Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 1)

astra wrote:http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2012/04/09/bank_holidays_cost_economy_18bn

Get it here.

Scrapping public holidays could add £18 billion to the nation's annual economic output, according to a think-tank.

The Centre for Economics and Business Research said each bank holiday costs the United Kingdom economy in the region of £2 billion.

Thanks astra but as we know its all the biggest pile of verbal diarrhoea that ever came of the Tory party spin machine.

Phil Hornby wrote:Thanks for coming to my rescue, Redflag. I was so shocked by Ivanhoe's language ( and at Easter, too!) that I was still recovering from the onslaught with a sit-down and a glass of milk.

I may have raised the issue a trifle prematurely, but I just thought I would try and see what it felt like to be a Tory and make something up and present it as unassailable fact...

Shocked by "blazes", flippin' eck.

Jings, crivvens, help ma bob!

" Shocked by "blazes", flippin' eck."

Have you ever been introduced to Mr Irony, Ivanhoe...?

He sure as'ell 'as now!! :affraid:

Phil Hornby wrote:" Shocked by "blazes", flippin' eck."

Have you ever been introduced to Mr Irony, Ivanhoe...?

I wrote the book.

PH wrote: Have you ever been introduced to Mr Irony, Ivanhoe...?

A meeting was I believe arranged some weeks ago, but after visiting this thread, Mr Irony had it away on his toes.

bambu. "No he's not.
He's intelligent, well spoken, and can see that multiculturalism has been a dismal failure in Britain, and has spoken out about it, on the world stage."

You cut yourself short here bambu as you ommited to add---- He is also a liar, a cheat and a complete Con artist.

A very well heeled typical Tory so called gentleman.

The Toffs have realised that they can hiss on the proletariate and get away with it.

Who was it that decided to let them do so?

oftenwrong wrote:The Toffs have realised that they can hiss on the proletariate and get away with it.

Who was it that decided to let them do so?

Tory voters before and at the last general election.

More likely the 30+% of the electorate that didn't vote at all.

PETROL panic minister Francis Maude has sparked more fury — by boasting about turning the UK into a tax haven for the rich.
He said suggestions that the Coalition wanted to make Britain a place where wealthy foreigners came to avoid paying high tax was “a compliment”.

Mr Maude — who sparked a fuel crisis by saying people should fill up jerry cans and store them in their garage to beat a tanker drivers’ strike — made his latest gaffe at a London conference.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4243663/Maude-ness.html

I thought my friend was taking the wee wee! With Politicians thinking like this, the UK public does not need enemys!

Are the Torys not glad Blair and Brown ended the British Treason act?

Add this to the litany of despair! -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/offshorefinance/8862135/Tax-havens-benefit-the-economy-say-Tory-MP.html

astra wrote:

PETROL panic minister Francis Maude has sparked more fury — by boasting about turning the UK into a tax haven for the rich.
He said suggestions that the Coalition wanted to make Britain a place where wealthy foreigners came to avoid paying high tax was “a compliment”.

Mr Maude — who sparked a fuel crisis by saying people should fill up jerry cans and store them in their garage to beat a tanker drivers’ strike — made his latest gaffe at a London conference.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4243663/Maude-ness.html

I thought my friend was taking the wee wee! With Politicians thinking like this, the UK public does not need enemys!

Are the Torys not glad Blair and Brown ended the British Treason act?

Add this to the litany of despair! -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/offshorefinance/8862135/Tax-havens-benefit-the-economy-say-Tory-MP.html

Did you really expect anything else from one of Thatchers MUPPETS. :pirat: :pirat:

Don't forget those who said "its time for a change" ha!! OW.

and those who really thought the Lib Dems were a reasonable bunch.

What a shock!!!!!!!

AwfulTruth wrote:Bread and circuses were never a way to foster good cheer - were they?

Will Cameron never learn anything? For the sake of logical expediency sometimes we all deserve a little perquisite - some pleasure or relief from the treadmill.

We have much fewer public holidays than most of Europe!

What on earth are you talking about? Back to work serf. Ban all bank holidays. 7 day trading, with an hour off on Sunday to go to church. I'm quite happy with that, for the good of the country.

Oh. I forgot. I'm retired.

We are at the bottom of the holiday list for EU countries, including annual holidays, bank holidays, for employees with 10 years service. So why should we miss any which are removed:roll:.

I agree with your 'little perquisite'. Most people find life stressful with the pressure of trying to exist at the moment. Though I wonder if we haven't brought it upon ourselves to some extent. In good times we have demanded more and more requiring overtime, and extra hours for shops to be open 7 days a week.

