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Post by skwalker1964 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:48 am

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Here are two true stories:

A friend of mine once picked up a hitch-hiker at a motorway service station. The bloke looked a bit down on his luck, so my friend asked what his story was. The guy said he’d been living in service stations, bathing in the shower facilities at lorry-driver stops, for several days as he tried to make his way from one end of the country to the other to where a hotel job was waiting for him if he could get there. He’d lost all his benefits and had no way to get the money to take a train or bus.

My friend gave this man all the money he had in his pocket, which was £60. The man seemed genuinely overwhelmed and grateful, seemingly unable to believe that someone would give him a fairly serious amount of money within minutes of meeting him, on the basis of the story he’d just related.

I asked my friend whether he thought the man had been genuine, or might he have been ripped off? His answer was that his gut instinct was that the man was for real – but that if he wasn’t, he’d rather be conned than be hard-hearted and risk ignoring someone in genuine need.

By contrast, the incredibly rich (some $287 billion in today’s money) industrialist Andrew Carnegie once famously said that it would be better for the world if a rich man threw his millions into the sea rather than give any to the ‘unworthy’. To be fair to Carnegie, he gave away a vast proportion of his wealth – but the rich and privileged have a long history of presuming that, from their pinnacle of wealth and comfort, they are able to decide who is ‘worthy’ and who isn’t. The concept of the ‘deserving poor‘, by denoting that some poor are by definition not deserving, has resulted in great suffering while allowing the wealthy to feel satisfied with their lack of concern or action.

The current crop of Tories are truly in line with their predecessors in this regard – except that they’re even worse. Even though they can’t possibly be ignorant of the consequences, they push this line in the most cynical way, with the aim of dividing the British public, fooling the undiscerning into allowing or even approving of policies aimed at stripping the vulnerable of crucial protections. And for the basest of reasons – for short-term political gain (persuading some people that the Tories are ‘at least doing something about something!’), and to release even more public funds that can be channelled into tax-cuts for the already-rich or even greater profits for private corporations.

With their limited moral imagination, the Tories really only know two tactics. Both are calculated to appeal to the baser instincts of the small-minded and thoughtless: fear and vilification. There may be different facets or manifestations – they might try to invoke suspicion, or envy, or to dehumanise or caricature one set of people to get another set to back their policies – but the roots are the same.

I’m working on a post about economic fear and the way that’s fostered by government spokespeople and tame media, but it’s proving to be quite a big project and I’m not going to be online much over the next few days, so it will be a little while in coming. But the other tactic – vilification or demonisation of the vulnerable or resistant – is so plain that this post almost writes itself. Whether explicitly or in the omission, the Tories are at it constantly.

Just in recent weeks, we’ve had:


  • Iain Duncan-Smith accusing Britons of not working hard enough, while bare-facedly distorting figures on fraudulent claims for disability benefit (claiming a 30% fraud rate when in fact it’s bare over one percent) to gain public support for his hateful Welfare Reform Act.


  • A smug Frances Maude announcing that the bottom 10% of civil servants has a year to improve or be fired – conveniently leaving out the fact that if everyone in the civil service was a workaholic genius, there would still be a bottom 10%. Being at the bottom doesn’t mean you’re incompetent or unproductive. He insists that this is not an ‘attack’ on the civil service, even though at the same time he’s making cuts of 25% in civil servant numbers and talking of removing any terms and conditions that are better than those of the private sector that the Tories and their pals have already robbed.


  • Andrew Lansley calling on doctors not to take industrial action and having his department and tame journalists conduct an orchestrated propaganda campaign to persuade the public that doctors are rich, privileged, selfish and uncaring of their patients (‘After all’, he might as well say, ‘we’ve robbed the rest of the public sector, why should doctors be any different?’) This in spite of the fact that the doctors’ pension scheme is not in shortfall and that the Health Secretary, having specifically abdicated his legal responsibility for healthcare provision in his new Health & Social Care Act, is really not entitled to comment one way or the other, let alone to impose new pension terms.


  • David Cameron underlining again that the Tories are on the side of ‘strivers’, thereby saying that they’re not on the side of anyone who can’t strive, or who simply wants to live a decent, balanced life.


