Nasty Party have to get before voters realise that there is an alternative?
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They won't be learned because IDS refuses to believe things like this happen.Ivan wrote:Another reason why Iain Duncan Smith should be put on trial and then jailed for abusing human rights:-
'Lessons must be learned' from diabetic former soldier, who died after benefits sanction
A Stevenage diabetic who could not afford electricity to keep his insulin cool died after his benefits were stopped. His jobseeker’s allowance of approximately £70 a week – on which his family says he was reliant – had been suspended three weeks before on June 28 last year, for missing meetings.
According to his family, Mr Clapson was found “alone, penniless and starving” a short distance from a pile of printed CVs, with nothing to his name but £3.44, six tea bags, a tin of soup and an out-of-date tin of sardines. The coroner found that David – a former BT engineer of 16 years, who had served two years in Northern Ireland with the Royal Corps of Signals during The Troubles – had nothing in his stomach when he died.
http://www.theadvertisergroup.co.uk/Daily-News/Stevenage/Lessons-must-be-learned-from-diabetic-former-soldier-who-died-after-benefits-sanction-20140722174205.htm
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How long before the DWP turns its attention on working pensioners not paying National Insurance or Prescription Charges?
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I AM classed as an invalid, and they have been making me go to meetings for jobs ever since this new guy came in at the works and pensions dept, every 6months attended whether completely well or not or monies were stopped or reduced until I DID.
Then they found that this guy was doing the fraudulent things and sacked him, heard nothing since.
Then they found that this guy was doing the fraudulent things and sacked him, heard nothing since.
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It will be interesting to see weather Iain Dumkopf Schmidt will be able to retain its Parliamentary seat come May 2015? let alone be trusted with a ministry.
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IDS emerges again.........
Yet another idea which will trailed outside of the South East........
Benefits to be paid onto smart cards to stop claimants spending their money on alcohol or gambling
Iain Duncan Smith announces plan to control claimants' spending.
Work and Pensions Secretary says he wants to 'safeguard' people.
Plan will help to 'break the cycle of poverty for families on the margins'.
Trial in North Tyneside will be examined by a future Tory government.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773857/Benefits-paid-smart-cards-stop-claimants-spending-money-alcohol-gambling.html#ixzz3EjZRKEE9
Yet another idea which will trailed outside of the South East........
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The original 'Despicable Me'...
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Photograph good for darts practice Phil.
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Just when you think the man couldn't become any more despicable...
Iain Duncan Smith wants to tax disability benefits
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/iain-duncan-smith-wants-to-tax-disability-benefits-9775338.html
Iain Duncan Smith wants to tax disability benefits
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/iain-duncan-smith-wants-to-tax-disability-benefits-9775338.html
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I imagine this measure, as well as being senseless on all sorts of humanitarian grounds, will actually cost more to implement than the amount of tax it will raise - win/win for the government - causing increased suffering and also wasting more taxpayers money
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In the harshest Liberal Democrat attack on the Conservatives at the party’s conference, the business secretary said the chancellor was “ideologically obsessed by [spending] cuts” because he wanted to destroy public services and the welfare state. He described the Tories as “Ukip but without the beer” and said they had a “born-to-rule arrogance”.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/vince-cable-tory-pledge-to-balance-budget-without-raising-taxes-is-a-lie/ar-BB7PM9r
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Is this, we ask, an attempt to get himself summarily sacked , thereby giving Clegg the excuse to cut ties with the Coalition in protest?
I feel we can be sure that such 'spoiling for a fight' must have some purpose and, if it doesn't, what are the pathetic LibDumbs doing still pandering to the Tories at every turn when Parliamentary votes are in the offing?
Politics? What a shambles...
I feel we can be sure that such 'spoiling for a fight' must have some purpose and, if it doesn't, what are the pathetic LibDumbs doing still pandering to the Tories at every turn when Parliamentary votes are in the offing?
Politics? What a shambles...
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That should have been said by a labour mp though should it not?
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Yesterday the DWP website was down ALL DAY - that means, all day they were unable to deal with telephone or any other queries, unable to process emergency payments, unable to carry on processing claims already in the system - our local food bank got more custom
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Well on a Monday boatlady, that is pretty disgusting that they could not get someone in to fix that problem immediately also, they only had to click in to the next towns computer system to fix it for the time being.
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No - it was a nationwide failure - even worse when you realise ALL DWP business is now online
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Bloody hell boatlady, that's why it was permanently engaged whilst I was calling them yesterday?
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Hi Stuart - should be better today - came back on about 10 yesterday and by the time I finished my day, waiting times on the phone were about back to normal
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