Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

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Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies

The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT

FOREIGN Secretary William Hague should be called to account for his foolhardy decision to threaten a Foreign Power with invasion of its Embassy in London.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/gerald-warner-hague-rattles-sabres-as-the-us-pulls-his-strings-1-2476421?commentspage=1

Mel wrote:One just cant trust greedy Tory tyrants, especially when they have seen to it that a 5year term policy was pushed through, knowing that that might well be their lot following the implementation of Total nasty Tory idelogy, backed to the hilt by Clegg a saffron blue creep, of a second class so called leader of his party.

It will serve as a good lesson for the people that voted Tory at the GE in 2010 Mel or will it? as for the Yellow Tory Clegg his political life is over and the party will be lucky if they get ONE MP elected at the next GE but hell slap it into them they have asked for it by letting the Tories walk all over them.

oftenwrong wrote:FOREIGN Secretary William Hague should be called to account for his foolhardy decision to threaten a Foreign Power with invasion of its Embassy in London.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/gerald-warner-hague-rattles-sabres-as-the-us-pulls-his-strings-1-2476421?commentspage=1

OW that just goes to show how stupid Hague is as foreign secretary. as you would just have to be off you head to raid a foreign embassy

It's not stupidity or foolhardiness, it's just plain arrogance. There lies the rub...

It's true. Some of our Tory backwoodsmen think that they still rule over a British Empire which can send a gun-boat if the fuzzy-wuzzies make a fuss.

oftenwrong wrote:It's true. Some of our Tory backwoodsmen think that they still rule over a British Empire which can send a gun-boat if the fuzzy-wuzzies make a fuss.

That would be one task that would be impossible OW, we do not have any boats to send plus no navy personnel the most of them have been fired so heaven help us if one of the nut case foreign powers decide to invade or something similar.

Oh. Right!

It'll have to be a very firm letter then.

oftenwrong wrote:Oh. Right!

It'll have to be a very firm letter then.

The Syrian freedom fighters are asking Hague for a "No Fly Zone" and all he is sending is medical equipment (which they need) and communications equipment which they do not want or need, the thing they want is what I have referred too above but Hague can not provide that because the STUPID FCUKERS of a gov't have sold the planes that could do that job and we do not have enough men or equipment to defend our own shores.

bobby wrote:HMS Victory is still a Commissioned Capital ship and has a crew of Naval officers and ratings, perhaps here lies the answer. As Hague is obviously living in the past it would be interesting to see just how far back the prick wants to go.

Hi bobby how far back can he go to the time he was leader of the Tories, to be honest i do not think he has enough brain cells to take him that far back.

Tory councillor David Stephenson has made a joke about two dead policewomen - how much sicker can members of that scum party get?

He made the comment in front of the wife of a serving police sergeant, who was upset by what he said and told her husband. The officer, Sergeant Jason Farrar, said he called Stephenson to confront him about the joke and claims he was told to "go away, you silly man".

I wonder if Stephenson is related to Andrew Mitchell?

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Tory-David-Stephenson-stripped-post-joke-dead/story-16980483-detail/story.html

I heard this on the radio earlier at work. They are completely devoid of respect you know. They come from a prehistoric age. Why are we putting up with shysters like him and Mitchell? I dunno, they really do make me want to throw up, disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful!

The Councillor involved was interviewed on East Midlands Today News program during the interview he didn't say he was sorry for what he said only that he should have been more careful who he had said it to as he was only joking!!!!!!!!

Adele Carlyon wrote:I heard this on the radio earlier at work. They are completely devoid of respect you know. They come from a prehistoric age. Why are we putting up with shysters like him and Mitchell? I dunno, they really do make me want to throw up, disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful!

I would not worry Adele in todays DM the police are hitting back going round in Mitchells constituency with t-shirts saying "PC Phelb and Proud", plus they have a billboard campaign right outside the place where the Tories will be having there conference hall in Birmingham. Maybe the police on duty outside there could let a couple of unsavoury characters through the cordon.

'Young Man To Be Extradited Just For Doing What Grant Shapps Did'

Extracts from an article by Johnny Void:-

"Richard O’Dwyer faces extradition to the USA, and a possible 10-year jail sentence, for committing similar offences to the dodgy online company founded by Tory spiv Grant Shapps. O’Dwyer set up tvshack.net, a website which indexed links to movies and TV shows hosted elsewhere. Whilst O’Dwyer’s own website did not carry copyright material, he has still been charged with conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and criminal infringement of copyright.

