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Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

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Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by Stox 16 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:28 am

Are you pleased that the Sun Newspaper is backing the Tory Party once more? as they are the Tory party is true home of sleaze, so believe the Sun is a very fitting newspaper for the Tory party. Will the Leveson Inquiry clean up the press or not?

Its the best news any Labour supporter could wish to hear in my view.


Stuart Hoare gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry into press ethics on behalf of his brother Sean Hoare, who had been a showbusiness reporter at the News of the World.
Mr Hoare explained how his brother had “shared a lot of secrets” with him before he died from liver disease in July.
He said he had returned to drinking to cope with the pressure of the phone hacking scandal.
But his brother had wanted to speak out to “put wrongs right”.
Sean had blown the whistle on phone hacking by speaking to the New York Times in 2010, five years after he left the newspaper.

His sole motivation was based on trying to put wrongs right,” Mr Hoare said in his witness statement.
“Sean had worked with certain individuals at both the Sun and News International where phone hacking was a daily routine.”
He said the arrest and jailing of his colleague Clive Goodman had prompted Mr Hoare to act.
“It wasn’t until a close colleague was jailed and hung out to dry that Sean realised that this individual was being used as a scapegoat to protect the management,” his brother went on.
“The reality was that phone hacking was endemic within the News International group (specifically Sean identified that this process was initiated at the Sun and later transferred to the News of the World) and he went on record both verbally and in writing to make this claim.”
His evidence to the Leveson Inquiry was given off-camera as he described how Mr Hoare had struggled to cope with the pressure he was under at the News of the World.
"There was enormous amount of pressure put on him and other reporters to produce articles that would sell. It wasn’t a nice part of his life,” he added.
The inquiry heard Mr Hoare felt the newsdesk of the paper was "out of control".
"Sean didn’t realise at the time that he was probably doing wrong," Mr Hoare said.
"I think that he got carried away like a lot of journalists and was certainly under a lot of pressure. I doubt in my own head if he initially realised he was doing wrong."
The inquiry also heard from James Hanning, the deputy editor of the Independent on Sunday.
The journalist had contacted Mr Hoare to speak to him "off the record" after his former editor Andy Coulson was hired as communications chief at Downing Street in 2007.
Mr Hanning said Mr Hoare had told him the names of eight people who would "sing in court" over the phone hacking scandal.
He described how a female celebrity had given the number of her personal assistant to a senior executive on the paper for a story, and it was treated as "a phone for him to screw".
Mr Hoare also described to Mr Hanning how he would be told: "Why don't you do some finger fishing, see what X is up to?"
In his witness statement, Mr Hanning indicated Mr Hoare had wanted to help the police investigate the News of World but was rebuffed.
"He told me several times how careful he had to be because he didn’t want to end up facing charges himself," he said.
"Several times he told me that he wanted to do a deal with the police whereby they offered him immunity, but he gave me to understand the police were not interested."

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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:59 am

There is a proverb which has been in use since at least the mid 16th century. In 1545, William Turner used a version of it in his papist satire The Rescuing of Romish Fox:
"Byrdes of on kynde and color flok and flye allwayes together."

The first citation in print of the currently used English version of the phrase appeared in 1599, in The Dictionarie in Spanish and English, which was complied by the English lexicographer John Minsheu:


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Post by Redflag on Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:56 pm

oftenwrong wrote:There is a proverb which has been in use since at least the mid 16th century. In 1545, William Turner used a version of it in his papist satire The Rescuing of Romish Fox:
"Byrdes of on kynde and color flok and flye allwayes together."

The first citation in print of the currently used English version of the phrase appeared in 1599, in The Dictionarie in Spanish and English, which was complied by the English lexicographer John Minsheu:


Birdes of a feather will flocke togither.

When you look at its sister paper N.O.T.W that proverb suits them both, my mum used to say NOW was the W***ES Gazette and I think that says it all, I have not bought the Sun for years then it done what we knew it would and went from a red top to a blue top and I hope that the Labour party take nothing to do with it if and when it wins a GE.
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Brand damage - how much can 'The Sun' take?

