Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 1)

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Justice minister stripped of powers

Ken Clarke to take charge after Djanogly failed to declare family interest in claims management companies

The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

Djanogly, the heir to a £300m family business, had failed to declare that his teenage children were minority shareholders in his brother-in-law's businesses – two firms that advertise claims and are part of an industry that Djanogly regulated in government.

Do you get the feeling that after each Revelation about members of this government you just have to shout NEXT

Thanks for that info Ivan, it just goes to prove one law for the POSH BOYS and another law for us PLEBS.

another Tory scandal brewing?

They're still thinking-up spiffing wheezes while there's still time: Energy Minister John Hayes is proposing what is effectively a "blank cheque" for the Nuclear Industry by underwriting the cost of new power stations, according to a letter from Paul Dorfman of Warwick University to The Independent.

Government subsidies to the Nuclear Industry in the 1970s have worked through into the price we now pay for electricity.

Ivan wrote:"Tory MP David Amess, with two London homes, claims £8,500 in hotel bills from the capital."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mp-david-amess-claims-1390775

Once again they have there trouts in the trough of the taxpayers money, will they never learn if an MP lives in London or the within easy access to there OWN home they should not be allowed to claim housing allowance, after all they are not willing to pay for housing benefit for the normal man/women who are on low pay or through the tories are not working and then slap a bedroom tax on those that have a home. I'm sure you all will remember claims for Duck houses and Moat cleaning and David Laws who had to resign after 6 weeks in office for dodgy housing allowance claiming, and after all this the same people expect the voting public to put them back in office in 2015, myself I would cut both hands off without anesthetic before putting any kind of mark on my ballot paper.

"Loan firm’s wonga buys the ears of ministers"
Conservative ministers agreed to hold meetings with the controversial payday loans company Wonga - in exchange for payments to the party:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/loans/9613729/Loan-firms-wonga-buys-the-ears-of-ministers.html

Birds of a feather ....

Ivan wrote:"Loan firm’s wonga buys the ears of ministers"
Conservative ministers agreed to hold meetings with the controversial payday loans company Wonga - in exchange for payments to the party:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/loans/9613729/Loan-firms-wonga-buys-the-ears-of-ministers.html

I suppose you know Ivan that Lord Beecroft (huge tory donor) owns a big chunk of Wonga, the same man that got policies through to put an end too workers rights and he is one of many that contribute vast amounts to fund the tory party.

To the common man, such predators are no less deadly than a jungle parasite which sucks every last drop of blood from its victim.

oftenwrong wrote:To the common man, such predators are no less deadly than a jungle parasite which sucks every last drop of blood from its victim.

"BLOOD SUCKERS" every one of the Tories, there is not a decent one among them and there friends in the big companies that AVOID paying there correct amount of tax while the tories do S.F.A.

Top adviser to PM quits No.10 for job with 'legal loan sharks' company Wonga
Prime Minister's adviser on digital strategy, Jonathan Luff, will move to Wonga with immediate effect
Payday loan company is already under investigation by the Office of Fair Trading.

It comes only weeks after it emerged that Tory ministers agreed to hold meetings with Wonga at the party’s annual conference in exchange for donations.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225514/Top-adviser-PM-quits-No-10-Wonga-job.html#ixzz2AtZJdWkj

Where there's muck, there's Brass, (and predatory operators.)

astradt1 wrote:Top adviser to PM quits No.10 for job with 'legal loan sharks' company Wonga
Prime Minister's adviser on digital strategy, Jonathan Luff, will move to Wonga with immediate effect
Payday loan company is already under investigation by the Office of Fair Trading.

It comes only weeks after it emerged that Tory ministers agreed to hold meetings with Wonga at the party’s annual conference in exchange for donations.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225514/Top-adviser-PM-quits-No-10-Wonga-job.html#ixzz2AtZJdWkj

I take it from your post Lord Beecroft has been in No10 poaching Scam..er..on trained staff astrad1.

