Do you know of any councils worse than these?

Wandsworth (Tory). This lovely council has come up with a scheme to throw you out of your home if you can’t get a job, even if there aren’t any jobs. Barnet Council (Tory) has gone further. Under their scheme, people under 25 get kicked out of their home if they don’t get a job. However, if they do get a decent one, the limit for eligibility for a council home has been set at a little less than the household median income for that area (currently at £32,580 per year).

Kensington and Chelsea (Tory) has misused millions of pounds on consultancy contracts. They then got a firm of consultants in to tell them how badly they’ve misused the money, then held the meeting about it in secret because it’s not “in the public interest” for people to know how they’ve misused all the money.

Trafford Borough Council (Tory). One of the Tory councillors there has been charged with seven counts of benefit fraud. The gentleman in question was a party whip, responsible for keeping up standards within the ruling group…..

Shropshire (Tory). The council has made an impressively brazen attempt to clamp down on free speech, combined with a high level of condescension to their residents. They banned Sally Bercow from going into one of the day centres they are planning to close, despite her having been personally invited in there by a user of the centre. They met in the car park instead.

Horsham District Council (Tory) has plans to shut its Broadbridge Heath Leisure Centre next year. Apparently, the centre is usually very busy but the users stand to lose everything - all weather pitches, the indoor track and training facility, the outdoor track and field/ stadium and football pitch, trampolining, badminton, gym, after school clubs, holiday clubs, and the sensory room that they’ve just spent £100,000 on building. It will also mean the end of facilities for people with special needs, an indoor bowls centre, plus all the fitness classes that run and all the other groups that use the facilities. Three GB athletes train at the centre and there are numerous athletes who travel to use the indoor training facilities; the nearest if Broadbridge Heath goes will be Sutton or Ashford. It is also an England badminton centre.

Southampton (Tory). The entire functions of the council are to be privatised, just months after forcing council staff to take a massive pay cut, while Plymouth (Tory) has attempted to “derecognise” trade unions.

Essex County Council (Tory). Lord Hanningfield, ex-council leader and now ex-jailbird, has declared himself “destitute”. Meanwhile, his colleagues are developing plans to make thousands of residents properly destitute by “localising” control of welfare benefits, then slashing both amounts paid and tightening eligibility criteria. Impressive viciousness combined with the ideological drive to become a Tory flagship for uncaring Conservatism and economic illiteracy.

West Lancashire Borough Council (Tory) have managed to completely ignore the fact that around about 20% of their landmass is likely to disappear underwater by 2015. This will happen under Environment Agency plans to turn off two pumping stations and allow once-reclaimed but now rich horticultural land to return to unfarmable marsh. This would cost thousands of jobs in the horticulture industry, and disrupt thousands of lives. Despite having had an official representative on the Environment Agency steering group, the councillors apparently haven’t noticed that a large part of their borough is due to be permanently flooded.

And then there’s the Mayor of London (Tory). Boris Johnson is putting lives at risk in London by taking £30 million from the fire brigade next year and giving it to the Met Police to help him achieve a key election pledge to keep officer numbers high after the Olympics. Ben Sprung, London Fire Brigades Union regional organiser, slammed the move: "The fire service will have lost £50 million over a period of two years, a huge sum we cannot afford. The Tory-controlled fire authority now claims it has so much money to spare it can give away another £30 million. To firefighters it looks like a cynical fix in advance of the GLA elections next year because policing is higher up the election agenda”.

Main source:-
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/17/top-10-terrible-tory-councils-of-the-past-10-weeks/

Be grateful you are not a Tory Councillor. Tory local authorities told to cut services by a Tory government are between a rock and a hard place.

How sad.

sorry ivan,,but we have to house the immigrants one way or another,,and what better way than kick the indigenous out their homes...i mean they are taking all the jobs,,may as well give em all the housing too.

since i come from hull,,i cannot believe there is a more rubbish corrupt council than the labour one that was disgraced here in hull,,in-fact at the time it WAS THEE MOST CORRUPT IN THE UK,,if memory serves me right.

A compelling case is made above by our correspondent from Hull. Indeed, all that appears to be missing is the little matter of some evidence , some capital letters and an ability to use commas appropriately....

i dont dig up shit for you phil

use your own hands.

Don't mess with the power of Intellect.