Of course, profit money spent on modernisation of machinery and production methods, instead of large bonuses would have helped. Investment in the country and not investment in personal wealth. Perhaps it's too late for us. For most of us who will have to manage during the 'hard times' will we learn any lessons. Our parents/grandparents learnt during the wars, but it's not acceptable to expect the poor to consider less in any terms when they see the rich prospering.

The one thing to consider with pleasure is the amount of 'clangers' coming from 'crass statements' by 'crass' Politicians.

www.thefreedictionary.com/crass
So crude and unrefined as to be lacking in discrimination and sensibility
5 Days working hard, Saturday for shopping and Sunday for the wife and kids. Sorry, and partners. We used to manage quite well. Ah well, tell me I'm out-of-date.

But then, what do I know.

Italy and France have a different Bank Holiday System than we in the UK.
As we all know. If a bank holiday falls on a weekend, we have lieu days, whereas in Italy and France they don’t enjoy the benefit of the day in lieu so loose out. Some time back I worked it out over several years, and it just about broke even, Although we have fewer actual bank holidays, at least they are guaranteed days off, whereas other take pot luck as to what day of the week the bank holiday falls on.

My recollection of the various discussions about British Bank Holidays is that everyone agrees there should be a more even distribution throughout the year.

In 2012, after the Queen's Jubilee celebration on 5th. June, there is only ONE more between that and Christmas.

oftenwrong wrote:My recollection of the various discussions about British Bank Holidays is that everyone agrees there should be a more even distribution throughout the year.

In 2012, after the Queen's Jubilee celebration on 5th. June, there is only ONE more between that and Christmas.

Business people are complaining that Bank holidays interfere with production and profits and that they should be done away with at once. They are costing business billions of pounds, i doubt if workers forced to work the days that were bank holidays would be better of, probably worse.

The unwritten British Constitution

Anybody who wants MY money better be prepared to WORK for it.

Coalition front-bench 2011-2012

Who bets that they will ban some bank holidays?

Anything is possible in the Twilight Zone...

Mel wrote:Don't forget those who said "its time for a change" ha!! OW.

and those who really thought the Lib Dems were a reasonable bunch.

What a shock!!!!!!!

I would have put that as more than a shock Mel more in the region of a NIGHTMARE.

Francis Maude, he used to have the highest number of directorships of any MP and , of course, is a multi millionaire. He is Tory old guard, hence what you hear from his lips is the real mantra . It would be a ‘compliment’ if Britain were seen as a place where foreigners paid little or no tax is the true Tories talking , Cameron has a rear guard action 24/7 to distance himself from the truth sayers for the media and public , behind closed doors the guy is steeped in duplicity.
Bank holiday's days are numbered in my opinion , work em till they drop will be the nasty party mantra.

(C) Google / Scarecrow

Scarecrow wrote:Francis Maude, he used to have the highest number of directorships of any MP and , of course, is a multi millionaire. He is Tory old guard, hence what you hear from his lips is the real mantra . It would be a ‘compliment’ if Britain were seen as a place where foreigners paid little or no tax is the true Tories talking , Cameron has a rear guard action 24/7 to distance himself from the truth sayers for the media and public , behind closed doors the guy is steeped in duplicity.
Bank holiday's days are numbered in my opinion , work em till they drop will be the nasty party mantra.

(C) Google / Scarecrow

Do you remember Francis Maude being Thatchers blue eyed boy (MUPPET) so the thatcher mantra is still being peddled, I agree with what you say about the bank holidays being on the hit list of the Tories SC also the minimum wage on there hit list too. picture very apt SC

very quiet about the Forests! No I do not believe that has been forgotten, just put at the back of the drawer.

astra wrote:very quiet about the Forests! No I do not believe that has been forgotten, just put at the back of the drawer.

To be brought back out if they get another term in 2015 so "England Beware".

The privatisation of our forests, will be held off untill they need another smokescreen, to cover an even more nasty policy.

bobby wrote:The privatisation of our forests, will be held off untill they need another smokescreen, to cover an even more nasty policy.

Hi bobby it will be up to the people of the UK to have there eyes wide open and there ears a FLAPPING.

Redflag wrote:

bobby wrote:The privatisation of our forests, will be held off untill they need another smokescreen, to cover an even more nasty policy.

Hi bobby it will be up to the people of the UK to have there eyes wide open and there ears a FLAPPING.

Hi Redflag. The word "there" in the context of your sentence, is spelt "their". Sorry, but I just had to tell you.

Ivanhoe wrote : "Hi Redflag. The word "there" in the context of your sentence, is spelt "their". Sorry, but I just had to tell you"

Now why was that then Ivanhoe, does it make you feel superior when you can point out a simple mistake made by someone else. Personaly with all the Tory crap being thrown at us, the last thing we need is some pedantic old sod trying to score points.