  • Iain Duncan-Smith (again!) announcing plans to remove benefits from anyone who dares strike against the removal of pay, pensions, conditions and protection that is now the norm for the treatment of ordinary working people.


  • Claims by Communities Minister Eric Pickles, vocally supported by Housing Minister Grant Shapps and many others, and by the right-wing press, that the UK has 120,000 ‘problem families’ who cause 80% of societal problems, even though not one of the criteria used to decide who is a ‘problem family’ relates to criminality, but instead refer to poverty and physical or mental illness.


  • Endlessly repeated soundbites about ‘benefit scroungers’ to justify capping housing benefit, even though the vast majority of people receiving this benefit are working, but can’t afford outrageous rents.


  • Cameron and others vilifying transport workers for daring to plan industrial action during the Olympic Games money-making exercise, even though industrial action is really their only negotiating weapon and it’s perfectly sensible for them to aim it at the periods when it will be most effective. The Tories really do want a workforce that’s powerless to stand up for itself.


I could go on, but I want to keep this post to a readable length.

The aim of all these policies and pronouncements is very clear: persuading whichever sections of the public that are not affected by a particular measure that those who are affected are not worthy of support, and definitely not worthy of help.

The consequences of these and other Tory measures are not hard to imagine – and they’re already being played out. Disabled, ill or mentally ill people spend their days in fear at the prospect of having their benefits stopped because they’re ludicrously assessed as fit for work, while some even attempt or commit suicide. People are forced to accept part-time ‘work’ that offers few (or even zero!) hours while the government crows that it has reduced unemployment; jobless people are forced to work for free and sleep under bridges by companies who ruthlessly exploit them to maximise profit. And so on.

In this context, it’s patently clear that the Tories’ policies, attitudes, sleaze, self-enrichment and their unholy alliance with powerful corporate and media interests show that they are not fit to judge a vegetable show, let alone judge whether a vulnerable person is ‘worthy’ of help.

Fortunately, we get to choose whether we believe them. To choose whether we agree with the kind of approach to life that says that, while no system is perfect, it’s much better to err on the side of goodness than of suspicion and selfishness, that it’s better to set up or protect systems that protect the genuine many than one which might prevent a very few ‘playing the system’ but that also strands people in genuine need in a situation of despair. We have the privilege of deciding what kind of society we want to be.

From everything I’ve written, you’ll probably have guessed that I absolutely agree with my friend, rather than with Carnegie, about which side it’s better to err on. But Mr Carnegie did say something that I agree with very much:

‘A man who dies rich dies disgraced’

In our current government, and in the people who support and fund them, we have a lot of walking ‘disgraces in the making’. Let’s think for ourselves, see them for what they are, and not make it easy for them to become even bigger disgraces than they already are.
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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:30 pm

The 11 most senseless benefit sanction decisions known to man

- A man with heart problems who was on Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) had a heart attack during a work capability assessment. He was then sanctioned for failing to complete the assessment.

- A man who had found a job that was scheduled to begin in two weeks’ time was sanctioned for not looking for work as he waited for the role to start.

- Army veteran Stephen Taylor, 60, had his Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) stopped after he sold poppies in memory of fallen soldiers.

- A man had to miss his regular appointment at the job centre to attend his father’s funeral. He was sanctioned even though he told DWP staff in advance.

- Ceri Padley, 26, had her benefits sanctioned after she missed an appointment at the job centre - because she was at a job interview.

- A man was sanctioned for missing his slot to sign on - as he was attending a work programme interview. He was then sanctioned as he could not afford to travel for his job search.

- Sean Halkyward, 24, said his benefits were sanctioned because he looked for too many jobs in one week.

- Mother-of-three Angie Godwin, 27, said her benefits were sanctioned after she applied for a role job centre staff said was beyond her.

- Sofya Harrison was sanctioned for attending a job interview and moving her signing-on to another day.

- Michael, 54, had his benefits sanctioned for four months for failing to undertake a week’s work experience at a charity shop. The charity shop had told him they didn’t want him there.

- Terry Eaton, 58, was sanctioned because he didn’t have the bus fare he needed to attend an appointment with the job centre.