Post by Stox 16 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:41 am

Discussing the Sun’s current troubles, a colleague started talking about the ‘brand damage’. This made me ponder how this media turmoil might affect or ‘damage’ the Sun’s brand. I suspect the answer is, ‘Not a lot.’ I am sad to say.

The Sun’s brand values have always inhabited a shadowy area on the borders of being a ‘bad boy’ brand. I feel sure that its readership enjoy its irreverent attitude and thick-skinned stance. I also suspect that the same readership was not so shocked as the rest of the media community pretended to be at the ‘surprising’ revelations of celebrity phone hacking or even alleged payment to police officers and others for tip-offs. Many probably assumed it was part and parcel of how tabloids operated and only subsequently questioned its morality.

Part of the publications brand values lie in investigation and revelation. What would the Sun be without revelation? Interestingly, if it were not at the eye of this particular storm, it is precisely the kind of story it would revel in tackling. Unfortunately that has had to be left to other publications, one assumes without a hint of Schadenfreude.

So, to what extent is the brand likely to be damaged? In the eyes of the non-Sun-reading public, there is probably little more than reinforcement of all the poor opinions they already held. Amongst its peers, I would guess there may be a touch of ‘There but for the grace of God…

but what do you think? will the Sun on Sunday take off? or will the brand fail in the end?
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Post by Stox 16 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:50 am

Redflag wrote:
oftenwrong wrote:There is a proverb which has been in use since at least the mid 16th century. In 1545, William Turner used a version of it in his papist satire The Rescuing of Romish Fox:
"Byrdes of on kynde and color flok and flye allwayes together."

The first citation in print of the currently used English version of the phrase appeared in 1599, in The Dictionarie in Spanish and English, which was complied by the English lexicographer John Minsheu:


Birdes of a feather will flocke togither.

When you look at its sister paper N.O.T.W that proverb suits them both, my mum used to say NOW was the W***ES Gazette and I think that says it all, I have not bought the Sun for years then it done what we knew it would and went from a red top to a blue top and I hope that the Labour party take nothing to do with it if and when it wins a GE.

have to say...I have only read it a few times when its been left on a train...For me there is just nothing in it of any great interest...think that is why the Tories like it so much Red ha ha ha
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by trevorw2539 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:49 am

Stox 16:-
have to say...I have only read it a few times when its been left on a train...For me there is just nothing in it of any great interest...think that is why the Tories like it so much Red ha ha ha
I sometimes pick one up it it's left lying around. If you've got a coal fire it's just the right size to screw up and light the fire with. Very Happy
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by Stox 16 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:30 pm

trevorw2539 wrote:
Stox 16:-
have to say...I have only read it a few times when its been left on a train...For me there is just nothing in it of any great interest...think that is why the Tories like it so much Red ha ha ha
I sometimes pick one up it it's left lying around. If you've got a coal fire it's just the right size to screw up and light the fire with. Very Happy

Think your spot on there mate Very Happy
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:52 pm

Newspapers are an essential part of Capitalism. It remains to be seen how the system evolves to embrace electronic media, which to date appear to be much closer to "The People" since everyone with access to a keyboard now has a platform.
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by biglin on Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:12 pm

In the words of Rhett Butler to Scarlett O'Hara at the end of 'Gone With the Wind' - 'frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.'

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Post by Blamhappy on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:57 am

I didn't know it was, but I definitely don't see it as good news for the Labour Party.

It's the most read newspaper in the country, and people believe what's printed in it.
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:11 am

Most people buy the newspaper which most closely accords with their own prejudices.
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by Ivan on Sun May 04, 2014 8:16 pm

It might be easier to say which papers aren't with the Tory Party. This goes some way to explaining why so many people vote for a party of spivs which proves time and time again that it doesn't have their best interests at heart:-
 

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Post by oftenwrong on Sun May 04, 2014 10:46 pm

Newspaper proprietors are drawn from the wealthier segment of the population, for obvious reasons - you can't print a National Daily on the kitchen table, so the investment required is substantial.

