Are Cameron and Osborne's days numbered?

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We seem to have had a thread about Milliband and time running out for his leadership but now there seem to be more and more knives coming out for Vatman and Dobbing, I'll let you decide who is who?

It now seems more and more of their own side (Tory MP's) are openly speaking out against them........

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Nadine Dorries: David Cameron And George Osborne Are 'Arrogant Posh Boys'


David Cameron and George Osborne are "arrogant posh boys" who do not understand the lives of ordinary people, according to Tory MP Nadine Dorries.

Speaking on the BBC's Daily Politics programme on Monday, the MP for Mid-Bedfordshire was asked if she thought the prime minister and chancellor were out of touch with voters.

"Unfortunately I think that not are only Cameron and Osborne two posh boys who don't understand the price of milk," she said. "They are too arrogant posh boys who show no remorse, no contrition and no passion to want to understand the lives of others - and that is their real crime."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/23/nadine-dorries-david-cameron-posh-boys_n_1445068.html?ref=uk-politics&ref=uk

He wouldn't have even dared to try to...my colours have been very firmly nailed to the mast since I was 16!

Oftenwrong, the constant drip drip of scandal coupled with a pervading sense of realisation that they have been doing the same for decades , makes me uneasy and also never more alive than now . I condone direct action by the UK people , I have often thought what the scenario would in reality be like with the populous rising up and saying enough with the BullS*iT political classes , the fact that people can educate themselves via the net 24 / 7 has to be having a seismic effect
on joe public , and the government damn well know this , they will soon be having COBRA meetings about the public dissatisfaction, to hear Noel Gallagher ex [Oasis ] for the uninformed, state that he has a computer and thinks the net is boring , goes to show how backward he still is . John Lennon would have been shoutng from the rooftops to educate oneself , not dear Noel .

Apathy is the real problem in the UK , more need to wake up.........period.

Right I'm off to bed ha ha ha .

Mr Gallagher has forgotten where he came from now that he's mixing it with the primrose hill set! John Lennon would be very disappointed in him!

And yes, wake up people! We need you all to get involved in making our counrty great and fair again!

"Apathy is the real problem in the UK , more need to wake up.........period."

The British public are well known for it Scarecrow. They go about their business without a care in the world for anyone but themselves. Thatcher's doctrine you know.
They take no interest in politics and either vote on half digested Tory propaganda and Tory press distortion of the truth, or they cant be bothered to vote at all. Then when it's too late they squeal like pigs having done the wrong thing for themselves and everyone else except of course the wealthy. Silly buggers have not learned from the days of the cloth cap and downstairs service.

Talking of "masts" Adele, mine has an enormous Union Jack fitted. I'm waiting eagerly to hoist it high on my roof when the Witch finally and hopefully goes to hell. Bronze statue indeed!!!!!!!

Good ere enit??????

It's good ere! Yes indeed! It's so nice to have people to talk to about things I feel passionately about. I miss the people who used to come around here before me and my husband split up. We used to sit for hours talking about our mutual hatred of thatcher and our belief in a fairer society. Now I have lovely people to chat to and I'm very glad I may add!

The mythical Gorgon had snakes instead of hair, but slicing one off merely caused another to appear, and the modern Tory Party is similarly organised.
During its thirteen years in the wilderness after Major, there were no less than three other Leaders before deciding on Cameron in 2005. Clearly it will not trouble many people if he has to be replaced with a similar smooth-faced public school product. Gideon must consider himself to be a front-runner, but Boris would make himself available, as would have the Cultural Secretary up until a few days ago. There are in addition a couple of Tory MEPs willing to sacrifice everything for The Party.

So even in a post-Cameron era, not much would change this side of a General Election.

Whilst sympathising with some of the left leaners on here. Be honest do you believe that the party that caused the problems has changed enough to be allowed the opportunity to cause yet more havoc?

