Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

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Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies

The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT

Strange how the left footers that normally whinge about the papers are giving credence to the daily rags and want somebody hung based on the reporting s. Shouldn't he be found guilty first?

Shouldn't he be found guilty first?

Shouldn't he face a formal enquiry first? What's the delay? The mechanism is already in place.

Leveson is absolutely NOT the right place for an enquiry into the internal convulsions of Government, it's about media phone-hacking corruption.

Though of course a number of people have a foot in both camps, and are quite happy to see the water muddied as much as possible.

All very true OW, you put me in the awkward position of agreeing with you

Hang on, we still need subscribers to be rude about.

Strange how the left footers that normally whinge about the papers are giving credence to the daily rags and want somebody hung based on the reportings

Here we go again. If it's tlttf, it must be another distortion.

The e-mail quoted by Dr Eoin Clarke was disclosed by Leveson and is not the fabrication of a journalist. Click on the link and you can see and enlarge a photograph of the evidence.
http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/jeremy-hunt-reassured-newscorp-that-he.html

Our friend tlttf likes to repeat lies and smears put about by Boris Johnson and his cronies, but that doesn't justify him judging others by his own low standards.

tlttf said; Shouldn't he be found guilty first.

Exactly why we need an enquirey now, his job is far too important for him to carry on with, whilst this matter is hanging over him.

Herr Cameron as I recall, asked for an enquirey to be held over anything and everything Labour said or did on the run up to the last election. Now its his turn, only he doesnt practice what he preaches does he.

Ivan wrote:

Strange how the left footers that normally whinge about the papers are giving credence to the daily rags and want somebody hung based on the reportings

Here we go again. If it's tlttf, it must be another distortion.

The e-mail quoted by Dr Eoin Clarke was disclosed by Leveson and is not the fabrication of a journalist. Click on the link and you can see and enlarge a photograph of the evidence.
http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/jeremy-hunt-reassured-newscorp-that-he.html

Our friend tlttf likes to repeat lies and smears put about by Boris Johnson and his cronies, but that doesn't justify him judging others by his own low standards.

Have you see this Ivan, it made me laugh a lot

bobby wrote:tlttf said; Shouldn't he be found guilty first.

Exactly why we need an enquirey now, his job is far too important for him to carry on with, whilst this matter is hanging over him.

Herr Cameron as I recall, asked for an enquirey to be held over anything and everything Labour said or did on the run up to the last election. Now its his turn, only he doesnt practice what he preaches does he.

How true Bobby that is, can you see the last government getting away with the Hunt business Bobby? as they would of killed them in the press.

Hello Emma. When in power Labour could get away with nothing, Herr Cameron and his tame Media dogs made sure of that, but when Ed Miliband justifiably calls for an enquirey on a matter of breaching the ministerial code and using ministerial office and staff for the benefit of the low life Murdoch's, he has to have an enquirey to either prove he has done nothing, then can get on with his job, or be found at fault and suffer the consequences in full.

If you get nicked by the Filth (police, London expression)) you stand to have a lesser sentence than you would if you dragged the thing out in court and then found guilty, I hope this applys to Jerremy ?unt.

bobby wrote:Hello Emma. When in power Labour could get away with nothing, Herr Cameron and his tame Media dogs made sure of that, but when Ed Miliband justifiably calls for an enquirey on a matter of breaching the ministerial code and using ministerial office and staff for the benefit of the low life Murdoch's, he has to have an enquirey to either prove he has done nothing, then can get on with his job, or be found at fault and suffer the consequences in full.

If you get nicked by the Filth (police, London expression)) you stand to have a lesser sentence than you would if you dragged the thing out in court and then found guilty, I hope this applys to Jerremy ?unt.

Hi bobby its just like I have been saying for months one law for them and another for the Tory party, the local elections are tomorrow and I will sit up all night watching the results so that I can savour every moment when i see a Tory or L/D loose there seat.

Hasn't anybody worked out yet that while all the politicians go to uni and come and get a job as a political researcher waiting for the party to drop them into a safe seat nothing will ever change. There is no left or right wing any more everybody is playing the centre card

Vote for an independent you know it makes sense, somebody that has lived in the area they intend to represent wouldn't go amiss either.

What's the name of the MP for Jersey, landy?

Admiral Paul Henry Ourry (1719–1783), MP, with 'Jersey'

Maybe he's been deposed by now but you never know!

tlttf wrote:Admiral Paul Henry Ourry (1719–1783), MP, with 'Jersey'

Maybe he's been deposed by now but you never know!

Knew him well. Everyone called him "smudge" after he had his portrait painted by Josh Reynolds.

Touche

tlttf wrote:Hasn't anybody worked out yet that while all the politicians go to uni and come and get a job as a political researcher waiting for the party to drop them into a safe seat nothing will ever change. There is no left or right wing any more everybody is playing the centre card

Vote for an independent you know it makes sense, somebody that has lived in the area they intend to represent wouldn't go amiss either.