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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:43 am

A caring government department chooses its words carefully when it writes to benefits claimants:

"We cannot pay you your Jobseekers' Allowance from 28 June 2013," the letter reads. "This is because we recently told you that a decision would be made about a doubt: on whether you failed to comply with the requirements of the scheme to which you have been referred."

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Post by Ivan on Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:03 pm

UK 'is first country to face UN inquiry into disability rights violations'

From an article by Melanie Brown:-

The UK government appears to have become the first country to face a high-level inquiry by a United Nations committee, as a result of "grave or systemic violations" of the rights of disabled people. The committee has the power to launch an inquiry if it receives "reliable information" that such violations have been committed by a country signed up to the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD) and its optional protocol.

So far, the Conservative minister for disabled people, Mark Harper, has failed to comment.


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Post by bobby on Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:50 pm

I'm glad to see someone challenging this evil Government, its just a shame its not the person supposedly leading the opposition.
Come on Mr Miliband pull your finger out, time has run out and you have done eff-all worthy of comment.
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Post by boatlady on Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:32 pm

Saw that piece yesterday - really shows things have come to a pretty pass - I'm not clear who made the original referral? Does it say?
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:28 pm

These investigations are conducted "confidentially", so the UN's Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD) - which is carrying out the inquiry - has refused to confirm or deny that the UK is being investigated.

Elsewhere it has been suggested that any report would in any case be held over until after the next election.

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Post by boatlady on Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:00 pm

Couldn't see any mention of how the case was referred - wondered if anyone knew more than me?
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:33 pm

Only last month, a new report, Dignity and Opportunity for All: Securing the Rights of Disabled People in the Austerity Era, laid bare the coalition's failure to meet its international human rights obligations under both UNCRPD and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR).

That report - published by the Just Fair coalition, which includes Disabled People Against Cuts and Inclusion London - suggested that the UK had gone from being an international leader in disability rights to risking becoming a "systematic violator of these same rights".

Last week, Disability News Service (DNS) reported that CRPD appeared to have postponed its public examination of how the UK has been implementing the disability convention until after next year's general election.


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Post by boatlady on Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:49 am

I know - I struggle constantly
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Post by Ivan on Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:40 pm


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Post by Ivan on Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:19 pm

This tragic list of welfare-related deaths of the UK's sick and disabled has been compiled by Samuel Miller (Twitter ID: @Hephaestus7). He has kindly given me permission to re-post it in full here:-

Terry McGarvey, 48. Dangerously ill from polycytheamia, Terry asked for an ambulance to be called during his Work Capability Assessment. He knew that he wasn't well enough to attend his WCA but feared that his benefits would be stopped if he did not. He died the following day.

Elaine Lowe, 53. Suffering from COPD and fearful of losing her benefits. In desperation, Elaine chose to commit suicide.

Mark Wood, 44. Found fit for work by Atos, against his Doctors advice and assertions that he had complex mental health problems. Starved to death after benefits stopped, weighing only 5st 8lb when he died.

Paul Reekie, 48, the Leith-based Poet and Author. Suffered from severe depression. Committed suicide after DWP stopped his benefits due to an Atos 'fit for work' decision.

Leanne Chambers, 30. Suffered depression for many years which took a turn for the worst when she was called in for a WCA. Leanne committed suicide soon after.

Karen Sherlock, 44. Multiple health issues. Found fit for work by Atos and denied benefits. Fought a long battle to get placed into the support group of ESA. Karen died the following month of a heart attack.

Carl Payne, 42. Fears of losing his lifeline benefits due to welfare reform led this Father of two to take his own life.

Tim Salter, 53. Blind and suffering from Agoraphobia. Tim hanged himself after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.

Edward Jacques, 47 and suffering from HIV and Hepatitis C. Edward had a history of severe depression and self-harm. He took a fatal overdose after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.

Linda Wootton, 49. A double heart and lung transplant patient. Died just nine days after the government found her fit for work, their refusal letter arriving as she lay desperately ill in her hospital bed.

Steven Cawthra, 55. His benefits stopped by the DWP and with rising debts, he saw suicide as the only way out of a desperate situation

Elenore Tatton, 39. Died just weeks after the government found her fit for work.

