Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)
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Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)
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Get into the queue boatlady, there are a few million others awaiting to do more than kick him in the face, some would want to hang up up by his B****CKS, myself I would rather like to force him to do a REAL hard days work like cleaning public toilets with a toothbrush
boatlady wrote:The face I want to kick
Get into the queue boatlady, there are a few million others awaiting to do more than kick him in the face, some would want to hang up up by his B****CKS, myself I would rather like to force him to do a REAL hard days work like cleaning public toilets with a toothbrush
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Pity about the 'Your (sic ) all in this together' reference on the item.
It allows people like the Tories to dismiss the whole thing as the work of semi-literate malcontents.
It allows people like the Tories to dismiss the whole thing as the work of semi-literate malcontents.
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" How I hate wearing my old school uniform..."
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"When I press this button on my tie, Cameron, you will choke."
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Re: Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)
If only Ed had that arcane power
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Ahahahahahahah if only Ivan.
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Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ? eh boatlady.
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Now boatlady? we are no fools my love.
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Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe?
Well, yes, he is, but the bugger of it is -- he's a moron from the ruling class - and it seems we ordinary types can't do a lot about him until May 2015 - let's wipe him out! - before it's too late
Well, yes, he is, but the bugger of it is -- he's a moron from the ruling class - and it seems we ordinary types can't do a lot about him until May 2015 - let's wipe him out! - before it's too late
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Actually I believe the godlovers sent Cameron, after going down to hell and fetching the devil back.
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let's send him back
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I will chip in with the fare, any time boatlady.
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David Cameron’s tax credo is incoherent, immoral and economically illiterate
Extracts from an article by Will Hutton:-
Believe the PM and it is morality, rather than economics, which requires him to cut taxes. In an article in ‘The Times’ that was factually incorrect, philosophically incoherent and economically bonkers, Cameron set out the Tory credo. He was wrong on all counts. Trying to argue why every reader should vote Conservative, he instead revealed the blind alley into which Conservatism has stumbled.
All Britain’s ills were rooted in a state that had grown too large. So rooted was the Tory belief in the immorality of taxation that in the next parliament he would find a further £25bn of saving and £7.2bn of tax cuts. Except that the last claim survived just a few hours before being dismissed by the IFS. There is “no sense”, declared its directors, in the claim that most of the deficit-cutting had been done. The PM, aping Tesco, had booked savings that were earmarked for the first year of the next parliament in the current parliament and then ignored savings that were planned for 2018/19 to double up on the appearance that most of the deficit-cutting pain was over. The IFS was too polite to call this what it was: a lie.
Cameron would doubtless argue it was a small lie to serve the greater good of a Tory government and its commitment to low taxation. Thus will Britain flourish. But it won’t: it is a fiction that Britain does not flourish because of high taxation and a bloated welfare state, neither is high or generous by international comparison. We do not flourish because too many of our elite, faithful to Cameron’s false morality, do not want to acknowledge the interdependencies on which economic and social success is founded, and thus their own obligations to pay tax.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/02/david-cameron-is-immoral-not-our-tax-system
Extracts from an article by Will Hutton:-
Believe the PM and it is morality, rather than economics, which requires him to cut taxes. In an article in ‘The Times’ that was factually incorrect, philosophically incoherent and economically bonkers, Cameron set out the Tory credo. He was wrong on all counts. Trying to argue why every reader should vote Conservative, he instead revealed the blind alley into which Conservatism has stumbled.
All Britain’s ills were rooted in a state that had grown too large. So rooted was the Tory belief in the immorality of taxation that in the next parliament he would find a further £25bn of saving and £7.2bn of tax cuts. Except that the last claim survived just a few hours before being dismissed by the IFS. There is “no sense”, declared its directors, in the claim that most of the deficit-cutting had been done. The PM, aping Tesco, had booked savings that were earmarked for the first year of the next parliament in the current parliament and then ignored savings that were planned for 2018/19 to double up on the appearance that most of the deficit-cutting pain was over. The IFS was too polite to call this what it was: a lie.
