Is it time for a vote of no confidence in this government?

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I've been working with some good leftie friends on twitter to get a an e-petition on the Governments own website for a Motion of No Confidence in the ConDem government.

As you probably know already:- if these petitions get accepted on the site and gain over 100k signatures they have to be considered for a Commons Debate.

The motion we propose to have is :

"We, the undersigned state that this government has not acted in the interests of the people of the United Kingdom.

We require there to be a Motion of No Confidence debate in the House of Commons followed by a vote of MPs in support of the motion"

The idea is that it is left as open as possible so that disillusioned people of all political persuasions will be able to sign it, in order to maximise the support it gets. Also if kept as brief as possible it is more likely to be accepted, as it is less likely to get caught by one of the many grounds for rejection on the government site.

We would very much appreciate any comments and suggestions that people on here have, and especially ideas on how we can spread the word to let the people know it is available for them if they wish to sign it.

The sad thing is that this petition will/is being labelled as lefty socialist trash - and is being dismissed by supposed Labour mps as being too radical.....obviously these fake mongers who've infiltrated the labour party want to maintain the established status quo for personal material gain.

Petitions are pointless......refusal to pay bills is the way forward.

I get your point sickchip, but if we were to stop at the first hurdle what would anyone ever achieve.

The whole point of this (I Think) is giving people a voice, we have to carry on with what we are doing unperturbed.

That's the point of democracy, making your voice heard. In our case it means getting as many people as possible to join what we believe in. The more people that sign the petition, the bigger voice we have. I for one will carry on our cause for as long as it takes. If people never stood up for what they believed in, where would this world be.

We have a voice, and united, we can make a very bloody loud noise!!!

sampbang wrote:I tweeted the band Lux Lisbon earlier, about using their song Bullingdon Club as our song for the campaign.

If any of you follow me on twitter (@sampbang) you will have seen I've tweeted this song like a deranged idiot.

Guess what, they approve. We can use Bullingdon Club as our campaign song. You don't know how much this pleases me.

If you've not heard the song or seen the video (which is a must) here's the link https://youtu.be/5esbUG4bslQ

This is a massive coup, we have a band endorsing what we are doing.

That's massive - Kudos Sam

sickchip wrote:The sad thing is that this petition will/is being labelled as lefty socialist trash - and is being dismissed by supposed Labour mps as being too radical.....obviously these fake mongers who've infiltrated the labour party want to maintain the established status quo for personal material gain.

Petitions are pointless......refusal to pay bills is the way forward.

I haven't heard about that? Who is dismissing it sickchip?

Sam - you've hit the nail on the head - its about providing a means of protest for ordinary people being harmed by this government, its about making a "bloody loud noise" collectively

giving up? don't understand what that means.

What a luvly leftie lovein, gosh lets throw a street party. Bob you want to make a difference run for your local council then move through the political bollocks until you reach millionaire status and resign.

tlttf wrote:What a luvly leftie lovein, gosh lets throw a street party. Bob you want to make a difference run for your local council then move through the political bollocks until you reach millionaire status and resign.

If that is the case tittf why don't the 29 Millionaires in the present gov't resign and save us the bother of getting up a petition to get rid of them it would be less embarrassing for them, OH I forgot there just a shower of Greedy BACKSTUDS.

My my, somebody has money so let's hang them. How's multi-millionaire Miliband getting on these day's Red?

DONT FEED THE TROLL!!!!!

Dickhead.

It's amazing what effect a few poor opinion polls, a daily lambasting of Cameron ( even in Tory papers) and a general descending of the Tories into their inevitable disrepute can have on the mood of their fans...!

My saturday morning update:

I've set up a twitter account for the campaign it is @NoToUKCoalition it still needs a little more work, but it will be up and running over the weekend.

Thank you so much bob for all the hard work and time you are putting in for the benefit of us. Well most of us anyway.

Phil Hornby wrote:It's amazing what effect a few poor opinion polls, a daily lambasting of Cameron ( even in Tory papers) and a general descending of the Tories into their inevitable disrepute can have on the mood of their fans...!

Indeed Phil. Their mood is sour and for Tory supporters ( one in denial though) the lack of dicipline within themselves to refrain from foul language and utter rudeness just shows that they are not all as well bred as they think they are. Sad that Cameron has similar traits.

