Is David Cameron a moron from the outer reaches of the universe? (Part 1)

Adele Carlyon wrote:I've always thought that the press treated Brown shamefully. And bringing his sick child into it was an all time low!

Your quite right Adele have watched Gordon Brown at Leveson he done himself proud of course there is the usual suspects saying that he lied, and both of the Murdochs where telling the truth, if you did not watch Dispatches on channel 4 tonight go on line and watch it there is some true shockers, the BSKYB deal with the Murdochs and there entourage it was an eye opener to say the least.

I'm just watching it now RF. Laid out like this...how in hell can they stand there and say that they didn't plot to give Murdoch everything he wanted? They're so shameful!!! Grrrrrrr

Adele Carlyon wrote:I'm just watching it now RF. Laid out like this...how in hell can they stand there and say that they didn't plot to give Murdoch everything he wanted? They're so shameful!!! Grrrrrrr

I knew from the beginning that Scam..er..on would hand the rest of BSKYB over to the Murdochs, once the Sun went from a Red top to Blue top from that day I never bought a NI newspaper although my mum had put me off the N.O.W. at an early age she said it was the Whores Gazzette (forgive me Ivan).

But as you heard Ozzy denying it up too the hilt, they will never change my mind that was the pay off for supporting at the 2010 election and I wonder what they have promised the Daily Fail for there continuing support?.

[b]I want to say something good about our British Prime Minister.
Give me time to think of something?
Ahh yes this is what it is.
No matter what he does that we the peasents don't like or agree with.
He will never go down in history as the worst or most hated PM.
That is thanks to Mrs (should be burned at the stake) Thatcher.
Hope this does not upset my good friend Witchfinder who can see no wrong in the Tory's.
I should be burned at stake for that.
He might forgive me.

hello Whitby, sounds like the eurovision Thong contest!

Where IS witchfinder?

Set aside some time on Thursday if you can, for David Cameron's Confession before the Leveson Enquiry - mea culpa, mea maxima culpa - or perhaps, "nuffink to do wiv me, Guv. I only work here."

In the interests of balance, perhaps this thread should be removed - since the Tony Blair thread has been. Maybe get rid of the Thatcher thread too.

I'm sure cutting edge wouldn't wish to be accused of bias.

Nothing's been deleted. Try opening your eyes and checking your facts before making accusations. There are 17 boards here.


For the record, we are no more required to be impartial than the Murdoch press.

Ivan,

Where has it been moved to?

Ok - found it. Didn't think to check the History Channel. Cheers Ivan.

Ivan

For the record, we are no more required to be impartial than the Murdoch press.

I don't think Murdoch's so much partial - more like mercenary. His services are available to the highest bidder. He's the kind of bloke who'd probably sell his own son down ther river to save his own skin, or secure a deal to acquire BskyB.......waddya mean he's already done that!

Why do British newspaper-proprietors tend to live elsewhere? Just askin'

Why do British newspaper-proprietors tend to live elsewhere?

Just like any industry/industrialist!

They ALL want a slice of the GB CAKE, but a knees up on these islands is the LAST thing they would be seen at!

This country has been sold down the river, lock stock and barrel

Owners of British Companies should LIVE in the UK as their FIRST home

Do not call me a 'Little Englander' as I have been told often enough, I am a little Scots lovechild!! and nowt Cosmopolitan about me!

sickchip. I just wish that some of you would remember that there are 17 discussion boards on this forum (as well as some excellent blogs), and that 'UK Politics' is not necessarily the most appropriate place for a thread. 'Other Political Issues' and 'The History Channel' have some interesting topics - including both Blair and Thatcher now!

Ivan,

Point taken. I'll make sure to double check in future before jumping to conclusions.

Cameron has confronted Argentina's president over the Falklands the G20 summit in Mexico.

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner attempted to hand Mr Cameron a package marked "UN - Malvinas" but he refused to accept it ararently.

A Downing Street official later said: "President Kirchner didn't actually try to hand the Prime Minister any document.

