Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

by **astradt1** Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies

The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT

by **Ivan** Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:35 pm

Rumour has it that 'The Sunday Times' might have some more revelations about the Tories for us this weekend. Let's hope so. Hell hath no fury like a Murdoch who doesn't get the whole of BSkyB.

by Redflag Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:21 pm

Ivan wrote:Rumour has it that 'The Sunday Times' might have some more revelations about the Tories for us this weekend. Let's hope so. Hell hath no fury like a Murdoch who doesn't get the whole of BSkyB.

Or Ivan it could be that Murdoch intends to put some to the blame the Tory party way, he did let Coulson go or try and protect Murdochs little girl Mrs Brookes and I do not think his friend of 30 years Mr Brookes will be too happy leaving him in it up to there necks.

by AwfulTruth Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:10 pm

Ivan wrote:Rumour has it that 'The Sunday Times' might have some more revelations about the Tories for us this weekend. Let's hope so. Hell hath no fury like a Murdoch who doesn't get the whole of BSkyB.

You know how to get me all excited, Ivan! I am looking forward to more excrement hitting the Tory fan; bearing in my the poor sods only have one fan left (i.e. George's nanny) - the others have all joined the Labour party.

I wonder what could be next? Perhaps a tax on prawn cocktails or black puddings? A surcharge on working class sex? People being advised to buy condoms in case there is a strike in Italy? A ban on frankfurters bigger than six inches? Cameron caught shaxxxx that Rebecca wotsit or perhaps even an old nag? The mind boggles - boggles! scratch

Who knows!

by AwfulTruth Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:14 pm

Everyone remember that British politics is now firmly within the Twilight Zone; so be afraid, be very afraid... clown

Seriously, after watching Question Time I do feel queasy; after getting so irate I nearly threw a large ornament at the TV!

by Mel Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:24 pm

Land wrote "It's all about getting your facts right "

Well congratulations, first time for you, well done and keep trying to improve.
You know you continue to have my sincere respect. drunken

by Mel Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:31 pm

"Seriously, after watching Question Time I do feel queasy; after getting so irate I nearly threw a large ornament at the TV!"

I agree AT, it can be very frustrating, especially when that Starky arrogant Tory weed rants. The Tory woman with the blond hair (didn't catch her name) arrogant and rude, typical of her political kind. Sometimes the show is just not worth watching.

by Blamhappy Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:17 pm

I much prefer This Week. It's more balanced and insightful.

I don't watch QT. It gets me wound up because stupid comments are met with applause and Dimbleby pokes fun at people even when they say something honest and sensible.

I did watch the Nick Griffin one and quite enjoyed it!

by **Ivan** Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:01 am

tlttf wrote:-
Yes it did melly, however the Cornish pasty Booth closed last week. It's all about getting your facts right before opening your gob.

Perhaps you should take your own advice. Cameron said about his pasty consumption: "I think the last one I bought was from the West Cornwall Pasty Company. I seem to remember I was in Leeds station at the time."

In an attempt to cover up Cameron's latest piece of deceit, someone in Downing Street later suggested that he might have been in Liverpool. I expect one northern city is just the same as any other to a Bullingdon Club toff.

by Scarecrow Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:48 am

Regarding the last few weeks in the Tory bubble,

Craig Oliver, the head of communications who succeeded Andy Coulson when he resigned, should know better. But he seems to have a very limited grasp of the workings of politics and of much of the media. His primary interest is in ensuring the Prime Minister is filmed from the right angle. His background is as a television news executive, but colleagues say he doesn't seem to understand newspapers and the way in which their reporting of a crisis often drives TV coverage. There are those who defend Mr Oliver, saying that errant politicians are simply passing the blame for their misjudgments.
Francis Maude.....................well the guy is not in the real world , forget the jerry cans , he pre supposes that everyone has a garage to put them in ha ha .