Shapps, the new Tory Party chairman, ran howtocorp, a company which sells software designed to steal content from other websites and use it to automatically generate new websites. This content is ‘spun’, meaning a few words are changed around to fool search engines into thinking that the websites are publishing original content. O’Dwyer simply linked to copyright content; howtocorp not only used copyright material but made a fortune from actively promoting copyright violation through its software.

O’Dwyer did not even host his websites in the USA, unlike Shapps’ company which registered the website which promoted his software under a fake name. Registering a domain name using a false identity is an aggravating factor in prosecutions of online scams in the USA; Shapps, or his wife (who now controls the company), could be looking at 15 years. Almost every website operated by howtocorp has now disappeared offline, suggesting that the company is all too aware of the potential seriousness of its money-making scams.

Shapps hasn’t even lost his job. Neither has Andrew Mitchell, despite revelations that two men were jailed last year for Mitchell-style rants at police. Rarely have double standards been as self-evident as within this government of crooks."

Source:-
http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/the-young-man-being-extradited-for-what-grant-shapps-did/

Richard O’Dwyer is appealing against his extradition. If you wish to sign the petition supporting him (which already has over 225,000 signatures) you can do so at:-
http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard

IVAN....I'm surprised you have posted on this one too, so i thought I would help you out a little

The finances of a senior Labour MP were subject to a secret police investigation which uncovered hundreds of thousands of pounds in mystery bank accounts, it was reported today.

Keith Vaz, a minister in the Labour government, had almost £500,000 deposited in accounts between 1997 and 2001.

A Scotland Yard probe found 'significant amounts of cash' which was said to have been of a ‘suspicious nature’, the Daily Telegraph reported


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211141/Keith-Vaz-

I'm surprised you have posted on this one too

blueturando. Have or haven't? Besides, this is a thread about Tory scandals, which are occurring with increasing regularity, just as they did in the 1990s.

If Vaz has committed a crime, I hope they throw the book at him. Nobody is above the law, even if Cameron thinks that he, his government and his cronies are. The difference here is that while Vaz is being investigated by Scotland Yard, Shapps and Mitchell appear to be getting away with breaking the law, and yet Theresa May has agreed to extradite Richard O'Dwyer to the USA. Once again you're not comparing like with like.

The time seems to be fast approaching when the words "Spiv" and "Honourable Member of Parliament" effectively have the same meaning.

IVAN....Maybe the thread should be changed to 'Is this another political scandal brewing?' Or 'why are all politicians crooks?'

blueturando wrote:IVAN....Maybe the thread should be changed to 'Is this another political scandal brewing?' Or 'why are all politicians crooks?'

I do not see you referring to the scandals of the Thatcher gov't, they where rampant during 1979-1997 and it was not all to do with her friends been caught with there hands in the cookie jar when our public services where been sold there was a couple of sex scandals with Parkinson and Mellor and then we find out later on that Major liked a bit of Curry in the broom cupboard of the H.O.C. The scandals coming out of Scam..er..ons gov't it looks like he is trying to keep up with the Maggots gov't but the way things are looking he will beat her hands down.

Redflag.....You and I both know that we could highlight 'scandals' from all political parties, but hand picking those that suit your political agenda is pretty pointless and doesn't wash with the masses who see all politicians as 'Dodgy'....and rightly so (see expenses scandal for examples)

blueturando. Come off it, don't try neutralising the discussion with that lame and lazy argument. We are suffering from crony capitalism at its worst, because the Tories are privatising everything in sight and receiving large donations in return.

When Mandelson ticked the wrong box on a mortgage application, and when things went wrong at the Home Office under Charles Clarke, they were hounded out of office. Yet when Theresa May presided over a failure to check passports and didn't even know what day it was, when Jeremy Hunt was doing Murdoch's bidding, and now when Grant Shapps has been breaking the law, they all stay in office. Cameron has abused his position by entertaining people in Downing Street in exchange for large contributions to the party, while appointing one alleged criminal to his staff and befriending others. Osborne tells us "we're all in this together" but stashes his family wealth overseas, just as Hammond has done.