Is that so the Tories will not LOOSE so many seats is that the reason for this post, if you think people will vote for the party that flung on the dole queue DREAM ON there only hope now is for them to rise up against the blue and yellow Tories and put them on the scrap heap where they belong. Separate them from the decent people or we could offer them a boat to FCUK OFF to the USA in, and get back to manufacturing and put the great back into Britain. :bom: :bom:

tlttf wrote:Hasn't anybody worked out yet that while all the politicians go to uni and come and get a job as a political researcher waiting for the party to drop them into a safe seat nothing will ever change. There is no left or right wing any more everybody is playing the centre card

Vote for an independent you know it makes sense, somebody that has lived in the area they intend to represent wouldn't go amiss either.

Morning Landy, why then would a person who advocates what you have said, then go on to vote for Doris Johnson in the Mayoral Election, and voted Tory in the last General Election?

Hiya bobby, voting for Boris because there is no independent running + living in London whether you like him or loathe him he actually gets things done and gets funding both privately and from the government, oh and he keeps giving me back money on the council tax. I don't care what/who his party is whilst mayor he acts for all. Easy really.

For my sins bobby I did vote tory last time out, the logic being they were the only ones able to remove the country wreckers that had decimated the place over the previous 13 years. Remember bobby vote independent initially within the council for local issues and eventually it grows to the point that the big 2 can be overturned, unfortunately it takes years to accomplish.

By the way mate, though I voted for Boris as mayor I've voted against a tory on the assembly (thought you might be interested).

More insight into Cameron's prolonged and sleazy relationship with Murdoch and his cronies:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ios-exclusive-revealed--camerons-secret-summit-with-news-corp-7717644.html

Journalists too make frequent use of cut 'n' paste. There is a great deal of reiteration in the particular article above, with a certain amount of barrel-scraping, e.g. " It is not known whether the future of the digital broadcaster was discussed at the meeting, but it is likely that the commercial interests of News Corp arose. The Conservatives never announced that the meeting had taken place." That meeting was between Cameron, and the then Prime Minister of Spain.

David Cameron, and possibly other Ministers, will be fortunate to survive the ultimate publication of Lord Leveson's enquiry into Press misdeeds with an unstained character.

Lets see who exactly started the Leveson enquiry in the first place. We all know Brown didn't when he had the opportunity, why do you think that was Ivan?

Ivan wrote:More insight into Cameron's prolonged and sleazy relationship with Murdoch and his cronies:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ios-exclusive-revealed--camerons-secret-summit-with-news-corp-7717644.html

Have seen that in todays papers Ivan apparently he was texting Rebecca Wade/Brooks around 12 times a day so her testimony at the Leveson Inquiry this week will be well worth watching, I wonder what Coulson will have to say at the inquiry, and it came out today that he has shares in the News International even when he took the job at No10, I think that Leveson inquiry will be more interesting than the H.O.C this week.

In the 1980s, Murdoch formed a close alliance with Conservative prime minister Margaret Thatcher. If we are to ask questions such as Quote " We all know Brown didn't when he had the opportunity, why do you think that was Ivan?" We might as well ask the same of the Witch. It's a pathetic question from tlttf as usual.

Poor old melly, Thatcher (80's) didn't rely on any paper (don't let that stop you though), why don't you talk about "R Tony and Broon" now there's a story you sad little man.

That's your one and only story tlttf, nothing new nothing fresh from you since the beginning of the past MSN forum *King Brown" and all that stupid nonsense. Change your pathetic record for everyones sake and debate about the tyrants self serving people like you voted in.
Oh I forgot, you say you are not a Tory supporter. Independant? my arse, people like you don't know the meaning of the word.

Unlike you i'm not sad and not little unless 6'4 height is deemed to be a "little man". No doubt you are a tiny squirt, people with your stupidity and rudeness usually are especially when hiding behind a non-de- plume.

tlttf wrote:Poor old melly, Thatcher (80's) didn't rely on any paper (don't let that stop you though), why don't you talk about "R Tony and Broon" now there's a story you sad little man.

Thatcher did help Murdoch remember the newspaper strike it was through his influence that the old witch took the Unions to Court and took away people RIGHT to go on strike, but do not worry the unions will not call the next strike it will be down to the workers that will have a GENERAL STRIKE. :bom:

tlttf wrote:-
Lets see who exactly started the Leveson Inquiry in the first place. We all know Brown didn't when he had the opportunity, why do you think that was Ivan?

LOL. You’ll have to do better than that with your crass smears and innuendo. When Gordon Brown was still in power, he was told by the Metropolitan Police that the phone-hacking was all down to one man, so why would there have been any need for an inquiry at that time? Even your vile friend Boris Johnson described the allegations of phone-hacking as “codswallop put about by the Labour Party”, but as he’s another of Murdoch’s cronies, he would say that, wouldn’t he? How proud you must be of yourself, having helped to inflict that piece of filth on Londoners for another four years.