John Walker, 57, saddled with debt because of the bedroom tax, John took his own life.

Brian McArdle, 57. Suffered a fatal heart attack the day after his disability benefits were stopped.

Stephen Hill, 53. Died of a heart attack one month after being found fit for work, even though he was waiting for major heart surgery.

Jacqueline Harris, 53. A former Nurse who could hardly walk was found fit for work by Atos and her benefits withdrawn. in desperation, she took her own life.

David Barr, 28. Suffering from severe mental difficulties. Threw himself from a bridge after being found fit for work by Atos and failing his appeal.

David Groves, 56. Died of a heart attack the night before taking his work capability assessment. His widow claimed that it was the stress that killed him.

Nicholas Peter Barker, 51. Shot himself after being told his benefits were being stopped. He was unable to work after a brain haemorrhage left him paralysed down one side.

Mark and Helen Mullins, 48 and 59. Forced to live on £57.50 a week and make 12 mile trips each week to get free vegetables to make soup. Mark and Helen both committed suicide.

Richard Sanderson, 44. Unable to find a job and with his housing benefit cut forcing him to move, but with nowhere to go. Richard committed suicide.

Martin Rust, 36. A schizophrenic man who killed himself two months after the government found him fit to work.

Craig Monk, 43. A vulnerable gentleman and a partial amputee who slipped so far into poverty that he hanged himself.

Colin Traynor, 29, and suffering from epilepsy was stripped of his benefits. He appealed. Five weeks after his death his family found he had won his appeal.

Elaine Christian, 57. Worried about her work capability assessment, she was subsequently found at Holderness drain, drowned and with ten self inflicted wrist wounds.

Christelle and Kayjah Pardoe, 32 years and 5 months old. Pregnant, her benefits stopped, Christelle, clutching her baby son jumped from a third floor balcony.

Mark Scott, 46. His DLA and housing benefit stopped and sinking into deep depression, Mark died six weeks later.

Cecilia Burns, 51. Found fit for work while undergoing treatment for breast cancer. She died just a few weeks after she won her appeal against the Atos decision.

Chris Cann, 57. Found dead in his home just months after being told he had to undergo a medical assessment to prove he could not work.

Peter Hodgson, 49. Called to JCP to see if he was suitable for volunteer work. Peter had suffered a stroke, a brain haemorrhage and had a fused leg. His appointment letter arrived a few days after he took his own life.

Paul Willcoxsin, 33. Suffered with mental health problems and worried about government cuts. Paul committed suicide by hanging himself.

Stephanie Bottrill, 53. After paying £80 a month for bedroom tax, Stephanie could not afford heating in the winter, and lived on tinned custard. In desperation, she chose to walk in front of a lorry.

Larry Newman suffered from a degenerative lung condition, his weight dropping from 10 to 7 stone. Atos awarded him zero points, he died just three months after submitting his appeal.

Paul Turner, 52. After suffering a heart attack, he was ordered to find a job in February. In April Paul died from ischaemic heart disease.

Christopher Charles Harkness, 39. After finding out that the funding for his care home was being withdrawn, this man who suffered with mental health issues, took his own life.

Sandra Louise Moon, 57. Suffering from a degenerative back condition, depression and increasingly worried about losing her incapacity benefit. Sandra committed suicide by taking an overdose.

Lee Robinson, 39. Took his own life after his housing benefit and council tax were taken away from him.

David Coupe, 57. A Cancer sufferer found fit for work by Atos in 2012. David lost his sight, then his hearing, then his mobility, and then his life.

Michael McNicholas, 34. Severely depressed and a recovering alcoholic. Michael committed suicide after being called in for a Work Capability Assessment by Atos.

Victor Cuff, 59 and suffering from severe depression. Victor hanged himself after the DWP stopped his benefits.

Charles Barden, 74. Charles committed suicide by hanging due to fears that the Bedroom Tax would leave him destitute and unable to cope.

Ian Caress, 43. Suffered multiple health issues and deteriorating eyesight. Ian was found fit for work by Atos, he died ten months later having lost so much weight that his family said that he resembled a concentration camp victim.

