Are the Tories velvet glove fascists?

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In my opinion, the UK under our extreme right-wing government is rapidly degenerating into velvet glove fascism.

Like all fascists, Hitler was against trade unions and socialists. Similarly, Michael Gove vilified primary school teachers and dinner ladies, many of whom went on strike for the first time in their lives on 30 November last year, as “militants itching for a fight”. Gove has plans for military cadets in every school (Cameron Youth?) and a return to children sitting in rows reciting lists of kings and queens in history lessons, rather than learning to think. Hitler also realised how important history was to indoctrination when he ordered the mass burning of books. Tories close libraries.

Hitler made sure that he controlled the media. The Tories have cowed the BBC by threats of fragmentation and sharing the licence fee with others, such as Murdoch. The BBC, which was required to be impartial, has become just another mouthpiece for Tory propaganda. As soon as they came to power in 2010, the Tories instructed every minister to repeat over and over again the whopping lie that Labour, not Tory bankers, caused the global credit crisis. We have the repeated lie about everyone in the public sector getting “gold-plated pensions”, when the average is only £5,600 per annum. As Goebbels said: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Cameron has proved over and over again that he’s a pathological liar.

Hitler divided and ruled the German people by scapegoating Jews and gypsies. The Tories are demonising those who receive benefits, one result of which is that disability hate crimes are increasing. Duncan Smith went on breakfast television on 27 May 2010 and made the chilling remark: "Work makes you free". That's an exact translation of the sign which used to hang over the entrances to concentration camps.

The Tories have plans to force 50,000 disabled youth to work for companies such as Sainsbury's and Tesco's unpaid. Cancer patients are being made to undergo work assessments while being treated with chemotherapy, and wounded soldiers are being sacked. (Osborne is willing to take money from the disabled and cancer patients, but not prepared to veto Hester's bonus from the largely state-owned RBS.)

The police are being trained to shoot people with rubber bullets and will be issued with water cannon, yet the Tories were so keen on helping Arab rebels in North Africa. Two unknown Scottish teenagers made a joke on 'Facebook' about organising riots, and they both received four years in jail. A prominent Tory TV presenter (and personal friend of Cameron) made a tasteless joke about murdering trade unionists on prime time television; nothing was done about it and the BBC continue to pay him £1 million a year of our money.

We don't have any concentration camps in the UK, but the principles are the same - propaganda, indoctrination, and divide and rule by demonising a section of the population. While Hitler gassed Jews, the Tories clearly don't care if benefit claimants starve to death. Even payments from the Social Fund, for those in the most desperate need, will no longer be available from job centres but will be at the 'discretion' of local councils, who will not have to ring-fence the money. All the ingredients of fascism are there, but it's just being handed out to us in a more genteel form than Hitler used - in velvet gloves.

Ivanhoe wrote: When you moved to where you are, you wanted out, instead of staying put and helping in what is a class fight. You are a living example of everything wrong with the British.

What a nasty thing to say to possibly the most honest (albeit dilusional) poster on Cutting Edge

Aren’t you the geezer who said in a post to me, “I am a gentleman”. What a bleeding hypocrite. As to where Bluey lives and why he lives there is absolutely bugger all to do with you, anyway I think your post was personally insulting to Bluey and that you should beg his forgiveness immediately, or prepare to be treated in the same manner in which you have treated him.

Blueturando wrote: In my opinion Strikes are not the answer and a good majority of the general public will not support them.


Hello Bluey, How are you keeping. You are absolutely spot on Bluey, if the industrial action is against an employer. But when it’s a protest against the evil doings of a Government then strike action and any other form of “legal” civil disobedience has got to be considered. Working to rule or any other form of action really doesn’t effect the Government too much, whereas a General strike and public marches show the rest of the world that the Government can not manage the Country, and all of this mythical investment Herr Cameron claims will come to Britain on the Back of Labours Olympic Games will be seen as not happening.