I think the focus needs especially to be on the party that assured us that it could solve the problems it knew it faced. There were no suggestions from them that it could not be achieved when Cameron so confidently sought office . Time has shown, however, that he and his grubby band of shifty chancers were just a bunch of cynical opportunists who wanted to grab power at any price and with any lie being suitable for the purpose...

Agree totally Phil.personally I think they should have gone with a minority government. Only 3 more years to go.

tlttf said Agree totally Phil.personally I think they should have gone with a minority government. Only 3 more years to go.

Hello Landy. Then we would have seen Clegg and his herd in total agreement with Labour

Adele Carlyon wrote:It's good ere! Yes indeed! It's so nice to have people to talk to about things I feel passionately about. I miss the people who used to come around here before me and my husband split up. We used to sit for hours talking about our mutual hatred of thatcher and our belief in a fairer society. Now I have lovely people to chat to and I'm very glad I may add!

I feel its great to have you on here, its also great to have another female too. not that i would of called Maggot thatcher one of us ha ha ha always remind me of a Tory man in drag. still nothing wrong with that for a Tory man Adele ha ha ha ha

Red Cat Woman wrote:

Adele Carlyon wrote:It's good ere! Yes indeed! It's so nice to have people to talk to about things I feel passionately about. I miss the people who used to come around here before me and my husband split up. We used to sit for hours talking about our mutual hatred of thatcher and our belief in a fairer society. Now I have lovely people to chat to and I'm very glad I may add!

I feel its great to have you on here, its also great to have another female too. not that i would of called Maggot thatcher one of us ha ha ha always remind me of a Tory man in drag. still nothing wrong with that for a Tory man Adele ha ha ha ha

Do not worry RCW not every man is a nasty piece of work, do not let some one like Scam..er..on put you off just look at Ed Miliband or Ed Balls after two years he has been proved right with his ideas on the economy and Gideons crap A Plan is all wrong.

I don't watch much TV as I 'm always working , I adore Channel 4 News for it's unbiased reporting , I also watch RT Russia Today for it's news , will check Sky to laugh at it's biased reporting, RT is channel 85 via Freeveiw , have learned loads from that channel. The coverage regarding Syria was outstanding .
http://rt.com/programs/alyona-show/
http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/
http://rt.com/programs/capital-account/
http://rt.com/
Anyway the reason I talk telly is because as we all know the soaps on BBC and ITV
etc are a form of escape , this I understand , no problem with that , just as alcohol
also , I originate from the North of England , now live in the Midlands but still cannot stomach Newcastle Broon ha ha vile stuff , still tell that to the magnificent shipbuilders of yesteryear in the region who drank it .
Anyway .....soaps , the only one that had me glued was Brookside , it dealt with the social issues of the time , with story lines that were well written by script writers who's fingers were on the public pulse of 80s Thatchers Britain , now I fully understand that political narratives in say Emmerdale is not SEXY he he and Eastenders is total panto , having worked in the east end years ago , once they accept you .......many months ha ha they are the salt of the earth , my point being I know how soaps have a cathartic soothing effect after a day at work , well not me but , I used to observe an ex girlfriend loose herself in the fictional narrative
as if it were real , this amused me no end he he, but the point being soaps do not reflect reality, yet thousands are transfixed daily by episodes , stop them in the street and show them a photo of a government poster boy /girl and they are non plussed , this has always been the case , but this is my point on the good people of the UK , they are putty in the governments hands , granted some people are so sharp they cut themselves ha ha but a vast demigraph seem not to care , this is so disturbing , I understand you cannot force people to educate themselves , but geez if I were a government psychologist , half the work is done via mind numbing escapism for the masses. RANT OVER thank you.

Red Cat Woman wrote:

Adele Carlyon wrote:It's good ere! Yes indeed! It's so nice to have people to talk to about things I feel passionately about. I miss the people who used to come around here before me and my husband split up. We used to sit for hours talking about our mutual hatred of thatcher and our belief in a fairer society. Now I have lovely people to chat to and I'm very glad I may add!