Thankyou Mel

Also sampbang and skwalker1964 are doing loads - we are all sharing the job equally

I've been a long time politically inactive, while others have been working on my behalf - I've got a lot of catching up to do.

All this talk of celebrities, reminds me of the twat Michael (not a lot of people know that) Caine. Do you remember just before the last General Election, He said repeatedly “ If Labour get in, I’m leaving the Country). Lets hope this one celebrity can make a worthwhile contribution to the UK after the next general Election, by doing something very un Tory like, keeping his word and phucking off.

Hello Mel. Its also worth while remembering the times violence was used against a politician. We had the missile thrown at Tory Blair in the HOC, then some Pratt lobbed an egg at Prezza, and just recently we had some cretin hit Ed Miliband with an egg.
Is it just coincidental that all of the violence comes from the Tories, or is it that they are the only ones that can afford to waste a good egg.

I blame it on the parents, a bad upbringing, substandard schooling and mixing with the wrong sort of people in later life.

tlttf wrote:Dickhead.

When you resort to name calling and insults tittf you have lost the argument, poor lonely A**E H**E.

bobEllard. The problem there Bob, is do the Tories know who their parents really are. We know Herr Cameron and Johnson are both results from illegitimate ancestry and they are the two at the top, It certainly makes me wonder as to the rest. It would be interesting to see just how many Fitz's there are in the present High born Tory party.
As for your post, Spot on.

bobby wrote:Hello Mel. Its also worth while remembering the times violence was used against a politician. We had the missile thrown at Tory Blair in the HOC, then some Pratt lobbed an egg at Prezza, and just recently we had some cretin hit Ed Miliband with an egg.
Is it just coincidental that all of the violence comes from the Tories, or is it that they are the only ones that can afford to waste a good egg.

The leader of the Conservative party wants to teach parents how to bring up children, (a new gimmick) he has no other ideas, the big society left the barrel empty. Egg throwing Tories are not the sort of people to teach people how to bring up children. For centuries people have brought up their children with out assistance from the aurthorites, an odd few have needed help, but most get assistance from grandparents who have done that and got the T shirt.
It all goes to show this government is running on empty.

tlttf wrote:My my, somebody has money so let's hang them. How's multi-millionaire Miliband getting on these day's Red?

A great deal better than you'res tittf. but then he always will do. as let face it Cameron and Co couldn't direct Lemmings off a cliff

bobby wrote:bobEllard. The problem there Bob, is do the Tories know who their parents really are. We know Herr Cameron and Johnson are both results from illegitimate ancestry and they are the two at the top, It certainly makes me wonder as to the rest. It would be interesting to see just how many Fitz's there are in the present High born Tory party.
As for your post, Spot on.

THE AUSTERE TORY LEADERS BIRTH THAT LEADS TO STUNTED GROWTH OR NO GROWTH AT ALL
Hiya Bobby

HA HA HA Like that Bobby. The whole question of Tory birth is a great mystery Bobby, some say it classed as a great phenomenon, others say its an act of curiosity . but I like to think of it as just a practical joke that went wrong. much like there running of the economy. but in the case of Cameron I understand even mother believed she had given birth to the very first white elephant. However, Zoologists are still looking into Gideon's birth with a vulture being favourite after the Stork was made redundant due to no GDP growth within the economy.

bobby wrote:bobEllard. The problem there Bob, is do the Tories know who their parents really are. We know Herr Cameron and Johnson are both results from illegitimate ancestry and they are the two at the top, It certainly makes me wonder as to the rest. It would be interesting to see just how many Fitz's there are in the present High born Tory party.
As for your post, Spot on.

THE AUSTERE TORY LEADERS BIRTH THAT LEADS TO STUNTED GROWTH OR NO GROWTH AT ALL
Hiya Bobby

HA HA HA Like that Bobby. The whole question of Tory birth is a great mystery Bobby, some say it classed as a great phenomenon, others say its an act of curiosity . but I like to think of it as just a practical joke that went wrong. much like there running of the economy. but in the case of Cameron I understand even mother believed she had given birth to the very first white elephant. However, Zoologists are still looking into Gideon's birth with a vulture being favourite after the Stork was made redundant due to no GDP growth within the economy.