Westminster City Council transport commissioner Martin Low said today: "A decision was made by Westminster City Council to apply for a traffic management order in consultation with the Metropolitan Police to close a section of Oxford Street to traffic between noon and 8pm today (December 3) and tomorrow (December 4).

"This was a pre-emptive decision in response to concerns about possible crushing on the pavements as a result of narrower walkways, which are being caused by ongoing construction works.


That's the trouble with Christmas. It quietly creeps up on people without any warning.

oftenwrong wrote:

That's the trouble with Christmas. It quietly creeps up on people without any warning.

You have to read the signs. The appearance of Easter Eggs is an early clue...

Mid Devon District Council (Tory) has just awarded its councillors a 23% pay rise. 500 council workers in the district are "enjoying" a pay freeze.

just awarded its councillors a 23% pay rise

Is it me??

I innocently thought that Councillors were paid expenses - same as magistrates.

astra. Councillors get paid an 'allowance' and can claim expenses. These councillors in Devon are giving themselves a 23% rise in their allowance.

Ivan wrote:Wandsworth (Tory). This lovely council has come up with a scheme to throw you out of your home if you can’t get a job, even if there aren’t any jobs. Barnet Council (Tory) has gone further. Under their scheme, people under 25 get kicked out of their home if they don’t get a job. However, if they do get a decent one, the limit for eligibility for a council home has been set at a little less than the household median income for that area (currently at £32,580 per year).

Kensington and Chelsea (Tory) has misused millions of pounds on consultancy contracts. They then got a firm of consultants in to tell them how badly they’ve misused the money, then held the meeting about it in secret because it’s not “in the public interest” for people to know how they’ve misused all the money.

Trafford Borough Council (Tory). One of the Tory councillors there has been charged with seven counts of benefit fraud. The gentleman in question was a party whip, responsible for keeping up standards within the ruling group…..

Shropshire (Tory). The council has made an impressively brazen attempt to clamp down on free speech, combined with a high level of condescension to their residents. They banned Sally Bercow from going into one of the day centres they are planning to close, despite her having been personally invited in there by a user of the centre. They met in the car park instead.

Horsham District Council (Tory) has plans to shut its Broadbridge Heath Leisure Centre next year. Apparently, the centre is usually very busy but the users stand to lose everything - all weather pitches, the indoor track and training facility, the outdoor track and field/ stadium and football pitch, trampolining, badminton, gym, after school clubs, holiday clubs, and the sensory room that they’ve just spent £100,000 on building. It will also mean the end of facilities for people with special needs, an indoor bowls centre, plus all the fitness classes that run and all the other groups that use the facilities. Three GB athletes train at the centre and there are numerous athletes who travel to use the indoor training facilities; the nearest if Broadbridge Heath goes will be Sutton or Ashford. It is also an England badminton centre.

Southampton (Tory). The entire functions of the council are to be privatised, just months after forcing council staff to take a massive pay cut, while Plymouth (Tory) has attempted to “derecognise” trade unions.

Essex County Council (Tory). Lord Hanningfield, ex-council leader and now ex-jailbird, has declared himself “destitute”. Meanwhile, his colleagues are developing plans to make thousands of residents properly destitute by “localising” control of welfare benefits, then slashing both amounts paid and tightening eligibility criteria. Impressive viciousness combined with the ideological drive to become a Tory flagship for uncaring Conservatism and economic illiteracy.

West Lancashire Borough Council (Tory) have managed to completely ignore the fact that around about 20% of their landmass is likely to disappear underwater by 2015. This will happen under Environment Agency plans to turn off two pumping stations and allow once-reclaimed but now rich horticultural land to return to unfarmable marsh. This would cost thousands of jobs in the horticulture industry, and disrupt thousands of lives. Despite having had an official representative on the Environment Agency steering group, the councillors apparently haven’t noticed that a large part of their borough is due to be permanently flooded.

And then there’s the Mayor of London (Tory). Boris Johnson is putting lives at risk in London by taking £30 million from the fire brigade next year and giving it to the Met Police to help him achieve a key election pledge to keep officer numbers high after the Olympics. Ben Sprung, London Fire Brigades Union regional organiser, slammed the move: "The fire service will have lost £50 million over a period of two years, a huge sum we cannot afford. The Tory-controlled fire authority now claims it has so much money to spare it can give away another £30 million. To firefighters it looks like a cynical fix in advance of the GLA elections next year because policing is higher up the election agenda”.