The Labour drubbing by George Galloway will not help the toxic tories one jot, they are immersed in a thick blue soup of nefarious deeds that hacks away daily at the UK publics freedom of choice and voice. Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1) - Page 5 SSSSSSS

Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1) - Page 5 SSSSSSS

(C) VEGANSFIELDS 2009

by Stox 16 Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:25 am

bobby wrote:blueturando. Its good to see you do not deny the depths your Tory Party/Government have plumeted, I join the two together as Herr Cameron and his mate Cruddas has made it impossible to tell the difference between one and the other. Herr Cameron allegedly has been using Parliamentary facilities for the benefit of his political party, and has clearly stated in defence of this latest bit of sleaze “I will publish quarterly any meals I have with doners on the future. Then a little later the deputy Chairman of the party reiterated the same. Great that innit, they will disclose any meals they have and we should now sit back saying “well that’s OK then” but what if the meetings in future or the past for that matter didn’t include a meal, but purely a meeting to discuss what is in it for the person handing over the quarter mil, they have even left the door open for that person to have a drink, and they wont have to disclose anything as no meal was had. They in their arrogance, really think that we the electorate are stupid.
I have seen through this bit of subterfuge so obviously have many, many others, except blueturando and his party of thieves and liars it seems. Never mind even he cant be fooled 100% of the time, he has been fooled 90% of the time so he had better see them for exactly what they are soon, as he was beginning to look ridiculous some years ago, and is still coming out with the same old, same old. Poor bluey though, he may get better when he grows up.

Hi bobby my good friend, hope all is well with you? anyway, does anyone really believe that you would pay £250,000 or £100,000 for a KFC with Cameron and his wife and get nothing for it? I could just see me and you doing that Bobby. Not...yet this was the Tory press officers line...quite amazing....but is it.

but lets be totally truthful...does anyone believe this is the whole list? as i just do not believe it booby and what's more I bet you do not either.

by Stox 16 Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:44 am

Scarecrow wrote:Regarding the last few weeks in the Tory bubble,

Craig Oliver, the head of communications who succeeded Andy Coulson when he resigned, should know better. But he seems to have a very limited grasp of the workings of politics and of much of the media. His primary interest is in ensuring the Prime Minister is filmed from the right angle. His background is as a television news executive, but colleagues say he doesn't seem to understand newspapers and the way in which their reporting of a crisis often drives TV coverage. There are those who defend Mr Oliver, saying that errant politicians are simply passing the blame for their misjudgments.
Francis Maude.....................well the guy is not in the real world , forget the jerry cans , he pre supposes that everyone has a garage to put them in ha ha .

The Labour drubbing by George Galloway will not help the toxic tories one jot, they are immersed in a thick blue soup of nefarious deeds that hacks away daily at the UK publics freedom of choice and voice. (C) VEGANSFIELDS 2009

I know Galloway from his Labour party days...his nick name was gorgeous George...the reason was only George thought of himself as gorgeous...He believes that he should of been leading the Labour party. but know else did...The fact is he lives for PR and does not really care how he gets it either. but I know why he won this bye-election. as I know how he did it too. all very nasty in my view.

Galloway’s was a big defeat for not only the Labour party but for all the forces who believe in true democracy within the wider UK. As Galloway brings only one true thing to politics and that is the promotion of one side of a community. Something I myself find quite disgusting no matter what side of polities you happen to sit on. To play on the fears of one group of people is in my mind quite vulgar utterly obscene.

This was no defeat for any mainstream political party at all. Nor should any weak willed person think of it in such a vulgar way in my own view. No, this was just a very small group of people feeding on the fears of the majority of this community.

Respect leader Salma Yaqoob said the result showed voters' dissatisfaction with the Government's austerity cuts.
"So often, politics can be seen as 'same old, same old'. This message really is an anti-austerity one," she told the Today programme."
BBC Radio 4

Well its nothing of the sort, it has nothing to do with economic government policy or the policies of the Labour party or its leadership. Its just plan old fashioned fear placed in the minds of one community by one so-called political party that is no more than one mans dream.

Let me make on bones about this result. The labour party and all the parties got this election utterly wrong. They all failed to understand the make up of this so-called party. which according to the 2001 census is 47% non-white and 38% Muslim. Respect traditionally polls well in areas with a high Asian population. What is clear by this result is that there are groups within all communities that are not trading politics at all.. but on the fears of some people. While they are more then happy to do this… I for one wish to have nothing at all to do with that. Galloway is an admirer of Saddam Hussein, Mao, and Stalin. He insists that it is “necessary” for the “two great forces” of Islamists and progressives to unite against “Zionist occupation” and “savage capitalist globalization.” what utter bull. In my view this statement is.

Yet he stood by his embrace of Qaradawi, as well as his employ at Press TV, a notorious Anglophone network funded by the Iranian government and anchored by, among others, George Galloway. I think this tells you all you need to know about Galloway.

I also know many Tories on the right who share my utter disgusted for this brand of so-called politics too. In this I stand with them and anyone else who is against this so of politics.

by Stox 16 Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:47 am

Blamhappy wrote:I much prefer This Week. It's more balanced and insightful.