Isn’t it strange, not once have I heard your Tory shits say, “The Olympics we inherited from Labour”

Hi Bobby,

I am very well thank you and I hope you are keeping well too. Striking in Public services will only hurt those people who need the services the most...usually the less well off in society. What this country needs is people to strike/demonstrate and hound the houses of parliament and their local MP's until some action is taken....Hit them at the heart, where they cannot escape the consequences, just because they have enough money to go private on everything
To be fair to Boris, he did pay tribute to the work that Ken had done on the Olympics....No one is listening to what the other Tories say on it anyway and no cares either......Cameron is Shi*tting his pants

When you moved to where you are, you wanted out, instead of staying put and helping in what is a class fight. You are a living example of everything wrong with the British.

Ivanhoe....A disappointing comment from someone who really should know better. I don't know what your background is and it's none of my business, but the reason I moved to Jersey a good few years ago is simple.....

I was raised on a less than pleasant council estate, racked with crime, violence and drugs. At 18 I had the opportunity to get out, find somewhere 'nicer' to go, somewhere I could get some work and avoid the local gangs of skinheads etc. I had already been promised a summer job as a night porter in a hotel (Hardly millionaire stuff) Now what person in my position wouldn't take that opportunity (As Thatchers henchman said at the time 'get on ya bike')...so I did. I also found a place free of all the crap I had been used to when growing up and that safer environment certainly appealed to me.
Here I was not judged on what my upbringing was or what estate I lived on, so I had more opportunities to make a better life for myself....Was that so bad?

As for the 'Class fight'??? Please don't kid yourself. 99% of people aspire to a better life and better things for themselves and their families, it's only natural to want this. Most of these people do not care about or understand the politics, so the class fight as you put it is irrelevent. The working classes (if that still exists) have been let down by a succession of governments for decades in all areas...a list too long to mention. So many people have given up the political fight, because they don't get anything different from one government to the next

bobby wrote:Bluey, The poorest, sickest and oldest are already being hit the hardest by this despicable Government whilst they give themselves massive tax cuts, and unless we can get rid, untold further damage will befall them. My point is Blue that I think its time we take the bull by the horns and bring this Government down and the sooner we do that, the sooner we can heal the ills of those that need genuine help.

I think its better to suffer 1 years worth of suffering than to go on as the Tories will inflict suffering for God knows how long.

I fully agree with certain welfare reforms, and I don’t think its right that unemployment should reward people better than working. The difference between what this Government are doing and what I believe to be right and just, is not to punish the genuine people who through no fault of their own find themselves either too sick to work or there simply isn’t any work for them. But to make sure being employed gives rewards whereby people can live without going cap in hand for pension credits or any other benefit. The Tories have a major problem, and that is they are inherently lazy, they will not put the work in to come up with a fair solution, but come up with a one size fits all policy. With their one size fits all, the baby tends to get chucked out with the bath water. I know you will say that Labour could have done much more, and you will be right. The main difference is with the degree’s of unfairness, and I know from personal experience that the poor and the working man is a lot better off under a Labour Government and with Blair’s third way, the Country as a whole was better off (irrespective of what Ivanhoe may dream up). We desperately need to get Labour in power, then pressurise them to do what is necessary, because the Tories never will.

Great post bobby and you have pointed out all the relevant points that this Tory gov't are getting WRONG, and your right this shower of Dick Heads need to be brought down and the quicker the better its my hope that it happens sooner rather than later bobby otherwise the country will be in such a state it will need a team of GENIUS to sort out.

There are three lies which are above and beyond all others.

1. There's a cheque in the post.
2. No, of course I won't cØme in your mouth.
and Gideon Osborne when he says, "There isn't any money".

How bad is it, if one has fallen for all three ............today...?

I'm told there's a discount for naivety.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe wrote: When you moved to where you are, you wanted out, instead of staying put and helping in what is a class fight. You are a living example of everything wrong with the British.

