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Post by Ivan on Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:29 pm

If you are unfortunate enough to get in a discussion with a UKIP supporter, the odds are that if that person feels cornered on the arguments in favour of the EU and immigration, he or she will move the goalposts and start talking about child abuse. You have to be sick to try to make political capital out of that, but nevertheless the ‘argument’ will be switched to the Rotherham scandal.

That, of course, is a perfect topic for UKIP. They can bash immigrants and imply, or even claim, that all paedophiles (rather than just a minority) are of Pakistani origin. And there's more. It’s hardly surprising that mindless UKIP supporters, who eternally parrot “LibLabCon”, “EUSSR” and “we want our country back”, will blame everyone who votes Labour for the abuse, on the basis that a Labour council was in control of Rotherham at the time.

All issues are one-dimensional to UKIP boneheads and have simplistic causes. They don’t consider that the police were hesitant about bringing prosecutions because they were too reliant on victims coming forward, and that when they did complain many of the potential witnesses were unreliable. No account is taken of the concern of the police that they would be labelled racist if they acted unsuccessfully against a number of people of the same ethnicity. No consideration is given to the sad fact that children are abused all over the country, and that there was another gang of abusers in Oxford. No, as far as many UKIP supporters are concerned, children were abused in Rotherham, Rotherham had a Labour council, so all Labour voters support paedophiles. I think that’s the logical fallacy known as ‘false cause’.

But maybe people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones:-

Former UKIP regional chairman Peter Entwistle jailed for grooming children

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Former UKIP candidate jailed in child sex case

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UKIP paedophile royal butler jailed for 12 years

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UKIP candidate - paedophile

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Has Steve Crowther been covering up for a paedophile in the UKIP ranks?

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All the indications are that the Westminster paedophile ring of the 1980s was predominantly, but not exclusively, Tory. I strongly suspect that its exposure has been prevented, or at least delayed, because the Tories are in government. I don't want to make political capital out of child abuse, but I do want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. All I’m doing in this post is countering the disgusting UKIP smear that somehow paedophilia is a Labour speciality. And although Labour councillors in Rotherham might well be accused of negligence concerning what occurred on their watch, I won’t take any lessons from supporters of a party which has had candidates and officials who are ‘hands on’ child abusers.
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Re: Paedophiles and politicians

Post by boatlady on Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:47 am

There are some occupations that provide opportunities for gaining access to unprotected children - taxi driving can be one of them (as in Rotherham) entertainment industry can be another (as with Jimmy Saville et al). Politicians can be seen as being above reproach and can therefore have such opportunities


HOWEVER -- this does not mean that all taxi drivers, entertainers and politicians are child abusers - merely that those are occupations that give access, and may therefore be attractive occupations for individuals that want that access.

I believe in Rotherham most of the abusers were taxi drivers
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Re: Paedophiles and politicians

Post by Ivan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 am

Please point this out to UKIP supporters:-

The grooming and sexual exploitation of children by adults happens in every town and city across the country and is “not confined to Asian gangs in gritty northern towns”

Focusing solely on the cases of sexual abuse found in northern parts of the country ignores the possibility that it could happen to young people who do not fit the ‘cliché’.

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:54 pm

It's a Police Matter - not for another political enquiry that kicks everything into the long grass after a couple of years have passed.
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Post by Ivan on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:02 pm

Well done to the home office for delaying the CSA inquiry long enough for another paedophile to conveniently die before he can be brought to justice - and risk dragging some even bigger fish down with him.

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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:51 pm

But at least the notorious English Law of Libel no longer applies.
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Post by Ivan on Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:08 pm

oftenwrong. That copy of 'Private Eye' dates from 9 August 1985. It's been common knowledge for thirty years that Brittan was a paedophile, but few dared to state the fact explicitly because of, as you say, the law of libel.
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Post by Ivan on Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:19 pm

Leon Brittan was under Met probe over claims of child sex abuse

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Scotland Yard was investigating former home secretary Leon Brittan over multiple allegations of sexually abusing boys. The key allegations were that he was a member of the ‘Westminster paedophile network’; that two unidentified men who were part of the network murdered a boy in front of him; that he sexually abused boys at the Carlton Club, in Dolphin Square and at the Elm Guest House.

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It’s hardly surprising that when Geoffrey Dickens MP handed Brittan a dossier in 1983 about VIP paedophile activity, he managed to lose it. The dossier contained evidence of a horrific child abuse scandal, linked to Parliament, Buckingham Palace and other areas of public life. Peter Saunders, founder of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, said: “Perpetrators are still protected at the highest levels and I think it's disgusting. It goes right to the top. It’s just a sordid issue that everyone has tried to keep under the carpet because it’s too big.”
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Post by Ivan on Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:44 am

An extract from 'The Australian', 6 August 2015:-

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:39 am

I blame God. The mechanism designed to ensure continuation of the human species through sexual congress is paramount.

Not everyone is capable of resisting that imperative even in what they should recognise to be unsuitable ways.
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Re: Paedophiles and politicians

Post by Ivan on Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:31 pm

This dates from the general election of 2010, the year before Savile died. Could those be the keys to Broadmoor that he's holding, keys which had been handed to him by Edwina Currie in 1988?  Shocked

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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:39 am

For some reason I'm completely unable to explain, photos of the Trump can put me in mind of Jim fixing it.

Powerful, alpha male imposing a singular view of things whilst courting popularity. Put it down to charisma.
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