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Post by witchfinder on Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:42 am

Basildon council are correct in saying that planning regulations have been broken, and they are also correct in saying that there cannot be one law for one, and a different law for another, and it seems to most people that they have followed all the correct legal channels.

But Basildon council are guilty of failing to offer any form of alternative site for these travellers, even though possible, alternative sites were offered and put forward with the help of Richard Howitt, an MEP for the East Of England, the council clearly couldent give a damn where these people go.

The United Kingdom will be seen all accross Europe as a brutal, uncaring police style state on the front covers of newspapers, and on tv screens tonight and tomorrow, no doubt we will come in for some quite heavy, but deserved criticism.

In a normal situation, when a family is made homeless or evicted, the council MUST offer alternative accomodation, but because these people are travellers, that rule does not apply, quite simply a case of discrimination.

I can see the argument that placing caravans, trailers, mobile homes on plots of land without proper permission is not acceptable, but it dosent stop there, if we were a decent, civilised country, we would make every effort to find an alternative and acceptable site somewhere else, especialy considering there are children, elderly people and people with health issues.

Shame on this country

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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:35 am

A different tune might be played by someone finding a clutch of caravans suddenly appear opposite their home.
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Post by astra on Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:24 pm

The United Kingdom will be seen all accross Europe as a brutal, uncaring police style state on the front covers of newspapers



Good!!


If this keeps half the begging shyte out then it's done the job

(If Witchy and Astra could get the SAME benefits in their country as they do in ours then I would say a level playing field and well enough)
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Post by jackthelad on Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:56 pm

Most manning the barricades wasn't travellers, (if you can still call them that)but the usual rent a mob and anachists. Instead of the riot police going in first, it should have been the bulldozers, flattened anything that came in front of them. If anyone needs to get hurt it's those trouble makers, not the police, or any other innocent person who is just obeying the law. No one is above the law, even if you don't like the law, you can't just pick and choose what law you are going to abide by. They had there days in court and failed, now they need to leave peacefully, there is no wonder most of the population dislikes them and their attitudes.
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Post by oftenwrong on Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:08 pm

It's probably safe to assume that the Authorities have no intention of creating martyrs.
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Post by atv on Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:31 pm

Why are these people called travellers, when surely they should be called settlers?

I wonder how many of those NIMBY protesters would sing a different tune if they moved outside their or their parents property?

Why are so many of those protesters wearing masks?

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Post by whitbyforklift on Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:11 pm

Sorry my good friend Witchfinder but I think you are wrong.
If (and I am glad he did not) Hitler had won won world war 2 these so called travellers would not exist.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:27 pm

Dale Farm Travellers Contemplate Fresh Start

( gypsyroyals.com)

" I say, old boy - can you direct me to Pease Pottage...?"
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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:41 pm

What in God's name is "pease pottage?"
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Post by astradt1 on Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:48 pm

It's a secret code word..........................................
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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:26 pm

witchfinder wrote:
The United Kingdom will be seen all accross Europe as a brutal, uncaring police style state on the front covers of newspapers, and on tv screens tonight and tomorrow, no doubt we will come in for some quite heavy, but deserved criticism.

Perhaps. On this side of the pond, the United Kingdom will be seen all across America USV (three thousand plus miles east to west, closing in on eighteen hundred miles north to south, and that's excluding Alaska and Hawaii), a bit more distance than all across Europe, I do believe, given what I know in my bones about the round trip distance from RAF airfields and Berlin, as a sovereign nation that rightfully exercises its rights and discharges its duties in acting to ensure the blessings of liberty to "ourselves" and "our posterity."

There are some British citizens who post hereon that seem to despise the words of the US Constitution; however, since those words are the end product of thought processes initiated within the borders of what is now the UK, it is altogether fitting and proper to find that those words apply so appropriately to the actions of one of your local councils.

As for any German criticism, as mentioned in another post, had the lords of Germany had their way, by 2011, Romanos would have been just as extinct as Jews. Many are unaware that the Holocaust claimed approximately eleven million innocent souls; six million were Jews, and eleven million minus six million equals five million.

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... these people are travellers, that rule does not apply, quite simply a case of discrimination.

Not necessarily. Discrimination, no doubt, but not automatically "a case of discrimination." A "case" implies something which should come under the purview of courts of law, whereas if the discrimination is based upon a standard to which all are required to adhere and to which this group chooses no to adhere, then this discrimination is altogether fitting and proper, and this discrimination forms neither ethical nor moral basis for "a case of discrimination."

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... if we were a decent, civilised country, we would make every effort to find an alternative and acceptable site somewhere else, especialy considering there are children, elderly people and people with health issues.

Y'all are a "decent, civilized country", and a local council enforcing consequences upon people who've chosen to ignore standards to which all are required to adhere will do nothing to change that fat.


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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:28 pm

astradt1 wrote:
It's a secret code word..........................................
So are you telling or teasing?
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Post by astradt1 on Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:32 pm

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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:27 am

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Post by Phil Hornby on Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:24 am

Sorry for the discombobulation.... Sad
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Post by Ivan on Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:01 am

Perhaps the name of this village between Bromley and Sevenoaks in Kent (described as "often the butt of jokes") is even more unusual than Pease Pottage:-

http://www.prattsbottom.co.uk/
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Re: Dale Farm travellers

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:56 am

Maybe these mobile Asbo-zones could be directed to the Gloucestershire villages of Upper Slaughter and Lower Slaughter for processing.
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Post by astra on Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:51 pm

The Norfolk villages of Little Snoring and Great Snoring


The nagging machine beside me did have a comment!
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Post by Shirina on Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:41 pm

Perhaps the name of this village between Bromley and Sevenoaks in Kent (described as "often the butt of jokes") is even more unusual than Pease Pottage:-

I hope everyone bought their tickets for the Trafalgar Meal. It's only £20 for a three course meal and a licensed bar. Hurry, because tickets are going fast! I have my plane seat booked and will be heading to Pratt's Bottom this weekend!
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Post by oftenwrong on Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:03 pm

To be totally authentic, a Trafalgar Meal should be ship's biscuit (remember to tap out the weevils first) pickled pork, and green-slimed water cut with a tot of rum.
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Post by Phil Hornby on Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:28 pm

I am attracted to the name of Chipping Sodbury and am sorely tempted to visit the Conservative Club there... Smile
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:55 pm

The nice thing about it all has been to discover that sometimes there are those worse off than oneself.
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