I don't watch QT. It gets me wound up because stupid comments are met with applause and Dimbleby pokes fun at people even when they say something honest and sensible.

I did watch the Nick Griffin one and quite enjoyed it!

cannot disagree with any of that Blemhappy...

by AwfulTruth Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:51 am

Mel

Who is 'Land' and where is their post? confused

by Scarecrow Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:49 am

Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1) - Page 5 PASTY%20DAVE

picture ( C ) Google , wit SCARECROW.

by AwfulTruth Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:54 am

Am I the only one who cannot stand seeing or hearing David Cameron?

His hubris makes me want to vomit...

by tlttf Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:46 am

AwfulTruth wrote:Mel

Who is 'Land' and where is their post?

I guess that would be me, tlttf short for "the land that time forgot". Apparently I'm the only one on this board that believes nothing that Labour state, then again I don't believe any main stream politician. Vote for an independent born in your area that knows what the area requires to succeed. Also if you discount anything melly say's as a lie, you won't go far wrong.

by Blamhappy Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:52 am

AwfulTruth wrote:Am I the only one who cannot stand seeing or hearing David Cameron?

His hubris makes me want to vomit...

I've found from the beginning that he has a patronising tone and it irks me. He tries too hard to sound sincere. He tries to emulate Blair, but Blair managed to seem like he respected the audience's intelligence.

by tlttf Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:02 pm

I agree with the patronising bit, you ruined it by saying Blair acted as though he respected the audience Blam. I was never taken in by his snake charmer smile and remember when he gleefully lied whilst he set about taking the country on his own personal crusade to Iraq.

by AwfulTruth Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:51 pm

Mel wrote:"Seriously, after watching Question Time I do feel queasy; after getting so irate I nearly threw a large ornament at the TV!"

I agree AT, it can be very frustrating, especially when that Starky arrogant Tory weed rants. The Tory woman with the blond hair (didn't catch her name) arrogant and rude, typical of her political kind. Sometimes the show is just not worth watching.

Starky is such an animal! His manners are SO bad. He should feel shame but no one is at home - the guy is an oxidised moron! He is also an oxymoron: both wise and stupid!

by AwfulTruth Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:53 pm

tlttf wrote:
AwfulTruth wrote:Mel

Who is 'Land' and where is their post?

I guess that would be me, tlttf short for "the land that time forgot". Apparently I'm the only one on this board that believes nothing that Labour state, then again I don't believe any main stream politician. Vote for an independent born in your area that knows what the area requires to succeed. Also if you discount anything melly say's as a lie, you won't go far wrong.

Thanks for that. And hello! Very Happy

by AwfulTruth Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:56 pm

Blamhappy wrote:
AwfulTruth wrote:Am I the only one who cannot stand seeing or hearing David Cameron?

His hubris makes me want to vomit...

I've found from the beginning that he has a patronising tone and it irks me. He tries too hard to sound sincere. He tries to emulate Blair, but Blair managed to seem like he respected the audience's intelligence.

You are bang on right - he is all that.

What is crucial is that even the Tories cannot see him as being an 'honest Jo' any more, even if his name is David. Even soon after he took office he was chastened by his own party for aggressive bullying of the new Tory MPs who were summarily verbally warned that if they did not toe the line, they would be finished! Nice one...

He is such a fake!

by Mel Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:21 pm

AT. "Who is 'Land' and where is their post? "..
TLTTF The land that time forgot.. hence "Land"

Pge 2 here 24th post down from top.

He has responded here to you in any case. OK?

by Mel Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:34 pm

TLLTF "I don't believe any main stream politician. Vote for an independent born in your area that knows what the area requires to succeed. "

You are incabable of believing the truth except when ot is aimed at Camer-con's or Gideon's and Boris's dirty work, then you defend them to the nth degree. Everyone else is a "liar".
Having had you previously reluctantly and under pressure from me declairing that you voted Tory at the last election, now to are trying pathetically to advise others to vote Independant.
You obviously don't know your political ar*se from your alcohol affected head.

by oftenwrong Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:22 pm

tlttf wrote:I agree with the patronising bit, you ruined it by saying Blair acted as though he respected the audience Blam. I was never taken in by his snake charmer smile and remember when he gleefully lied whilst he set about taking the country on his own personal crusade to Iraq.