What a nasty thing to say to possibly the most honest (albeit dilusional) poster on Cutting Edge

Aren’t you the geezer who said in a post to me, “I am a gentleman”. What a bleeding hypocrite. As to where Bluey lives and why he lives there is absolutely bugger all to do with you, anyway I think your post was personally insulting to Bluey and that you should beg his forgiveness immediately, or prepare to be treated in the same manner in which you have treated him.

Actually your quite right bobby, it was a disgusting thing to say, and I apologise forth with to bluey.

My actual point was that so many people have in general have left these shores re- migration to Europe and elsewhere since the 80's after helping to feck this country up wholesale.

oftenwrong wrote:There are three lies which are above and beyond all others.

1. There's a cheque in the post.
2. No, of course I won't cØme in your mouth.
and Gideon Osborne when he says, "There isn't any money".

What do you think of the lie "We are all in this Together" OW.

"What do you think of the lie "We are all in this Together" OW"

I take it to mean that we all have to reduce our consumption of caviare and slurping Champers at the Hunt Ball, Red. Oh, and sack a few footmen, to encourage the remainder.

oftenwrong wrote:"What do you think of the lie "We are all in this Together" OW"

I take it to mean that we all have to reduce our consumption of caviare and slurping Champers at the Hunt Ball, Red. Oh, and sack a few footmen, to encourage the remainder.

You got it in ONE OW

Let's look at a currently mooted TORY idea - ie. regional pay rates. Another bizarre and ridiculous notion.

Are supermarkets going to introduce different prices in different regions?
Are gas/electric companies going to charge different tariffs depending on your region?
Is the cost of buying a car, insurance, mot, petrol going to become cheaper in those regions?

What's up? Isn't enough money already spent on London vanity projects and the south? If anything more revenue should be taken from southern workers and the south, and be directed northwards and into the pockets of workers in poorer regions.

This is the tories doing what they do best.....being destructive, dividing the country/society, fragmenting the nation. The tories ARE velvet glove fascists and it is time we got rid of them and their treacherous kind - they are an odious stain on the true fabric of this country.

sickchip wrote:Let's look at a currently mooted TORY idea - ie. regional pay rates. Another bizarre and ridiculous notion.

Are supermarkets going to introduce different prices in different regions?
Are gas/electric companies going to charge different tariffs depending on your region?
Is the cost of buying a car, insurance, mot, petrol going to become cheaper in those regions?

What's up? Isn't enough money already spent on London vanity projects and the south? If anything more revenue should be taken from southern workers and the south, and be directed northwards and into the pockets of workers in poorer regions.

This is the tories doing what they do best.....being destructive, dividing the country/society, fragmenting the nation. The tories ARE velvet glove fascists and it is time we got rid of them and their treacherous kind - they are an odious stain on the true fabric of this country.

Well said sickchip and of course it has always been the same with Tory gov't, what I want to know remember the Poll tax riots where are those people that stood up the Maggot we need a bit of the same attitude to tell Scam..er..on and Osbourn go get your money off the B(W)ankers the ones that caused this bloody mess.

Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

""""Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes""

I never mentioned private landlords Redflag ???/

"Are supermarkets going to introduce different prices in different regions"

Old news, sickchip!

Residents in rural locations already pay a few pence more for every single item they buy in a village "convenience store" as compared with a Business Park superstore branch of the same company.

Locals who can afford it shrug their shoulders and pay willingly in the knowledge that it's USE IT OR LOSE IT!

Those who struggle to afford it are not included in current Government policy deliberations.

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

""""Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes""

I never mentioned private landlords Redflag ???/

I know you never mentioned private landlords but if you can not get a council house that forces people into the private sector, and as you know Scam..er..on will not give housing benefit for high priced private homes even though some are not worth the high rents being charged, so where does that leave people who can not get council housing or something they can afford in the private sector the local council has too put them in "B/B which cost more. I know Scam..er..on and his lot would not care if families where having to live on the streets because they are the nasty party living up to there name.