Of course she did and the arrogant bastard just turned and walked away.
Is he trying to follow in the Witches footsteps? His diplomacy skills are non existant, in fact he is an embarrassment and danger to the safety of this country with his arrogant attitude towards other countries leaders.

Mel wrote:Cameron has confronted Argentina's president over the Falklands the G20 summit in Mexico.

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner attempted to hand Mr Cameron a package marked "UN - Malvinas" but he refused to accept it ararently.... the arrogant bastard just turned and walked away....

But not before remarking, "I suppose a phuque's out of the question then, Crissy?"

I dont think she fancied him for a quick one OW.

Why should he accept a letter addressed to an imaginary land known only to Argentina. The Falklands are having a referendum on who (if any) they wish to have an alliance next year.

Don't let your natural prejudices overwhelm your limited intelligence when you post melly?

Stop the goading Land. Makes you look stupid, GROW UP FOR GODS SAKE and everyone else sake here.

Back to normal melly, perhaps you could post (if not the truth) something you believe in rather than follow me around different threads whining. Lots of love, me

Land, perhaps you wish to be banned so as to make a martyr of yourself?

Mel, on another thread, it is land who is trying to calm the waters!

Not ALL the fragile egos are on the Government front bench, it seems.

Melly, did you really post that, or have you allowed your grandkids access to the computer. Ah the good old days when moderators (well, moderated) didn't use their position to force their own opinion on others. Yet strangely you wonder why I'm not a socialist when all around the forum signs of bullying (you wish) of others is rife. Is this what power does to people?

astra. "Mel, on another thread, it is land who is trying to calm the waters!"

Which thread astra? certainly not on this one.

Example Quote Land seven posts back here--"Don't let your natural prejudices overwhelm your limited intelligence when you post melly?"

Is that what you call "calming" the waters astra??

OW. There are few here that would consider the job of Moderator. Some were asked if they would care to engage themselves in the task, they refused, I wonder why? "ego's" perhaps?

Mel wrote:OW. There are few here that would consider the job of Moderator. Some were asked if they would care to engage themselves in the task, they refused, I wonder why? "ego's" perhaps?

I had thought of putting myself forward as Chief Moderator. My idea would be to re-organise the whole set-up. It would be a forum of pure debate. No swearing, abuse, violent disagreement, no long religious quoting (oops sorry Roc) and certainly no falling out.

On second thoughts it would also be ..er.. b........... boring.

Forget it. Carry on folks.

Just thought I would lighten the mood.

Ta trev.

The famous words from poet John Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln, appear in various permutations e.g:

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

oftenwrong wrote:The famous words from poet John Lydgate, later adapted by President Lincoln, appear in various permutations e.g:

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.

You may remember my friends I've mentioned before from the Alpha Centauri galaxy. One of them, SXXYLMLYTWS, nearest translation in our language, says it has been tried by a race on the outer reaches of the Milky Way. I believe the result of the experiment means there are only two of the race left. Oh. Hang on a minute, SXXYLMLYTWS is waving his fifth tentacle. That means they are now extinct.
And yes, I am mad

Famous words by me.

You can't please some of the people ANY of the time.

Give me the dog instead of some so called "humans"anytime.

"And yes, I am mad "

Whatever gives you a kick Trev, let it be. Your'e not "mad" just honest.

Which thread astra? certainly not on this one.

Please see - Where should the Labour Party position itself?

Thank's astra, I have viewed the thread posts and can't find much trace of "calming the waters" unless you missed this-- "comes from divvies and simply and goes over my head" "Divvies"? very calming indeed.

The title of this thread is based on our opinion of DC from the left hand wing of politics.

I have no problem with DC's political opinion, that austerity is the answer, if it is genuinely held by himself.

The problem I have is that it is fairly obvious that the policy is not working, and he cannot recognise, or refuses to recognise, that fact.