Main source:-
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/17/top-10-terrible-tory-councils-of-the-past-10-weeks/

This is unusual because when the council budgets where set by "WHO ATE ALL THE PIES" Pickles the Tory councils where getting better deals than Labour councils but you should know by now what the Tories are like, but it just goes to show the Tory councils can not manage on the budget and that says it all.

One good piece of news in local government concerns the London mayoral election, due on 3 May this year. YouGov polling reveals that since June last year, there has been a 5% swing from Boris Johnson to Ken Livingstone:-
June 2011 - Johnson 54, Livingstone 46
January 2012 - Johnson 49, Livingstone 51

The latest poll asked "who is in touch with the concerns of ordinary people?", a question to which 40% replied Livingstone and 13% said Johnson. Londoners consider tackling crime, improving transport and easing the cost of living are the most important issues. Johnson keeps increasing bus fares at rates above inflation, and that's certainly reduced his popularity.

Ivan wrote:One good piece of news in local government concerns the London mayoral election, due on 3 May this year. YouGov polling reveals that since June last year, there has been a 5% swing from Boris Johnson to Ken Livingstone:-
June 2011 - Johnson 54, Livingstone 46
January 2012 - Johnson 49, Livingstone 51

The latest poll asked "who is in touch with the concerns of ordinary people?", a question to which 40% replied Livingstone and 13% said Johnson. Londoners consider tackling crime, improving transport and easing the cost of living are the most important issues. Johnson keeps increasing bus fares at rates above inflation, and that's certainly reduced his popularity.

That is not good news that is fcuking brilliant news, do you think Boris's clamour for an Airport costing £50 Billion what do you think the citizens of London will think of that?

Redflag wrote:

Ivan wrote:One good piece of news in local government concerns the London mayoral election, due on 3 May this year. YouGov polling reveals that since June last year, there has been a 5% swing from Boris Johnson to Ken Livingstone:-
June 2011 - Johnson 54, Livingstone 46
January 2012 - Johnson 49, Livingstone 51

The latest poll asked "who is in touch with the concerns of ordinary people?", a question to which 40% replied Livingstone and 13% said Johnson. Londoners consider tackling crime, improving transport and easing the cost of living are the most important issues. Johnson keeps increasing bus fares at rates above inflation, and that's certainly reduced his popularity.

That is not good news that is fcuking brilliant news, do you think Boris's clamour for an Airport costing £50 Billion what do you think the citizens of London will think of that?

not a great deal Red. Doris is there to be shot at over this. as his Airport is close to Tory seats. that will pee them right off in my view

Ivan wrote:Wandsworth (Tory). This lovely council has come up with a scheme to throw you out of your home if you can’t get a job, even if there aren’t any jobs. Barnet Council (Tory) has gone further. Under their scheme, people under 25 get kicked out of their home if they don’t get a job. However, if they do get a decent one, the limit for eligibility for a council home has been set at a little less than the household median income for that area (currently at £32,580 per year).

Kensington and Chelsea (Tory) has misused millions of pounds on consultancy contracts. They then got a firm of consultants in to tell them how badly they’ve misused the money, then held the meeting about it in secret because it’s not “in the public interest” for people to know how they’ve misused all the money.

Trafford Borough Council (Tory). One of the Tory councillors there has been charged with seven counts of benefit fraud. The gentleman in question was a party whip, responsible for keeping up standards within the ruling group…..

Shropshire (Tory). The council has made an impressively brazen attempt to clamp down on free speech, combined with a high level of condescension to their residents. They banned Sally Bercow from going into one of the day centres they are planning to close, despite her having been personally invited in there by a user of the centre. They met in the car park instead.

Horsham District Council (Tory) has plans to shut its Broadbridge Heath Leisure Centre next year. Apparently, the centre is usually very busy but the users stand to lose everything - all weather pitches, the indoor track and training facility, the outdoor track and field/ stadium and football pitch, trampolining, badminton, gym, after school clubs, holiday clubs, and the sensory room that they’ve just spent £100,000 on building. It will also mean the end of facilities for people with special needs, an indoor bowls centre, plus all the fitness classes that run and all the other groups that use the facilities. Three GB athletes train at the centre and there are numerous athletes who travel to use the indoor training facilities; the nearest if Broadbridge Heath goes will be Sutton or Ashford. It is also an England badminton centre.