Iain Hodge, 30. Suffered from the life threatening illness, Hughes Syndrome. Found fit for work by Atos and benefits stopped, Iain took his own life.

Wayne Grew, 37. Severely depressed due to government cuts and the fear of losing his job, Wayne committed suicide by hanging.

Kevin Bennett, 40. Kevin a sufferer of schizophrenia and mental illness became so depressed after his JSA was stopped that he became a virtual recluse. Kevin was found dead in his flat several months later.

David Elwyn Hughs Harries, 48. A disabled man who could no longer cope after his parents died, could find no help from the government via benefits. David took an overdose as a way out of his solitude.

Denis Jones, 58. A disabled man crushed by the pressures of government cuts, in particular the Bedroom Tax, and unable to survive by himself. Denis was found dead in his flat.

Shaun Pilkington, 58. Unable to cope any more, Shaun shot himself dead after receiving a letter from the DWP informing him that his ESA was being stopped.

Paul ?, 51. Died in a freezing cold flat after his ESA was stopped. Paul appealed the decision and won on the day that he lost his battle to live.

Chris MaGuire, 61. Deeply depressed and incapable of work, Chris was summonsed by Atos for a Work Capability Assessment and deemed fit for work. On appeal, a judge overturned the Atos decision and ordered them to leave him alone for at least a year, which they did not do. In desperation, Chris took his own life, unable to cope anymore.

Peter Duut, a Dutch national with terminal cancer living in the UK for many years found that he was not entitled to benefits unless he was active in the labour market. Peter died leaving his wife destitute, and unable to pay for his funeral.

George Scollen, age unknown. Took his own life after the government closed the Remploy factory he had worked in for 40 years.

Julian Little, 47. Wheelchair bound and suffering from kidney failure, Julian faced the harsh restrictions of the Bedroom Tax and the loss of his essential dialysis room. He died shortly after being ordered to downgrade.

Miss DE, Early 50s. Suffering from mental illness, this lady committed suicide less than a month after an Atos assessor gave her zero points and declared her fit for work.

Robert Barlow, 47. Suffering from a brain tumour, a heart defect and awaiting a transplant, Robert was deemed fit for work by Atos and his benefits were withdrawn. He died penniless less than two years later.

Carl Joseph Foster-Brown, 58. As a direct consequence of the wholly unjustifiable actions of the Job centre and DWP, this man took his own life.

Martin Hadfield, 20. Disillusioned with the lack of jobs available in this country but too proud to claim benefits. Utterly demoralised, Martin took his own life by hanging himself.

Annette Francis, 30. A mum-of-one suffering from severe mental illness, found dead after her disability benefits were ceased.

Ian Jordan, 60. His benefits slashed after Atos and the DWP declared Ian, a sufferer of Barratt's Oesophagus, fit for work, caused him to run up massive debts in order to survive. Ian was found dead in his flat after taking an overdose.

Janet McCall, 53. Terminally ill with pulmonary fibrosis and declared 'Fit for Work' by Atos and the DWP, this lady died 5 months after her benefits were stopped.

Stuart Holley, 23. A man driven to suicide by the DWP's incessant pressure and threat of sanctions for not being able to find a job.

Graham Shawcross, 63. A sufferer of the debilitating disease, Addison's. Died of a heart attack due to the stress of an Atos 'Fit for Work' decision.

David Clapson, 59 years old. A diabetic ex-soldier deprived of the means to survive by the DWP and the governments harsh welfare reforms, David died all but penniless, starving and alone, his electricity run out.

Chris Smith, 59. Declared 'Fit for Work' by Atos as he lay dying of Cancer in his hospital bed.

Nathan Hartwell, 36, died of heart failure after an 18-month battle with the ­Department for Works and Pensions.

Michael Connolly, 60. A Father of One, increasingly worried about finances after his benefits were cut. Committed suicide by taking 13 times the fatal dose of prescription medicine on the 30th October - his birthday.

Jan Mandeville, 52, a lady suffering from Fibromyalgia, driven to the point of mental and physical breakdown by this governments welfare reforms. Jan was found dead in her home after battling the DWP for ESA and DLA.