Cameron would doubtless argue it was a small lie to serve the greater good of a Tory government and its commitment to low taxation. Thus will Britain flourish. But it won’t: it is a fiction that Britain does not flourish because of high taxation and a bloated welfare state, neither is high or generous by international comparison. We do not flourish because too many of our elite, faithful to Cameron’s false morality, do not want to acknowledge the interdependencies on which economic and social success is founded, and thus their own obligations to pay tax.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/02/david-cameron-is-immoral-not-our-tax-system
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I believe I said on another thread Ivan, that our Davy boy will and is trying to buy the Tories votes before the G.E.
It is just whether or not the every day voter, can see what he is doing before then is it not?
It is just whether or not the every day voter, can see what he is doing before then is it not?
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Thought that Will Hutton was about on the money. Good article
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Maybe this helps to explain why Cameron is so out of touch…..
The Money-Empathy Gap
From an article by Lisa Miller:-
Research suggests that more money makes people act less human. Or at least less humane. For a long time, primatologists have known that chimpanzees will act out social dominance with a special ferociousness, slapping hands, stamping feet, or charging back and forth and dragging huge branches. And sociologists and anthropologists have explored the effects of hierarchy in tribes and groups. But psychology has only recently begun seriously investigating how having money, that major marker of status in the modern world, affects psychosocial behaviour in the species Homo sapiens.
A paper published in 2012 titled ‘Higher Social Class Predicts Increased Unethical Behaviour’ showed through quizzes, online games, questionnaires, in-lab manipulations, and field studies that living high on the socioeconomic ladder can, colloquially speaking, dehumanise people. It can make them less ethical, more selfish, more insular, and less compassionate than other people. It can make them more likely to take candy from a bowl of sweets designated for children. “While having money doesn’t necessarily make anybody anything”, it concludes, “the rich are way more likely to prioritise their own self-interests above the interests of other people. It makes them more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes.”
http://nymag.com/news/features/money-brain-2012-7/?imw=Y
The Money-Empathy Gap
From an article by Lisa Miller:-
Research suggests that more money makes people act less human. Or at least less humane. For a long time, primatologists have known that chimpanzees will act out social dominance with a special ferociousness, slapping hands, stamping feet, or charging back and forth and dragging huge branches. And sociologists and anthropologists have explored the effects of hierarchy in tribes and groups. But psychology has only recently begun seriously investigating how having money, that major marker of status in the modern world, affects psychosocial behaviour in the species Homo sapiens.
A paper published in 2012 titled ‘Higher Social Class Predicts Increased Unethical Behaviour’ showed through quizzes, online games, questionnaires, in-lab manipulations, and field studies that living high on the socioeconomic ladder can, colloquially speaking, dehumanise people. It can make them less ethical, more selfish, more insular, and less compassionate than other people. It can make them more likely to take candy from a bowl of sweets designated for children. “While having money doesn’t necessarily make anybody anything”, it concludes, “the rich are way more likely to prioritise their own self-interests above the interests of other people. It makes them more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes.”
http://nymag.com/news/features/money-brain-2012-7/?imw=Y
Re: Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 2)
Your last bit made me laugh out loud there Ivan, nice one.
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Still laughing Ivan, you can pick some good ones can you not.
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Cameron’s hypocrisy never ceases to amaze. He wants Labour voters in Rochester and Strood to switch to the Tories to keep out UKIP with its “divisiveness” (does he think we've just had four and a half years of 'harmony' then??). No doubt if enough Labour voters oblige him and as a result the Labour candidate does badly, Cameron will crow about it and claim it to be a judgement on Ed Miliband’s leadership. And can you imagine Cameron, if the Tories were being squeezed in third place, advising his supporters to vote Labour to keep UKIP out? No, neither can I.