Oh some people are sooooo persnickety over spelling , slightly anally retentive.
As long as I can understand the post , no worries . Everyone does not use spellchecker , spulchequer , shpellchecker ha ha .

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe wrote : "Hi Redflag. The word "there" in the context of your sentence, is spelt "their". Sorry, but I just had to tell you"

Now why was that then Ivanhoe, does it make you feel superior when you can point out a simple mistake made by someone else. Personaly with all the Tory crap being thrown at us, the last thing we need is some pedantic old sod trying to score points.

I could not agree more bobby, I just wanted to see if there would be a reaction, and there was. Tory crap it is, but for how long, ?, a full term methinks.

Everyone does not use spellchecker , spulchequer , shpellchecker ha ha .

Try spielchucker. There's plenty of those in Government. And all they say is in gobbledegook, coming from their Gang and mobs.

Cameron's Teacher-in-Chief, Michael Gove, has introduced phonics as an aid to learning to read. (As was habitual in the 1930s. ) But this is electronic, so will have the advantage of being consistent in the sounds learned. So far so good, but testing will involve artificial words as well as normal English.

Will children now develop a private language among themselves which adults can't understand?

ow said. Will children now develop a private language among themselves which adults can't understand?

I thought they already had?

Cameron thinks that children should stand up when a teacher comes into the room. An old-fashioned idea that some may think has merits, although real respect has to be earned not enforced. Cameron's comment might have more credibility if he wasn't allowing that insidious creep Gove to undermine the teaching profession at every opportunity.

However, Cameron's latest collection of rear-end utterances went even further. He thinks that children should stand up when their parents come into a room! Is that what used to happen in his family drawing room after nanny had given him supper, I wonder?

It's frightening that this out-of-touch lunatic is running the country. It seems that we haven't progressed from the early 1960s, when 'Lady Chatterley's Lover' was on trial for obscenity and the prosecutor asked the jury: "Would you want your servants reading this book?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/20/david-cameron-real-discipline?CMP=twt_gu

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe wrote : "Hi Redflag. The word "there" in the context of your sentence, is spelt "their". Sorry, but I just had to tell you"

Now why was that then Ivanhoe, does it make you feel superior when you can point out a simple mistake made by someone else. Personaly with all the Tory crap being thrown at us, the last thing we need is some pedantic old sod trying to score points.

Thank you bobby I do not think that Ivanhoe meant anything bad in it so do not worry.

Ivan wrote:Cameron thinks that children should stand up when a teacher comes into the room. An old-fashioned idea that some may think has merits, although real respect has to be earned not enforced. Cameron's comment might have more credibility if he wasn't allowing that insidious creep Gove to undermine the teaching profession at every opportunity.

However, Cameron's latest collection of rear-end utterances went even further. He thinks that children should stand up when their parents come into a room! Is that what used to happen in his family drawing room after nanny had given him supper, I wonder?

It's frightening that this out-of-touch lunatic is running the country. It seems that we haven't progressed from the early 1960s, when 'Lady Chatterley's Lover' was on trial for obscenity and the prosecutor asked the jury: "Would you want your servants reading this book?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/20/david-cameron-real-discipline?CMP=twt_gu

If Cameron said the grass was green, I wouldnt believe him. But he has raised the issue of discipline. But at grass roots level, discipline cant happen without parents and teachers consolidation, and it was Thatcher who gave parents choice over teachers, and who banished the cane from schools, because we are a country of freedom and choice.

Redflag wrote:

Scarecrow wrote:Francis Maude, he used to have the highest number of directorships of any MP and , of course, is a multi millionaire. He is Tory old guard, hence what you hear from his lips is the real mantra . It would be a ‘compliment’ if Britain were seen as a place where foreigners paid little or no tax is the true Tories talking , Cameron has a rear guard action 24/7 to distance himself from the truth sayers for the media and public , behind closed doors the guy is steeped in duplicity.
Bank holiday's days are numbered in my opinion , work em till they drop will be the nasty party mantra.

(C) Google / Scarecrow

Do you remember Francis Maude being Thatchers blue eyed boy (MUPPET) so the thatcher mantra is still being peddled, I agree with what you say about the bank holidays being on the hit list of the Tories SC also the minimum wage on there hit list too. picture very apt SC

Just an up-date on the minimum wage, I was watching the sunday paper review on Sky news 24 the Regional Wage that scam..er..on wants to introduce is so that if you work outside of London your wages will be lower than those that work inside London and he reckons that will get the economy going by handing over cheap labour to his Tory donors and the big companies can make more profit off the backs of the workers.

introduce is so that if you work outside of London your wages will be lower than those that work inside London [quote]


RED FLAG, I always thought that that was what "London Weighting" was for!

Lundingers have always had that bit added to their wages because they live there - poor misguided souls!