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

""""Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes""

I never mentioned private landlords Redflag ???/

I know you never mentioned private landlords but if you can not get a council house that forces people into the private sector, and as you know Scam..er..on will not give housing benefit for high priced private homes even though some are not worth the high rents being charged, so where does that leave people who can not get council housing or something they can afford in the private sector the local council has too put them in "B/B which cost more. I know Scam..er..on and his lot would not care if families where having to live on the streets because they are the nasty party living up to there name.

Redflag,

Did you not read what I wrote,

""As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy""

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

""""Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes""

I never mentioned private landlords Redflag ???/

I know you never mentioned private landlords but if you can not get a council house that forces people into the private sector, and as you know Scam..er..on will not give housing benefit for high priced private homes even though some are not worth the high rents being charged, so where does that leave people who can not get council housing or something they can afford in the private sector the local council has too put them in "B/B which cost more. I know Scam..er..on and his lot would not care if families where having to live on the streets because they are the nasty party living up to there name.

Redflag,

Did you not read what I wrote,

""As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy""

Yes I read your post properly, and as you know in every part of the UK there is NOT enough council housing to house every one that needs one what do people do then??

I've been saying for years, as have others, that money should be spent on building affordable council housing. I even wrote to labour mps when they were in government asking why a nationwide council house building project wasn't being undertaken. Nobody seemed interested. Although they seem happy to throw £billions at vanity projects like the Olympics, high speed rail, royalty, etc.

Talk about getting our priorities right as a nation. FFS.

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

boatlady wrote:Isn't the notion of regional pay supposed to address the fact that housing costs are higher in some areas than others? And might not the solution to that problem be to provide more subsidised social housing in areas where it's not possible for an ordinary working class person to buy?

No, regional pay is supposed to divide workers, pitting on against the other, it's all part of the Tory dream of basically dividing the nation and trying to keep power.

As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy.

Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes, then there would be no need for regional pay but I do agree with what you have said about the Tories trying to divide workers, just look what they done to the disabled they now are getting abused in the streets just because Scam..er..on ;has put it about they are SCROUNGERS. This should be Scam..er..on and his shower of dick heads

""""Or Ivanhoe get a bloody grip on the private fcuking landlords who are charging an arm and leg for rent for sub standard homes""

I never mentioned private landlords Redflag ???/

I know you never mentioned private landlords but if you can not get a council house that forces people into the private sector, and as you know Scam..er..on will not give housing benefit for high priced private homes even though some are not worth the high rents being charged, so where does that leave people who can not get council housing or something they can afford in the private sector the local council has too put them in "B/B which cost more. I know Scam..er..on and his lot would not care if families where having to live on the streets because they are the nasty party living up to there name.

Redflag,

Did you not read what I wrote,

""As far as council housing is concerned, there should be a universial council house building programme across Britain, because there will always be someone some where needing to rent because they cannot afford to buy""

Yes I read your post properly, and as you know in every part of the UK there is NOT enough council housing to house every one that needs one what do people do then??

Redflag, I think we are at cross purposes, so lets start again shall we!

sickchip wrote:I've been saying for years, as have others, that money should be spent on building affordable council housing. I even wrote to labour mps when they were in government asking why a nationwide council house building project wasn't being undertaken. Nobody seemed interested. Although they seem happy to throw £billions at vanity projects like the Olympics, high speed rail, royalty, etc.

Talk about getting our priorities right as a nation. FFS.

Bang on mate.

Ivanhoe.....Who will actually have the balls to undertake a this building programme (one which I agree with you on) and not just feed the electorate empty words and promises.

I think all electoral pledges should be made legally binding and if broken, a new snap election called immediately

blueturando wrote:Ivanhoe.....Who will actually have the balls to undertake a this building programme (one which I agree with you on) and not just feed the electorate empty words and promises.