Been out most of the day (Food Bank & stuff) and just catching up. Sam - great news about the band. Bob, well done with the Twitter account etc. Also great to see a bit of a jump in the signature rate - 183 when I went out and c. 250 now. It feels perverse to be encouraged that we have a few UKIP-supporting signatures etc, but it must mean we've pitched the preamble about right - and that we're not too 'radical leftie' or whatever people were saying!

Stox 16 wrote:

bobby wrote:bobEllard. The problem there Bob, is do the Tories know who their parents really are. We know Herr Cameron and Johnson are both results from illegitimate ancestry and they are the two at the top, It certainly makes me wonder as to the rest. It would be interesting to see just how many Fitz's there are in the present High born Tory party.
As for your post, Spot on.

THE AUSTERE TORY LEADERS BIRTH THAT LEADS TO STUNTED GROWTH OR NO GROWTH AT ALL
Hiya Bobby

HA HA HA Like that Bobby. The whole question of Tory birth is a great mystery Bobby, some say it classed as a great phenomenon, others say its an act of curiosity . but I like to think of it as just a practical joke that went wrong. much like there running of the economy. but in the case of Cameron I understand even mother believed she had given birth to the very first white elephant. However, Zoologists are still looking into Gideon's birth with a vulture being favourite after the Stork was made redundant due to no GDP growth within the economy.

Hi Stox &bobby

You mean to tell me this gov't is a shower of BACKSTUDS, the ones that are ruling us have a doubtful parentage, I did hear that one of there ancestors came about because of a quick fumble in the back of a sedan chair ha ha.

Redflag wrote:

Stox 16 wrote:

bobby wrote:bobEllard. The problem there Bob, is do the Tories know who their parents really are. We know Herr Cameron and Johnson are both results from illegitimate ancestry and they are the two at the top, It certainly makes me wonder as to the rest. It would be interesting to see just how many Fitz's there are in the present High born Tory party.
As for your post, Spot on.

THE AUSTERE TORY LEADERS BIRTH THAT LEADS TO STUNTED GROWTH OR NO GROWTH AT ALL
Hiya Bobby

HA HA HA Like that Bobby. The whole question of Tory birth is a great mystery Bobby, some say it classed as a great phenomenon, others say its an act of curiosity . but I like to think of it as just a practical joke that went wrong. much like there running of the economy. but in the case of Cameron I understand even mother believed she had given birth to the very first white elephant. However, Zoologists are still looking into Gideon's birth with a vulture being favourite after the Stork was made redundant due to no GDP growth within the economy.

Hi Stox &bobby

You mean to tell me this gov't is a shower of BACKSTUDS, the ones that are ruling us have a doubtful parentage, I did hear that one of there ancestors came about because of a quick fumble in the back of a sedan chair ha ha.

I too did hear this rumor about the sedan chair Red. was this due to the fact the Tory Government was the first Tory government too call there own strike ha ha ha

Latest news: petition now slowly but steadily growing, now 269 signatures. May not seem like its going to change the world, but I've seen many petitions with only a handful, and we've been up less than a week. We have made a start,

The BIG news of the day is that I contacted @AMStones who is a DJ on Liverpool Community Radio - He has given the campaign a mention on air and has linked our FB page to the LCR FB page.

So we have a Band and a Radio station supporting us. We're a Cool Campaign!

BobEllard wrote:Latest news: petition now slowly but steadily growing, now 269 signatures. May not seem like its going to change the world, but I've seen many petitions with only a handful, and we've been up less than a week. We have made a start,

The BIG news of the day is that I contacted @AMStones who is a DJ on Liverpool Community Radio - He has given the campaign a mention on air and has linked our FB page to the LCR FB page.

So we have a Band and a Radio station supporting us. We're a Cool Campaign!

That is just great news Bob. Hat's off to you for all your hard work you have put in

Fantastic news! Hopefully my tweet to the junior doctors' conference tonight will pick up some signatures - they've just voted no-confidence in Lansley, so why not the whole govt?

Curious that the petition has more Facebook recommendations than signatures - who recommends and doesn't sign? lol

What did you say to get him on board, btw?

skwalker1964 wrote:Fantastic news! Hopefully my tweet to the junior doctors' conference tonight will pick up some signatures - they've just voted no-confidence in Lansley, so why not the whole govt?