Southampton (Tory). The entire functions of the council are to be privatised, just months after forcing council staff to take a massive pay cut, while Plymouth (Tory) has attempted to “derecognise” trade unions.

Essex County Council (Tory). Lord Hanningfield, ex-council leader and now ex-jailbird, has declared himself “destitute”. Meanwhile, his colleagues are developing plans to make thousands of residents properly destitute by “localising” control of welfare benefits, then slashing both amounts paid and tightening eligibility criteria. Impressive viciousness combined with the ideological drive to become a Tory flagship for uncaring Conservatism and economic illiteracy.

West Lancashire Borough Council (Tory) have managed to completely ignore the fact that around about 20% of their landmass is likely to disappear underwater by 2015. This will happen under Environment Agency plans to turn off two pumping stations and allow once-reclaimed but now rich horticultural land to return to unfarmable marsh. This would cost thousands of jobs in the horticulture industry, and disrupt thousands of lives. Despite having had an official representative on the Environment Agency steering group, the councillors apparently haven’t noticed that a large part of their borough is due to be permanently flooded.

And then there’s the Mayor of London (Tory). Boris Johnson is putting lives at risk in London by taking £30 million from the fire brigade next year and giving it to the Met Police to help him achieve a key election pledge to keep officer numbers high after the Olympics. Ben Sprung, London Fire Brigades Union regional organiser, slammed the move: "The fire service will have lost £50 million over a period of two years, a huge sum we cannot afford. The Tory-controlled fire authority now claims it has so much money to spare it can give away another £30 million. To firefighters it looks like a cynical fix in advance of the GLA elections next year because policing is higher up the election agenda”.

Main source:-
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/17/top-10-terrible-tory-councils-of-the-past-10-weeks/

Good post this Ivan

NIN wrote:sorry ivan,,but we have to house the immigrants one way or another,,and what better way than kick the indigenous out their homes...i mean they are taking all the jobs,,may as well give em all the housing too.

since i come from hull,,i cannot believe there is a more rubbish corrupt council than the labour one that was disgraced here in hull,,in-fact at the time it WAS THEE MOST CORRUPT IN THE UK,,if memory serves me right.

Im quite supprised at that NIN because the MP for Hull is Alan Johnstone and he seems to be a fair sort of person and Im not doubting what you have said but was there one thing that was brought to the notice of the public and did anything happen to correct that Im a Labour voter and member so Im shocked at what you have said.

NIN is a BNP supporter and racist, as well as someone who liked to post obscenities and attack other members, so don't take everything he said as being reliable information. I'm afraid that we had to ask him to leave the forum, but in the interests of promoting free speech within the law, I left most of his postings in place.

Ivan wrote:NIN is a BNP supporter and racist, as well as someone who liked to post obscenities and attack other members, so don't take everything he said as being reliable information. I'm afraid that we had to ask him to leave the forum, but in the interests of promoting free speech within the law, I left most of his postings in place.

Why do people behave like that Ivan you know Im on another web site but this by Far is the BEST and that is not Flattery I seem to get on with all but have a lot in common with bobby and Astra I come on here to get a good debate with no name calling and no mud slinging I must say Bluey is a very Honest Tory and does bring good debate to this forum and excepts we are going to have different views you really need to go and take a good look at it Ivan and while Im on the subject thanks so much for asking me on it is much appreciated
and I know Stox and LWS are as happy as pigs in shit, there is another thing I don't think the moderators are not happy with the job there doing and can sometimes be unfair.

Into each life, a little rain must fall.

Scarborough Borough Council will take some licking in this respect.

THEIR LATEST WASTE OF MONEY, buying Ipods for 50 Council members following an over 100,000 signature campaigne to stop them doing so, they already have computers supplied free along with the running costs etc but think a new toy will save money.

They have made monumental mistakes in nearly every department, White Elephants galore far too many to mention and if I did so there would be many deaths people laughing their heads off at sutch incompetance.

Instead of Ipods the money would be better spent on brain surgery for the incompetant set {in my opinion} idiots.

Instead of Ipods the money would be better spent on brain surgery for the incompetant set {in my opinion} idiots. .
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That's always assuming brains are involved. Perhaps IPods ARE NECESSARY to make up for the lack of such things as brains. After all, the young lady on the bank counter the other day had to use her fingers to count something on the slip I handed in. And that's not a joke. Brains are soon to become unnecessary items as more and more gadgets come in.