I think all electoral pledges should be made legally binding and if broken, a new snap election called immediately

Briliiant, bluey, I could not agree more.

Err.... Has anyone noticed that the landscape in Ireland and in Spain is littered with part-built houses which will not be completed in the foreseeable future, and have almost bankrupted both nations.







http://www.propertyforsaleinspainblog.com/property-for-sale-in-spain/unfinished-villa-for-sale-alhaurin-el-grande

oftenwrong wrote:Err.... Has anyone noticed that the landscape in Ireland and in Spain is littered with part-built houses which will not be completed in the foreseeable future, and have almost bankrupted both nations.

I believe those are private property developments, ow.

I'm talking about revenue being used to facillitate a large scale social housing project. The expense would be paid back in time via reasonable/affordable rents. It may also reduce the housing benefit bill as we wouldn't be filling the pockets of greedy private landlords so much. It would also provide work for the construction trade.

OW ......They are private housing projects and no one can get a mortgage to buy them. Perhaps if the Irish government could do a deal with the banks who financed these projects to buy the houses at cost price and rent them out to people on the waiting list, before these houses either get vandalised or crumble away

sickchip wrote:

oftenwrong wrote:Err.... Has anyone noticed that the landscape in Ireland and in Spain is littered with part-built houses which will not be completed in the foreseeable future, and have almost bankrupted both nations.

I believe those are private property developments, ow.

I'm talking about revenue being used to facillitate a large scale social housing project. The expense would be paid back in time via reasonable/affordable rents. It may also reduce the housing benefit bill as we wouldn't be filling the pockets of greedy private landlords so much. It would also provide work for the construction trade.

Spot on sickchip

Yes indeed. Our country has a proud record of completing government projects on budget and on time.

There is said to be up to 160 billion pounds profit being held by successful major British companies waiting to see how the nation's finances will turn out. Some of that could profitably be invested in Housing, no doubt, but any outsider who has ever had business dealings with the Construction Industry knows that it resembles greyhound racing in the sense that any profits tend to stay in the business.

That leaves the financing of new-build to either HM Treasury or our wonderful Banks. Gideon tells us there is nothing in the till, and the Banks still won't lend to each other. But they're printing money at the B of E, so who knows?

A quarter of tory MP's are private landlords! Gawd, what a shocker! So they'll just carry on sticking their lousy snouts in the trough I'm guessing. Not building houses makes them money!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ad1a739c-0f1c-11e2-9343-00144feabdc0.html#axzz28imq5Ztn

I did a very good job of writing George's speech, it was almost verbatim.

I have no qualms about building affordable homes as long as they are limited in bedroom size and cannot be purchased.

If people want 6 kids and a 4 bedromm house then they must afford it themselves.

Tosh wrote:I did a very good job of writing George's speech, it was almost verbatim.

You're really not wired up right mate! If you thought there was anything decent about what he said then you need to go and have your bumps felt! And for some people it just isn't a joking matter!

Tosh wrote:I did a very good job of writing George's speech, it was almost verbatim.

It's not like you to be so pleased with yourself, Tosh.

Are you proud?

sickchip wrote:

Tosh wrote:I did a very good job of writing George's speech, it was almost verbatim.

It's not like you to be so pleased with yourself, Tosh.

Are you proud?

sickchip, Tosh talks a load of...................................

.....bullshite!

Adele Carlyon wrote:.....bullshite!

If i was a womani would have been more ladylike and said, Tosh talks a load of TOSH.

A great speech by Osbourn, well to the Thatcherites and party faithfull's maybe, i wouldn't like to take credit for that load of TOSH.

Tosh wrote:I have no qualms about building affordable homes as long as they are limited in bedroom size and cannot be purchased.

If people want 6 kids and a 4 bedromm house then they must afford it themselves.

Tosh, I swear you get a big kick out of coming across as a twat. I mean that.