There's no comparison between this government and any other in living memory - it's rotten to the core and should be kicked out.

blueturando wrote:Redflag.....You and I both know that we could highlight 'scandals' from all political parties, but hand picking those that suit your political agenda is pretty pointless and doesn't wash with the masses who see all politicians as 'Dodgy'....and rightly so (see expenses scandal for examples)

The only dodgy ones are the ones in power at the moment, Hunt the best friend of Rupert Murdoch willing to hand over the rest of BSKYB for helping them to lie through there back teeth to get back into power in 2010, or the £250,000 dinners in No10 or chequers with a chance to change policy for dessert or Mitchell swearing at an SRO officer the very ones that stop terrorists from getting access to No 10 &No11 maybe now Scam..er..on will keep looking over his shoulder watching for the would be terrorists. But I think Ivan has put it far better than I can, I suggest you read his post on this subject.

Lol Redflag......If Ed had stood up there and farted the national anthem he would have 'stolen your heart'.


Erm...knock it off with the patronising snidey remarks eh Blue! If Red is impressed (I was too, massively in fact) with Ed's speech, then it's not for you to come out with shitty remarks like that! You have no idea what kinds of things can steal a persons heart, and I've always liked to think that you generally don't resort to taking the p*ss out of something that someone might feel passionately about.

Where has that comment gone by Blue that I just quoted?

My reply doesn't make much sense now that it's been removed!

Edit* I have no idea how I've managed to post my reply on the totally wrong thread. But my comments stand Bluey my dear boy! Don't be shitty, it doesn't suit you! I prefer your other avatar too, seeing as I'm feeling in a rather candid mood! The view was much nicer!

Thanks for the unnecessary censorship Adele, always good to see that democracy and freedom of speech is alive and well

I just think that reply was a bit beneath you. I'm not intending to censure you, we live in a free land "supposedly" I just thought it came across as a bit petty!

My fault, Adele. The topic had been diverted from Tory scandals to more about the positioning of the Labour Party, so I moved the last five posts to the appropriate thread. I should have locked this one first, sorry.

hahaha! Thanks for letting me know Ivan! I thought I was losing the plot! It wouldn't be the first time! I spend most of my days in a plotless state! lol

That kind of thing can happen when people are momentarily taken over by the God Complex, can't it Ivan? Only joking. Seriously!

Only joking seriously is the best kind of joking...seriously!! lol

Adele Carlyon wrote:Lol Redflag......If Ed had stood up there and farted the national anthem he would have 'stolen your heart'.


Erm...knock it off with the patronising snidey remarks eh Blue! If Red is impressed (I was too, massively in fact) with Ed's speech, then it's not for you to come out with shitty remarks like that! You have no idea what kinds of things can steal a persons heart, and I've always liked to think that you generally don't resort to taking the p*ss out of something that someone might feel passionately about.

Thanks Adele, but I do not think that would IMPRESS me but Eds speech yesterday turned my head good and proper, as you know Dennis Skinner and Andy Burnham are my ADONIS's and I hope they do not take offence but then again most of the women at conference feel the same way as myself.

I've met Andy quite a few times years back! I used to attend the same party meetings as him! He's really lovely, he's really passionate about what he believes in. Plus, he's kind of easy on the eyes too!

Adele Carlyon wrote:I've met Andy quite a few times years back! I used to attend the same party meetings as him! He's really lovely, he's really passionate about what he believes in. Plus, he's kind of easy on the eyes too!

Re-Phase that Adele, he is bloody gorgeous those eyes are enough to die for I hope is wife knows hoe lucky she is.

lol....Is this a start of a Labour scandal we don't know about

I'm saying nothing...it would be rude of me to comment about that brief encounter by the coffee machine in the town hall, I was so wet and steamy...



























when he bumped into me and knocked my coffee all over me!

Go and wash your dirty minds out! Shame on you! hahahahaha

Is Redflag a woman ?

Tosh wrote:Is Redflag a woman ?

Ask them! You've a 50/50 chance of being right.

Ask them! You've a 50/50 chance of being right.

Has she a split personality ?

Who is them ?

Assuming she is a woman then I apologise for my offensive comments.

Seems rather sexist Tosh, though probably lifesaving.