David Cameron 'Begging' For Labour Votes To Avoid UKIP Defeat
From an article by Ned Simons:-
Cameron has taken the unusual step of asking Labour and Lib Dem supporters to vote tactically for the Conservatives in the Rochester by-election to prevent UKIP from winning. The latest polls indicate Mark Reckless is set to become UKIP's second ever elected MP on 20 November. The result would be a second damaging blow for Cameron and likely lead to more discord on his backbenches.
Cameron made a direct appeal to supporters of other parties to lend their vote to Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst in a bid to stop UKIP's "great caravan" rolling on. One Labour MP who has campaigned in the seat said there was evidence that "Labour voters are going to vote Tory to stop UKIP". By-elections, the MP said, become an "inevitable choice between the two front runners".
Cameron told ‘The Kent Messenger’ newspaper: "I would say to people who have previously voted Labour, Liberal, Green or anything, that if you want a strong local candidate and don't want some UKIP boost and all the uncertainty and instability that leads to, then Kelly is the choice……. I think there will be lots of Labour supporters in Rochester and Strood who don't want to see UKIP with their divisiveness and their message succeed here."
UKIP appears to be heading for a comfortable victory in the by-election, according to a poll conducted by Lord Ashcroft. Reckless - whose defection triggered the contest - is on 44% while Tolhurst is on 32%. Labour candidate Naushabah Khan is on 17%, with the Liberal Democrats attracting 2%.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/12/ukip-rochester-by-election-david-cameron-tactical-votes_n_6143936.html
David Cameron 'Begging' For Labour Votes To Avoid UKIP Defeat
From an article by Ned Simons:-
Cameron has taken the unusual step of asking Labour and Lib Dem supporters to vote tactically for the Conservatives in the Rochester by-election to prevent UKIP from winning. The latest polls indicate Mark Reckless is set to become UKIP's second ever elected MP on 20 November. The result would be a second damaging blow for Cameron and likely lead to more discord on his backbenches.
Cameron made a direct appeal to supporters of other parties to lend their vote to Tory candidate Kelly Tolhurst in a bid to stop UKIP's "great caravan" rolling on. One Labour MP who has campaigned in the seat said there was evidence that "Labour voters are going to vote Tory to stop UKIP". By-elections, the MP said, become an "inevitable choice between the two front runners".
Cameron told ‘The Kent Messenger’ newspaper: "I would say to people who have previously voted Labour, Liberal, Green or anything, that if you want a strong local candidate and don't want some UKIP boost and all the uncertainty and instability that leads to, then Kelly is the choice……. I think there will be lots of Labour supporters in Rochester and Strood who don't want to see UKIP with their divisiveness and their message succeed here."
UKIP appears to be heading for a comfortable victory in the by-election, according to a poll conducted by Lord Ashcroft. Reckless - whose defection triggered the contest - is on 44% while Tolhurst is on 32%. Labour candidate Naushabah Khan is on 17%, with the Liberal Democrats attracting 2%.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/12/ukip-rochester-by-election-david-cameron-tactical-votes_n_6143936.html
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boatlady wrote: let's send him back
Let us kick him all the way back to hell its what he deserves plus some stuart.
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Is it too good for him though Redflag,
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stuart torr wrote:Is it too good for him though Redflag,
spot on stuart he would contaminate our boots we could always use a "Pitch Fork" that would do the job
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Yep and stick it up his ASS
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stuart torr wrote:Yep and stick it up his ASS
I wbe sticking it where it would cause the most pain and will not say where on the forum so just let your imagination run roit stuart
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Well it would not be there as he has not got one or any.
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stuart torr wrote:Well it would not be there as he has not got one or any.
Never thought of that stuart we all no he has no B**LS and is pinky is too big to use as a PR**K but we all know he is a right Dick Head.
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Oh dear Redflag i'm disappointed in you for saying his pinky is too big? personally I believe it is so small he is having a sex change and changing his name to margeret thatcher.