Another scandal for you to digest.....Oh no!!! He's in the wrong party to take a swipe at, so sorry for my error fellow posters

Former Europe Minister Denis MacShane is facing the prospect of a new police investigation into his expense claims after submitting 19 false invoices.
The Committee on Standards and Privileges today demanded he be suspended from the Commons for a year in a report on what said it was the 'gravest case' it had come across which had not gone to court.
The committee recommended the 12-month suspension punishment without pay after finding Mr MacShane submitted 19 false invoices worth £12,900 ‘plainly intended to deceive’ Parliament's expenses authority.
The Labour MP for Rotherham also claimed thousands of pounds for computers and laptops, including one which he allowed an intern to keep after they stopped working for him.
The committee said it was the 'gravest case' it had come across which had not gone to court

As there isn’t a more appropriate place for the MacShane story, it can stay here for now, but this thread is about the multitude of Tory scandals and must stay on topic. Perhaps we should have had a separate thread for all the fiddling of expenses that’s been uncovered, but most of it is ‘old hat’ now.

blueturando wrote:-
Former Europe Minister Denis MacShane is facing the prospect of a new police investigation into his expense claims after submitting 19 false invoices.

Maybe. A Tory MP, Philip Davies, no doubt hoping to stir things up, has written to the Met, which decided in July this year that no action would be taken against MacShane. They had been investigating since October 2010.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18701758

MacShane has done wrong and can’t be defended. He has now resigned as an MP, something that the first culprit to be found out, Derek Conway, did not do; he stayed put for the remainder of the parliament.

A friend of Mr MacShane, human rights lawyer Mark Stephens told BBC Radio 4's ‘The World At One’ the proposed sentence for the MP was "grossly disproportionate" and said the complaint, made by the BNP, was "politically motivated".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20178332

What baffles me is why this case is considered so much worse than that of say David Laws, who wrongly claimed more than £40,000 but is back in a government role again. Why a number of members of the cabinet fiddled their expenses but nothing was done. It seems that who faces justice is an arbitrary matter; personally, I’d kick out all fiddlers.

Iffin yer face fits - - -

Paradoxically, 'MacShanegate' is also a Tory scandal - of sorts.

While the man appears to be a crook and must therefore pay a heavy price, he has at least been suspended -as I understand it -by the Labour Party. Contrast this with the fate of the Tory fiddlers who are either excused, promoted or remain as Prime Minister. The mistake MacShane made was not having wisteria growing on his house and shoving in a multitude of spectacularly expensive claims for its trimming. Clearly in Tory Britain , it is only the 'others' whose dishonesty is of importance...

Blessed are the Lawmakers, for they shall excuse themselves in advance.

cf Berlusconi, S. Italia

Ivan wrote:"Tory MP David Amess, with two London homes, claims £8,500 in hotel bills from the capital."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mp-david-amess-claims-1390775

I do not see any of the Tory MPs getting barred from the H.O.C, while McShane has lost his membership to the Labour party and will have to stand down, it was the same with Laws L/D he paid his partner £60,000 in rent while living with him and he is back in gov't while McShane amount was around £15,000. What is going on the examples you have given Ivan there is plenty of Tories still fiddling there expenses perhaps its "Scam..er..on is Fixing It" for the chosen few. Maybe you can explain it Ivan.

Yep they all fiddled their expenses, yet they did it within the rules that allowed it. A big difference between fiddling the system and making up false receipts as I'm sure you'll all agree!

One cannot imagine the odd false receipt preventing a Tory hand-dipper from having his crime quietly hushed-up by a sympathetic Party Machine. When it comes to generating disgust and indignation at a fraudulent activity , the hypocritical Tories are only exercised by the offences of the 'pleb' classes...

Phil Hornby wrote:One cannot imagine the odd false receipt preventing a Tory hand-dipper from having his crime quietly hushed-up by a sympathetic Party Machine. When it comes to generating disgust and indignation at a fraudulent activity , the hypocritical Tories are only exercised by the offences of the 'pleb' classes...

You are SPOT on with this one PH, I wonder what has happened to the recent scandal of renting from another MP more so the Tories that have more than one property and claiming allowances for both one they live in the other one they are renting out to a fellow member and the rent will be SKY HIGH.

Why don't we just open a hostel in Westminster for politicians to stay at when they have to be in the Capital? - maybe something like University halls of residence - they could have a canteen on site, maybe a couple of conference rooms, and a secretarial pool, perhaps an Oyster card or similar so they can travel around London. With less comfort and looking after I managed post graduate study and for years held down a job that kept me out for 12+ hours many days, so a complex job and a lot of reading are definitely doable under those circumstances.
If a grateful nation provided all that free of charge, surely they wouldn't then need to claim expenses because their needs would be met.
Those who didn't like it could finance their own accommodation and travel.

maybe something like University halls of residence

Or, a Military barracks Revalleigh at 0400hrs, luvverly

MacShane Bemoans his Fate

(english.ruvr.ru)

" What rotten luck- I'd forgotten you had to be a Tory to get a Peerage for falsifying expenses..."

boatlady wrote:Why don't we just open a hostel in Westminster for politicians to stay at when they have to be in the Capital? - maybe something like University halls of residence - they could have a canteen on site, maybe a couple of conference rooms, and a secretarial pool, perhaps an Oyster card or similar so they can travel around London. With less comfort and looking after I managed post graduate study and for years held down a job that kept me out for 12+ hours many days, so a complex job and a lot of reading are definitely doable under those circumstances.
If a grateful nation provided all that free of charge, surely they wouldn't then need to claim expenses because their needs would be met.
Those who didn't like it could finance their own accommodation and travel.