Trevor Drakard, 50. A shy and reserved, severe epileptic who suffered regular and terrifying fits almost his entire life, hounded to suicide by the DWP who threatened to stop his life-line benefits.

Death of a severely disabled Dorset resident, unnamed, who took her own life while battling the bedroom tax.

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Post by boatlady on Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:57 pm

Shameful as that is, I think it's actually only a partial list - there are I believe many who die in similar circumstances whose story is never known.
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Post by ghost whistler on Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:19 pm

That's extremely depressing. But we need to hear and know this stuff because it's not reaching the public domain.

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Post by boatlady on Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:29 pm

You're right - should be on the front page of the Sun
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Post by stuart torr on Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:39 am

Not just the good old sun boatlady, should be on the front page of every newspaper.
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Post by Ivan on Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:58 pm

DWP orders man to work without pay for company that let him go

59-year-old John McArthur is sanctioned by his job centre after refusing ‘forced labour’ at the firm where he was previously paid the minimum wage.

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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:23 pm

IDS, interviewed on BBC Radio, evidently thinks that his policy is working really well. But he still has that frog in the throat which cost him his Leadership of the Tory Party, and which particularly ungracious folk might regard as Divine Intervention.
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Post by stuart torr on Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:39 pm

I am due my ATOS assessment within the next few months so i'm been informed, but seeing my specialists prior to then so will get my letters from them saying that I am not, but see what they say.
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Post by boatlady on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:06 pm

Oh, good luck with that Stu - it's a really nervous time, I know
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Post by stuart torr on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:20 pm

I don't usually get nervous boatlady unless they have changed the people? I did not get up until 3pm today after a bad fit, hence have not been out, but only recovered enough to clear the computer at 8pm as I could not understand the messages prior to then, so I just rested on the sofa.
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Post by Ivan on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:30 pm

You need plenty of luck if dealing with ATOS. I understand that, courtesy of the genial Iain Duncan Smith, they operate a Catch 22 policy: if you're well enough to get to the interview, you're well enough to work, but if you are too ill to get there you are disqualified for non-attendance. Cruelty doesn't start to describe their modus operandi. Evil or Very Mad
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Post by stuart torr on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:48 pm

You are allowed to take a person with you for the ATOS are you not Ivan? i'm sure you are, and I will take my solicitor.
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Post by Ivan on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:10 pm

Yet more evidence…..  Twisted Evil

Work Programme adviser: ‘Almost every day one of my clients mentioned feeling suicidal’

From an article by Melissa Viney:-

A scandalous picture of suffering, trauma and destitution is painted by a former Work Programme adviser who was tasked with getting claimants off the employment and support allowance (ESA) sickness benefit.

Speaking to the press for the first time since she quit the job last year, Anna Shaw (not her real name) says: “Some of my clients were homeless, and very many of them had had their money stopped and were literally starving and extremely stressed. Many had extreme mental health conditions, including paranoid schizophrenia, psychosis, bipolar disorder and autism. One guy [diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and homeless] came to see me for the first appointment and mentioned that he had not eaten for five days. I offered him my lunch, thinking he would refuse it out of pride, and he fell upon it like a wild animal. I’ve not seen a human being eat like that before.”

Shaw can only speak out anonymously, because when she resigned, after just a few months in the job, her employer made her sign a confidentiality clause. She believed that the majority of her ESA caseload of about 100 clients were not well enough to have been on the government’s welfare-to-work Work Programme, but should instead have been signposted to charities that could support them with their multiple problems.


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Post by stuart torr on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:34 pm

I have to take my pills for depression and feeling suicidal, and I hate going in strange or open spaces, but I fight everything I have to stop it beating me.

Well haven't slept for a few nights as a big fit has thrown my sleep pattern out so it was an extra tablet tonight to knock me out in a minute when I go to bed, night all.
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:42 am

Did not work in the slightest bit Sad I do not see the point in them all sometimes, am I just poisoning myself?
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Post by Ivan on Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:01 pm

How coalition has helped rich by hitting poor

From an article by Daniel Boffey:-

A landmark study of the coalition’s tax and welfare policies six months before the general election reveals how money has been transferred from the poorest to the better off, apparently refuting the chancellor of the exchequer’s claims that the country has been “all in it together”.