Now where's my calculator. 2 + 2 = er, er, oh 4

Trevor,

You will find on another thread on here that I have GOOFED big style!

My calculations are WAY WAY out, yet noone has picked up on them!

(maybe only expected from me)

My excuse is a short in the wiring, damaged the battery and made my slide rule illegible!

Honest Guvnor!

The slide rule will never supplant the abacus.

V if you are refering to the million, instead of billion I did pick it up, but as you are a friend, I didn't say anything. Mistakes happen, at least you are Man enough to admit to it. If it helps I too have made a mistake, but it was so trivial, I cant remember what it was.

astra wrote:Trevor,

You will find on another thread on here that I have GOOFED big style!

My calculations are WAY WAY out, yet noone has picked up on them!

(maybe only expected from me)

My excuse is a short in the wiring, damaged the battery and made my slide rule illegible!

Honest Guvnor!

I noticed. Honest Guv. But then I'm a liar

Just got home from watching my local soccer team win again

Bobby, Trevor, OW, it's nice to have friends



(The cheques are in the post)

"The cheques are in the post"

Ah, the second biggest lie in the world.

oftenwrong wrote:"The cheques are in the post"

Ah, the second biggest lie in the world.

[quote]

And the third. 'If you haven't received it yet blame the post Office.'

As for mistakes I thought Scarborough Borough Council were buying i pods so they could all sing to the same tune whilst playing games on the free computers, silly me, it was i pads which I doubt half can spell never mind use.

Do you know of any councils worse than these? How about Kensington Council, with its inadequate response to the Grenfell Tower tragedy, and with ruling Tory councillors who have never been inside a tower block?

This is an extract from how the story was reported in ‘The New York Times’ on 27 June:-

In London, “an accident waiting to happen”

The incineration of Grenfell Tower on 14 June, the deadliest fire in Britain in more than a century, is now a national tragedy. The London police blamed flammable materials used in the façade for the spread of the blaze and said the investigation could bring charges of manslaughter. Hundreds of families were evacuated from five high-rises that posed similar risks.

Residents of Grenfell Tower had complained for years that the 24-storey public housing block invited catastrophe. It lacked fire alarms, sprinklers and a fire escape. It had only a single staircase. And there were concerns about a new aluminium façade that was supposed to improve the building but was now whisking the flames skyward. Survivors have charged that the façade was installed to beautify their housing project for the benefit of wealthy neighbours.

Interviews with tenants, industry executives and fire safety engineers point to a gross failure of government oversight, a refusal to heed warnings from inside Britain and around the world, and a drive to free businesses from the burden of safety regulations. Promising to cut ‘red tape’, business-friendly politicians evidently judged that cost concerns outweighed the risks of allowing flammable materials to be used in façades. Builders in Britain were allowed to wrap residential apartment towers – perhaps several hundred of them – from top to bottom in highly flammable materials, a practice forbidden in the United States and many European countries. And companies did not hesitate to supply the British market.

Today's Guardian contains a long article on the failure of a London Borough to improve the lives of tenants (and right-to-buy owners) on an estate "modernised" by private developers, who cut every corner imaginable to maximise profits.

A blog on this forum to which I have no right to reply, comments on the additional liability imposed upon the Authorities by events such as the Grenfell disaster, which I believe is in no small way a tribute to Social Media, which often has a (deservedly) bad Press.

The difference is that all our national newspapers operate within an "Editorial Policy" decided by the proprietors, sometimes reluctant to call Establishment figures to account.

Let Vox Pop rule!

A blog on this forum to which I have no right to reply

I’m sorry if it all seems cack-handed, but we’ve only ever allowed the owners of blogs to write on them.

You do have a right to reply, just here:-
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t530-feedback-on-a-place-to-stand-in#17304

I think I managed to reply directly - or did I dream it?

boatlady. Administrators and moderators can access every part of the forum, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to do their jobs. Some years ago, Shirina set up feedback on blogs (there were more of them in those days), so that members could respond if they wished. Yes, you did post on a blog, but that meant members couldn’t reply to your message if they wished to do so. So I’ve moved your comment to the feedback thread.

As I said previously, this does all seem cack-handed, and perhaps the forum staff should discuss the best way forward. It probably would make more sense if comments on a specific post appeared underneath it, rather than on a separate thread.