That is a good idea boatlady, I agree they should not be allowed to claim expenses that way nobody would get themselves into trouble, the Oyster card sounds good but only up to a certain amount on the card.

the Oyster card sounds good but only up to a certain amount on the card



Let the bastards walk then they can tell us "we are all in this together" Now we have a Government gloating over the reduction in road accidents, not bad with less Rozzers on the beat you might think, but the truth is there are less accidents because less people are using their cars because they cant afford the squirt.

bobby wrote:the Oyster card sounds good but only up to a certain amount on the card



Let the bastards walk then they can tell us "we are all in this together" Now we have a Government gloating over the reduction in road accidents, not bad with less Rozzers on the beat you might think, but the truth is there are less accidents because less people are using their cars because they cant afford the squirt.

I agree bobby some of the MPs are just a hop skip and a jump away from the H.O.C, it would be better for some of the MPs walk there are several that are grossly OBESE and the exercise would do them good they talk about the general public costing the NHS loads of money through being obese.

Culture Minister Maria Miller denies effects of inflation.

Wearing that uplift bra? She's got a cheek!

boatlady wrote:Wearing that uplift bra? She's got a cheek!

To be honest boatlady she looks a bloody mess, for being a minister to me her clothes look as if they are bad fitting.

Can't argue with you there

boatlady wrote:Can't argue with you there

Just like everything else she does not have a bloody CLUE.

bobby wrote:I've never seen a woman wiv tits on her shoulders before, but then I have never looked closely at Tory Woman.

You are a sensible person person bobby, most tory women look like horses but then we never get a chance to see tory women because Scam..er..on Ideology has women tied in the kitchen he thinks thats there rightful place.

You are a sensible person person bobby, most tory women look like horses but then we never get a chance to see tory women because Scam..er..on Ideology has women tied in the kitchen he thinks thats there rightful place..

Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn....Please wake me up when you have something sensible and worthwhile to discuss...Enjoy school tomorrow...Night, night

blueturando wrote:

You are a sensible person person bobby, most tory women look like horses but then we never get a chance to see tory women because Scam..er..on Ideology has women tied in the kitchen he thinks thats there rightful place..

Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn....Please wake me up when you have something sensible and worthwhile to discuss...Enjoy school tomorrow...Night, night

Maybe if Scam..er..on had a lot more females in his cabinet instead of being DISRESPECTFUL to females in the H.O.C, you might be able to stop YAWNINGGggggggggggggggggg blue.

Tory MP Stephen Dorrell, who is investigating Britain’s social care system, secretly arranged for the owners of a chain of nursing homes to buy his London flat – which he now rents back at taxpayers’ expense:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/9691993/MPs-expenses-top-Tory-in-secret-deal.html

Lucky it's not a council house, otherwise he'd have been docked £80 a week for any spare bedroom.

Just as Thatcher was happy to take money from the likes of Asil Nadir, Cameron isn't very fussy either:-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-slammed-for-taking-more-1447824#.UKzXpMQE2DA.twitter

Ivan wrote:Just as Thatcher was happy to take money from the likes of Asil Nadir, Cameron isn't very fussy either:-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-slammed-for-taking-more-1447824#.UKzXpMQE2DA.twitter

Thanks for that Ivan but got the Daily Mirror today and read that report, did you see who some of the Tory MPs have as there landlord and what they are charging the tax payers Scam..er..on is charging £700.00 per week for the rental of his family home in north Kensington while he lives in No10, also Osborne charges £3,000 per week for his family home in Notting Hill while he is living at No11. These same people talk about welfare scroungers sorry Ivan FCUKING CHEEK they need to sort out there own back yard before they start to CUT the benefits of hard working people of the UK.

Empty property is an insult to the homeless, and presumably the landlords mentioned are paying 20% of the rent received in personal income tax.

Aren't they?