The Tory Party is unashamedly the party of the wealthy, so who do you think will get the most support?
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by Ivan on Tue May 12, 2015 1:42 pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TId0I16uFJQ
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Tue May 12, 2015 8:13 pm

Cancel your subscription to Sky Sport Channels and you could save yourself £70 a month too.
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Post by Ivan on Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:24 pm



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKMHNv7VAAEmiBY.jpg

So what’s this all about?   scratch  scratch

Hitler became German chancellor in 1933, the year in which this ‘incident’ was filmed. Even those who had read his book, ‘Mein Kampf’, which had been published in 1925, couldn’t have anticipated the Nazi tyranny and the Holocaust which occurred in the next twelve years.

Hereditary monarchy is by definition right-wing; it is hardly a symbol of equal opportunity. Mrs Windsor’s mother was known to have right-wing views, even supporting apartheid in South Africa. And of course the traitor who reigned briefly as Edward VIII was a big fan of the Nazis - and Hitler’s preferred choice for puppet ruler of the UK had we lost the Second World War. If William Joyce and John Amery merited the death penalty for treason, so did that ‘royal’ scumbag.

Whatever one thinks of the concept of monarchy, dredging up what an 89-year-old woman did when she was 7 is pathetic. Her mother and her uncle may have known what they were doing, but the young Elizabeth was probably just copying them; I doubt if she was well versed on the subject of Nazi philosophy at that age.

So why has ‘The Sun’ come up with this rubbish now? We know that Murdoch is a fan of Cameron, and he’s probably licking his lips at the Tory attack on the BBC, so could he be trying to cause a distraction now that his pal has been found out for ignoring the will of Parliament over British military involvement in Syria?

I offer another suggestion. Cameron broke with protocol and became the first PM ever to take part in a state visit when the Windsors visited Germany recently. We know that Cameron has royal blood (he’s Mrs Windsor’s fifth cousin, twice removed), we know he doesn’t intend to contest any more elections, and we know that Charles Windsor is not well-liked. Cameron has always displayed a ‘born to rule’ attitude and perhaps he thinks he should be the next head of state, so his mate Murdoch might now be starting a campaign to undermine the present incumbent and her immediate family. Absurd? Probably – but, to use a tired old cliché, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction….. Shocked
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:51 pm

Just need a word to rhyme with "Cameron" and we can have a contemporary Old King Cole was a merry old soul ....
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Post by Ivan on Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:35 am

So a woman whose defence at her trial was her incompetence (she didn't know what anyone else was doing, not even her lover), and who can't even remember if Cameron attended her 40th birthday party, is the best candidate for her old job at the head of a major news corporation?? You can smell the stench of corruption from here.  Twisted Evil


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Post by boatlady on Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:49 am

She looks as if she has aged
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Re: Are you pleased that 'The Sun' is back with the Tory Party?

Post by oftenwrong on Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:51 am

Was this the job that nobody else wanted, though?

Just askin'
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Post by Phil Hornby on Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:35 pm

I did apply for the job myself, but apparently the powers that be couldn't have been sufficiently impressed with my front-page mock-up headed :   ' Corrupt Cameron is an evil knob"...
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Post by Ivan on Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:49 pm

In view of today's verdict from the Hillsborough inquest, I think these picture of the front page of 'The Sun' from April 1989 and its editor at the time speak for themselves:-


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Post by oftenwrong on Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:20 am

A number of stout parties appear to be collapsing around the Hillsborough scandal. The Sun reported the inquest verdict only on inside pages, and The Times originally wasn't going to make it a front-page story either, until staff rebelled.

It would be a mistake to conduct a witch-hunt against South Yorkshire Police as an entity - there are many people who don't like Coppers, for various reasons - but the eyes of the world are on the Crown Prosecution Service, as well as on the Right-wing Press.

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Post by Ivan on Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:16 pm

Hard to swallow from a Murdoch paper...... Evil or Very Mad


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