There wouldn’t have been a Leveson Inquiry but for the ‘Guardian’ journalist Nick Davies, who exposed the extent of the phone-hacking scandal, and Ed Miliband, who then took up the cause and declared war on Murdoch. Please don’t try and pretend that Leveson was what Cameron wanted, other than as a device to play for time. If there’s any justice, Cameron and the rest of his corrupt band of arrogant, incompetent, self-serving gang of millionaires will be booted out of power in the very near future.

How interesting that last Friday (when attention was concentrated on election results), the Tories submitted an application to Leveson for 'core participation status'. Dr Eoin Clarke explains:-

“This means they want to be able to cross-examine witnesses to the tribunal, and they want to be able to make closing arguments on the government's behalf. Now, this is of course unacceptable. An inquiry ceases to become independent the moment you make the government a core participant. Not only that, the adversarial posturing that the government's barristers will adopt will bring the entire process into disrepute. The government will be seen to be trying to flout the legal process.

The more sinister, and growing, possibility is that this government is in the midst of a scandal as big as Watergate. Hunt, we know, failed to declare donations from BSkyB. We also know he boasted of ‘making chaos' on News Corp's behalf. Cameron has had several informal dinners with key members of News Corp and his own spin doctor, Andy Coulson, was complicit in phone hacking. Between that scandal and the conflicts of interest in the BSkyB merger/takeover, the government is in a whole pile of dung.”

http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/good-day-to-bury-sinister-news-gov.html

Ivan. And we mustn't forget it was Gordon Brown who implemented the Freedom of information act, without which, most of the damaging evidence would have been and remained hidden.

bobby wrote:Ivan. And we mustn't forget it was Gordon Brown who implemented the Freedom of information act, without which, most of the damaging evidence would have been and remained hidden.

Thanks for that bobby now I know why Scam..er..on and his cohorts do not like Gordon Brown, without him all the Tory sleaze would have been swept under the carpet now I know why G. B. did not get involved with Murdoch too much maybe Gordon would not play ball with the Murdochs.

A new book exposes the desperation of Cameron to woo Murdoch before the last election.

The book, by James Hanning and Francis Elliott, reveals that "Cameron wanted a clause inserted in Coulson's contract guaranteeing that he would not write a memoir, but Coulson refused. Tellingly, Osborne, tasked with brokering the hire, didn't feel they could insist and backed down."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ios-exclusive-revealed--how-coulson-called-camerons-bluff-7742363.html

Freedom of Information Act which allows Governments to overrule what information can be released? Do we know what's happening in the Health Service? Only what they can't hide at the moment. Of course it will be free, when they decide it's too late for any useful purpose in withholding it.
Who actually knows what is hidden without knowing the right questions to ask?
Rather like studying or even science. We would get farther faster if we knew exactly what questions to ask.

Ivan wrote:A new book exposes the desperation of Cameron to woo Murdoch before the last election.

The book, by James Hanning and Francis Elliott, reveals that "Cameron wanted a clause inserted in Coulson's contract guaranteeing that he would not write a memoir, but Coulson refused. Tellingly, Osborne, tasked with brokering the hire, didn't feel they could insist and backed down."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ios-exclusive-revealed--how-coulson-called-camerons-bluff-7742363.html

I believe that its possible that Rebekah Brooks may have a book in mind also Ivan she was quite shy with her answers to the Leveson inquiry maybe saving the juicy bits for that book.

I can't understand all these accusations of Tory scandal. We never had such trouble when that nice Mr Major was Prime Minister.

Eggwina Curry and him...getting jiggy? WTFig? I mean eeew

Eggwina Curry and him...getting jiggy? WTFig? I mean eeew

..beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Do you aspire to pre-conceived ideals of beauty, and love, as defined by the media?

sickchip wrote: Do you aspire to pre-conceived ideals of beauty, and love, as defined by the media?

Are you saying, your wife (if you have one) married a right ugly sod, who's earning capacity is less than his Boss.

Clearly, Love is Blind

(dailymail.co.uk)

" There's something kinda cute about the way you wipe your specs on your underpants when I steam them up..."

Many people have commented that we get the Government we deserve.

We must have been very naughty since 2009.

Positively delinquent in fact!

oftenwrong wrote:Many people have commented that we get the Government we deserve.

We must have been very naughty since 2009.

I would have rather been put on the NAUGHTY STEP OW I think that would have been less painful.

Phil Hornby wrote:Clearly, Love is Blind

(dailymail.co.uk)

" There's something kinda cute about the way you wipe your specs on your underpants when I steam them up..."

YUCK and DOUBLE YUCK, I wonder if Norma knew that while he was sitting eating peas with her, while at work he was nicking into the Broom Cupboard to have his Curry mild medium or hot.