Curious that the petition has more Facebook recommendations than signatures - who recommends and doesn't sign? lol

Good for you. I back your vote all the way. Lansley is a pile of crap. lets get shot of them all

Sam - could we maybe put some anti condem jokes up on the FB page?

like

"The ConDems have created a large number of small business. Trouble is they all used to be middle sized businesses"

"Having a Conservative as Welfare Minister is like letting a Vampire run a Bloodbank"

"The rationale behind Conservative ideology explained in a vid clip: (sorry about the ad, but it is worth it) https://youtu.be/krcNIWPkNzA"

"How can the Tories call themselves Conserve-atives, when their policies result in so much destruction?"

"Some training material to aid David Cameron in getting through the week (see pic) http://pic.twitter.com/lSH8EAb7"

"Wanna see Osborne getting politically kebabed on video? http://bit.ly/vJcMkA (see top-right article)"

As the Omnishambles continues to roll on Commons authorities are considering plotting in regular slots for Emergency Ministerial Statements

Is David Cameron Frank Spencer's Evil Twin?

Has anyone seen Francis Maude recently? Or is Cameron still holding his head down a toilet and flushing it?

<<< if you think any of those are funny enough or can think of any that are funny, a few jokes might go down well on the page? what do you think


Also don't know whether this is possible to do on FB but could we run caption comps where people can add their own captions - or even just our own captions? I could look out some pictures.

I'll try and look out some pictures for caption comps when time allows

Steve:-
Great - would be great to get the junior docs on side

Yes I've noticed that - it is a bit odd - still the number of sigs is starting to grow

It was easy to get him on board - we had previously been chatting about the Lux Lisbon song, and he seemed like a decent guy with similar politics to us - so I just asked straight out and he agreed

Just wrote my first ever blog post, and included a link to the petition. Tweeted a link to the post just now...

An Update, the petition currently has 342 sigs.

Facebook now setup https://www.facebook.com/NoToTheUkCoalition for anyone who is interested

Twitter account now setup @notoukcoalition

The petition itself http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/petition-for-a-motion-of-no-confidence-in-the-uk-coalit.html

So things a coming together, and hopefully we now have a solid base for the petition. If anyone would like to get involved, please give us a shout, loads of things for people to help with!!!

Sam's Question Should we follow back our followers on @notoukcoalition?

I tied my self in nots a bit - normal twitterquette is to follow back unless its spam or offensive, so immediate thought was yes. But I think its OK for a campaign account not to unless its selected other campaigns or high level tweeps -

whats you opininion Sam?

I think we should follow like minded people, twitter accounts. It's a way to get more material, also, to build up followers in the beginning and retain them, might be best to follow?

All this talk of celebrities, reminds me of the twat Michael (not a lot of people know that) Caine. Do you remember just before the last General Election, He said repeatedly “ If Labour get in, I’m leaving the Country).

LOL! I don't know if Britain is mimicking America or if America is mimicking Britain ... but check this out:

[Ted] Nugent — who endorsed Romney on Twitter in March after apparently having a “long heart and soul conversation” with the former governor — accused Obama of running a “vile, evil, America-hating administration.”

“If you don’t know that our government is wiping its ass with the Constitution, you’re living under a rock someplace,” he said.

Nugent later says, “If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”

It seems both our countries have politically poisonous celebrities ... and we both have our fair share of celebrity "twats." Only this particular celebrity twat was paid a visit by the US Secret Service for making a death threat against the president. I wish this imbecile WOULD leave the country. Our national IQ would jump by 3 or 4 points, no doubt.

LINK

sampbang wrote:I think we should follow like minded people, twitter accounts. It's a way to get more material, also, to build up followers in the beginning and retain them, might be best to follow?

Fine, I'm on there now - we are getting followers, I will follow back as they arrive

Attached is a possible caption comp pic

Monday afternoon update: 355 signatures and 16 Likes for the Facebook page, and 36 followers for @NoToUKCoalition on Twitter

Had a great Coalition Bashing Caption Competition on Twitter this afternoon, I'll be doing them from about 2pm every afternoon and repeating them around 10pm every evening, also played some music from Lux Lisbon, Manic Street Preachers and Charlie Drake.

The idea is that as well as making a serious point - if the Twitter feed and Facebook page are fun and entertaining, more people will follow and it might create a positive buzz around the campaign.

Also humour/ satire are great ways of making serious political arguments, so to coin a phrase "Its all good then!

Well, that hurt. I just joined the Labour Party and I didn't enjoy parting with me cash

I feel like a proper grownup now, though!