According to research by economists at the London School of Economics and the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex, George Osborne has been engaged in a significant transfer of income from the least well-off half of the population to the more affluent in the past four years. Those with the lowest incomes have been hit hardest.


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Post by stuart torr on Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:57 pm

Do we expect anything any different from the Tories Ivan? starve the poor to keep the rich in mansions in big limos and have servants too.
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:28 pm

It should be obvious by now that nothing is going to change unless Britain elects a Socialist government, so why isn't everyone throwing their weight behind the Labour Party?

Maybe people think the Toffs are genuinely entitled to have all their fun at the expense of the less privileged.
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Post by stuart torr on Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:26 am

I have absolutely no idea on that one OW, BECAUSE it is obvious is it not?
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Post by Mel on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:58 pm

"Maybe people think"

Hello OW, this is the problem my friend. People don't think, they put up with because they are duped by Tory propaganda and the Tory press/media. They have no time to study politics, (not that they are interested in any case), however they are too busy trying to put food on the table, or busy making loads of dosh in some cases. They just see the headines that either flatter the Tories or condemn the Labour Party and particularly Ed.

Dripp drip drip, slowly slowly catchee monkey.
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Post by Mel on Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:02 pm

Former banker Lord Freud’s brutal welfare policies and callous remarks about people on benefits have made him a hate figure - even before the storm over his comments on disabled workers.
The millionaire is the godfather of the Bedroom Tax and oversees Iain Duncan Smith’s botched Universal Credit reforms.
The peer’s life of luxury in a £2million north London mansion and an eight-bedroom weekend home in Kent is a world away from the victims of his actions.
Asked how he could relate to those who struggle, he once said: “You don’t have to be the corpse to go to a funeral.”
The peer, great grandson of Sigmund Freud, went to exclusive Whitgift School, in Croydon, South London, where fees are now up to £33,396 a year.
He was a financial journalist before becoming a City slicker. He retired at 53 claiming he was bored with the Square Mile and later saying: “I spent most of my time firing people.”
He was a Government adviser to Tony Blair but joined the Tory party the year before the last general election. David Cameron made him Baron Freud and a shadow welfare minister.

Baron Freud? Pha!!! more like fraud.
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Post by stuart torr on Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:46 pm

Thank-you Mel.
I learn something new every day which is good for me, so this turncoat fraud, is responsible for disability allowances? also bedroom tax? and such like? well while he lives in luxury the rich S.O.A.B. I shall continue living in my one bedroomed flat that hardly ever gets repairs done by the council, even though I am classed as disabled.
By the way Mel it is lovely to see you back posting again.
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Post by stuart torr on Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:50 pm

There are one or two in my daughters class Ivan but sometimes at least my ex lets them stay over with Siobhan, knowing that they will get a decent bath and meal, and she can wash and iron their clothes overnight.
God knows what the head is doing about it? surely she can report it to someone can't she?
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Post by stuart torr on Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:31 am

In the newspaper how many are being forced out of their homes and on the streets or sheltered accommodation, many with young children too.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:53 pm

"The poor and disabled" presumably also have a vote, which if all of them were to exercise it, would bring nasty Tory victimisation to an early end.
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Post by stuart torr on Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:25 pm

I wish they bloody would OW I really do, unfortunately I fall into both of those categories, since the Tories have made changes to my pay and when I get paid.
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Post by Mel on Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:30 pm

I think and hope "the poor disabled" will ALL vote along with the medical profession which includes thousands of GP's. Add to that those so called "middleClasses" who have been hit with the Child tax Credit reduction, the Firemen and the disgruntled Lib Dem voters, especially the students. All this and more may be countered by UKIP hopers and worst of all the Scot brigade who I think have been brainwashed by the thought of Independence. Couple this with the I'm alright Jack self serving lot who think that having a job, albeit poorly paid are happy with Cameron, because he and Gideon "have dealt with the economy and Miliband looks funny".

It will be closer than we might expect.
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Post by stuart torr on Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:45 pm

Mel I do not think it needs all of those to vote labour to make it as close as as you may think, it may be a close result without that.
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