Gimme five, tlttf! Blair was only the second-most-dangerous Prime Minister in modern history. He didn't even believe what he was saying while he said it.

by Blamhappy Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:23 am

AwfulTruth wrote:
You are bang on right - he is all that.

What is crucial is that even the Tories cannot see him as being an 'honest Jo' any more, even if his name is David. Even soon after he took office he was chastened by his own party for aggressive bullying of the new Tory MPs who were summarily verbally warned that if they did not toe the line, they would be finished! Nice one...

He is such a fake!

I think he's trying to be all things to all people. He wants to seem "nice" and "sincere" with us because he needs to act out the mantra "We are all in it together", but he wants to please his party too, which involves seeming cut-throat and willing to deliver a right-wing agenda.

He can't do both, so he ends up displeasing both.

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:53 am

I was once a Tory, once Labour, once Lib-Dem; I am a floater!

But, I am being very critical of all politicians. Ed Milliband is SO normal he seems positively OK compared to some other power-grabbing lunatics.

I used to like Cameron! What a Face

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:05 am

AwfulTruth wrote:I was once a Tory, once Labour, once Lib-Dem; I am a floater!

But, I am being very critical of all politicians. Ed Milliband is SO normal he seems positively OK compared to some other power-grabbing lunatics.

I used to like Cameron!

Don't worry. This confessional is entirely confidential. Smile

Isn't it posters!!!!

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:12 am

Oh thanks; does that mean I can buy a pasty and support the Cornish economy?

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:13 am

Oh, I appeared twice so I've expunged the duplication.

So what's the whether like where geek

you are then?

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:38 am

AwfulTruth Today at 11:12 am

Oh thanks; does that mean I can buy a pasty and support the Cornish economy?

Of course. Eating pasties won't turn you into a Tory. At least, I don't think so.
The weather is turning like the economy - down - uncertain - and decidedly cold. Other than that it's fine. Smile

Though I don't think getting rid of the Tories will affect the weather, although it will cheer us all up.

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:14 pm

David Cameron: the Ex-Lax of politics. What goes in must come out... :albino:

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:41 pm

AwfulTruth quote

David Cameron: the Ex-Lax of politics. What goes in must come out... :albino:
The law of home economics. Wages/pensions go in, bills come out. Sad

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:30 pm

You do realise that Beluga caviar costs the earth now? Champagne is going up?

What DO you expect Mr Cameron to dine on? Imagine him nibbling at dry toast, even if it is smothered in pâté de foie gras?

Poor David! Wink

by Redflag Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:15 pm

Mel wrote:"what's new...? "

Nothing Phil except i'm getting more amd more angry and agressive towards these corrupt vultures. Hopefully millions of folk are feeling the same. I did say hopefully.

Mel I am one of those people I hope I count but like you Im wondering when the rest of the UK are going to WAKE UP so I am feeling so enrage as you are, while typing this Im watching Nick Clegg launch his L/Ds local Elections and he is hoping they will do better than last year what is he ON something ILLEGAL. Suspect

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:23 pm

The cheek of Nick Clegg elephant

on Radio 4 a few hours ago was monumental!

He actually had the disingenuous cheek to try to justify the latest Big Brother is watching you attempt to bxgger our right to privacy! cyclops

Are these people for real? I felt like chucking my DAB down the loo... Twisted Evil

I tell you guys, this government is up the Twilight Zone :affraid: without a paddle! clown

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:06 pm

AwfulTruth. quote

I felt like chucking my DAB down the loo... Twisted Evil

Can see the headlines now 'Clegg speaks from the bottom of his -er - heart? Embarassed

by Redflag Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:11 pm

AwfulTruth wrote:Am I the only one who cannot stand seeing or hearing David Cameron?

His hubris makes me want to vomit...

His PIE RACE is such that I would not get sick of continually punching it with a knuckle duster on.

by AwfulTruth Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:42 pm

We are naughty! Wink

Trevor and Red: We knew it was really all a load of excremental political shenanigans so now we really do know that Clegg speaks a load of sxxx!

I don't think I shall get any awards for eloquence right now! geek

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:54 pm

AwfulTruth.

Your spelling gets worse. Sxxx should be spelt -this - er - anagrammatically wise, anyway. Embarassed

by astra Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:16 pm

We allways knew Clegg was,well, 'a wee bit potty'

But now he is Completely Round the Bend!

by trevorw2539 Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:47 pm

Was going to say 'but not flushed with success' but thinking about it , maybe a flushing away could be counted as a success.

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