I think France recognises that fact. The Greeks have selected austerity, but it seems they too, while recognising their debts, are going to seek help to extend their indebtedness period to allow for industrial growth and financial balance improvement. The US has recognised the fact. (Perhaps this is one time we won't follow the USA).

The inability to recognise we need growth, and promptly, is the problem as far as I am concerned.

On the other hand he has recently been on a Trade Mission to the East, so he must recognise the need. Why the reticence to change policies, after all, we have had quite a few U turns.

DC is an intelligent man, but perhaps his upbringing and wealth are
barriers to understanding 'real' economics.

There has been some whispers of investing in infrastructure. Perhaps things will improve, but it will take a climb down.

My knowledge of economics is based on this principle. If I don't keep money in my pocket too long, it will not burn a hole, and save money on replacing trousers.

But then, what do I know.

Trevor. I can see where you are coming from regarding Cameron. With the very greatest of respect you are one of many who fall into his trap of Cameron's that "austerity" is the answer to clearing the so called "deficit" and repair job for the economy.
First and foremost Tory policy has always been to cut, sell off and create unemployment. Austerity is a means for Tory ideology to reverse labour's measures which favour the poorest. weakest, the young, the sick and the elderly and a free for all NHS.

Cameron and Co favour only the minority group, the rich. Every existing policy that is either in place for for assisting the employee, the student, the vulnerable and the unemployed is being squashed.
The reasons for all these austerity measures are not only designed to cut the deficit. They are over the top and too severe and too quickly implemted. The truth is they are designed to firstly make way for tax cuts for the rich with a pitance of tax relief thrown in for some of "the lower order" and secondly to put the working man in a desperation situation whereby the employers are able to do just as they wish regarding wages and working conditions.
There is no interest in growth whatsoever. Government borrowing is cheap and therefore building our infrastructure is the way to growth. It will not happen in this parliament as Cameron and Co are railroading their policies through before they are booted out of office.

Mel.

My point was that DC is clearly within his rights to believe as he does. I do not criticise anyone for clearly held beliefs. I do question, however, the right to inflict on others those beliefs which are clearly wrong, in my opinion, as in this case.

He clearly sees the need for growth - his Trade Mission to the East. But he is just as clearly stuck in the austerity rut.

I think the rest of my post indicates I do not agree with his policies, just his right to have his opinion
I have actually posted my opposition to DC's attitudes/policies before.

My quote regarding 'infrastructure whisperings' comes from the BBC News a few days ago indicating some possible Government movement in that direction. Another possible U turn. Maybe, just maybe, proof that miracles can occur.

By the way, I remember the days of M.T. too well. And MT is not for Mother Theresa, bless her.

The Prime Minister promised to welcome anyone looking to escape a 75 per cent top rate of tax, which is set to be introduced by France’s new socialist president Francois Hollande.

This week Mr Cameron told a business summit in Mexico: ‘If the French go ahead with a 75 per cent top rate of tax we will roll out the red carpet and welcome more French businesses to Britain.

The arrogance of the dangerous and agressive nasty individual is second to none. The French Ministers say that he was drunk at the time, which points to his leaving his child behind a few days ago.

One day he pretends he is against offshore tax havens and the next day he is attempting to make the UK one. He want's shooting!!!


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There's an inescapable logic about attracting French business to Britain, as they're here already in numbers. SouthWest Trains is a French-owned company as are Gas and Electricity suppliers here. Profits from Beefeater Gin and Teachers Whisky go into French pockets, and The Body Shop is in French ownership.

London Estate Agents at the sharp end of the business are already having to brush-up their schoolboy languages in order to accommodate increasing numbers of wealthy French people buying property as a hedge against Eurozone problems.

It's an ill wind .........

OW QUOTE It's an ill wind .........

Bought on by eating Spanish onions?

It is becoming more and more obvious that the UK is no longer the UK. We are becoming a target for foreign companies. Eventually UK businesses and utilities will be parcelled out and we will be left with the parts no other country wants.

2 wars for freedom, 2 decades to slip back into 'slavery'.


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