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David Cameron is busily strutting the World Stage far away from us this weekend in Australia for the G20 meeting. Whilst there he announced another move in his "War on Terror" by which volunteer jihadists will be prevented from returning to Britain.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/british-jihadis-who-travel-to-syria-could-be-barred-from-uk-return-for-two-years/ar-BBdzYxZ?ocid=U219DHP
All well and good, you might think.
A British Passport provides evidence of your nationality and right to live in Great Britain. It also requires British consulates abroad to render assistance where required. There is an attached benefit of entitlement for your children to be regarded as British too.
The Law of unintended consequences might allow a future British Government to remove our citizenship for reasons of political convenience. Think on't!
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/british-jihadis-who-travel-to-syria-could-be-barred-from-uk-return-for-two-years/ar-BBdzYxZ?ocid=U219DHP
All well and good, you might think.
A British Passport provides evidence of your nationality and right to live in Great Britain. It also requires British consulates abroad to render assistance where required. There is an attached benefit of entitlement for your children to be regarded as British too.
The Law of unintended consequences might allow a future British Government to remove our citizenship for reasons of political convenience. Think on't!
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Depending on what that future government is of course OW.
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Ivan wrote:Cameron’s hypocrisy never ceases to amaze. He wants Labour voters in Rochester and Strood to switch to the Tories to keep out UKIP with its “divisiveness” (does he think we've just had four and a half years of 'harmony' then??). No doubt if enough Labour voters oblige him and as a result the Labour candidate does badly, Cameron will crow about it and claim it to be a judgement on Ed Miliband’s leadership. And can you imagine Cameron, if the Tories were being squeezed in third place, advising his supporters to vote Labour to keep UKIP out? No, neither can I.
David Cameron 'Begging' For Labour Votes To Avoid UKIP Defeat
From an article by Ned Simons:-
Cameron has taken the unusual step of asking Labour and Lib Dem supporters to vote tactically for the Conservatives in the Rochester by-election to prevent UKIP from winning. The latest polls indicate Mark Reckless is set to become UKIP's second ever elected MP on 20 November. The result would be a second damaging blow for Cameron and likely lead to more discord on his backbenches.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/12/ukip-rochester-by-election-david-cameron-tactical-votes_n_6143936.html
Does Cameron really expect Labour voters to vote Tory "NO CHANCE" Ivan maybe the yellow Tories will vote Tory but there is not a lot of them left to make any significant difference to the outcome of the by-election next Thursday.
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Whatever you say Redflag, I will wait and see.
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Stuart if we do not have hope we have NOTHING, I think Ed will pull something out of the bag at the last minute, hence not in time for the right wing media & the Tories unable to do anything about it.
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I am hoping that he does REDFLAG because all the newspapers that I have read today are slightly to full right wing.
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Of course it is OW, it will also end the same way = Knive inbetween the Shoulder Blades.
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I think the whole Tory party is the way they made profit from selling off the NHS.
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I just hope they have left evidence of that stuart that way we can tell the private health sector to EFF OFF and get some of the Tory MPs into court charged with defrauding the tax payer of there hard earned tax money.
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They must have left some Redflag, as there was a double spread of their names in the paper yesterday, and the money they made.
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Cameron visits Auschwitz. (Well, anything's better than PMQs)
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pm-visiting-auschwitz-death-camp-110747378.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pm-visiting-auschwitz-death-camp-110747378.html
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Shame he was not an inmate instead of just visiting OW, then he may have changed the tory ideals just a bit do you think?
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An alternative party political broadcast by the Tory Party
Hi, im David Cameron, I am an Aristocrat, I am better than you, Britain's middle classes think they are me, but they arent, my party just let them think they are so they vote for us, we hate ordinary people, its just the way we are, its in our genes. Hitler admired our forefathers because of the way my forefathers kept the working class in their place, Britain is class driven, we in the Tory party are ideologically driven, and when the working classes work that out, we in the Tory party will never get into Government again, so we are now throwing everything we can at the people of this country because we have nothing to lose at the next g/e next year, but everything to gain. Thank you suckers.
David Cameron, leader of this right wing Tory Government. Care of Ivanhoe.
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