I feel its great to have you on here, its also great to have another female too. not that i would of called Maggot thatcher one of us ha ha ha always remind me of a Tory man in drag. still nothing wrong with that for a Tory man Adele ha ha ha ha

Thanks Hun! Thanks for being so welcoming, that goes for all of you! Well, nearly all of you!

Interesting plot line in Eastenders recently concerns a young single mother struggling to make ends meet in these 'hard times'.......she ends up committing a crime and is arrested.

I think it is an attempt by the producers/writers to make a point about the tory governments policies and the perilous predicament those policies can place people in.

That's what I think too! In earlier episodes she is seen ringing up those pay day loan companies.

Oh well , that's me shot down ha ha , must watch more telly , memo to self.

Adele Carlyon wrote:That's what I think too! In earlier episodes she is seen ringing up those pay day loan companies.

Adele,

The loan sharks are having a field day feeding off the bloodied and drowning. Cash 'til payday loans etc are all on the rise - a lot of people are really struggling. There appears to be an abundance of these dodgy loan companies around at the moment - what happened to the motion to regulate and outlaw these leeches?

Yes , dodgy loans : I once lent a chap £50 until his payday and then discovered his job was a Coronation Souvenir Seller...

Scarecrow wrote:Oh well , that's me shot down ha ha , must watch more telly , memo to self.

hahahaha Poor Scarecrow!

"Whilst sympathising with some of the left leaners on here."

"Agree totally Phil."


Good God tlttf have you had a very needed brain transplant?

Bobby Quote "Labour are planning to oust him at the next election, but Herr Cameron is working even harder to oust himself and he is happy doing so, He became PM for a reason and that reason was to complete what Thatcher started, once that’s done he will get back to living his millionaire lifestyle without even a backward glance at those he left behind with nothing.

We can not allow him to complete his 5 year term, but must get rid as soon as is possible, Three years time will be much too late.

I could not agree with you more bobby. A vote of no confidence will be the only answer IMO.

Scarecrow "I adore Channel 4 News for it's unbiased reporting"

Me too totally agree my friend.

Mel wrote:We can not allow him to complete his 5 year term, but must get rid as soon as is possible, Three years time will be much too late.

....over to the inappropriately named Lib-Dems. They could stop this shambolic period of government at any point, and perhaps, just perhaps, save some face with the electorate and save themselves from becoming politically extinct.

The more they continue playing the Tories stooge, the more stupid they seem; and the more loathsome they become.

Mel , will have to chat later I have a DVD box set of 40 years of Coronation Street to plough through , Like learning Japanese , but hey I'm drinking pint mugs of coffee , through the night , I've just been introduced to one Ena Sharples and what's with the cobbles ha ha . Ken Barlow seems not to age after fast forwarding the bloody DVD , botox through the decades , this is all new to me , the medium of anything but news on the telly he he .

John Snow is a star in fact with his integrity he should be in politics , but he knows how nefarious it all is , stay as anchor John, or the news will slip it's moorings and drift.

Scarecrow, old Roache Ken is amazing for his age. Has had a 1000 women so he says. He's a staunch bloody Tory though, that's put me right off him.

Mel wrote:Scarecrow, old Roache Ken is amazing for his age. Has had a 1000 women so he says. He's a staunch bloody Tory though, that's put me right off him.

I think Mel thats enough to put anybody off men and Tories.

Labours new election broadcast.

I am always careful at making rash predictions or assumptions, but I am now begining to think that David Camerons days could very well be numbered, and I am absolutely certain that Nick Clegg s days are definately numbered.

Confidence in a particular leader, political party or government gets slowly eroded, chipped away at bit by bit, and recently there has certainly been an awful lot of chipping away at this government.

Very poor economic performance turning into recession, a terrible budget including the so called "pasty tax" and "granny tax", record high petrol prices, utility companies and train companies raising prices way above inflation whilst millions face pay freezes or cuts.

The NHS reforms, every single professional medical organisation voicing concerns, rising waiting lists and waiting times in hospitals after years of falling.

And now the various scandals concerning Rupert Murdoch, News of the World, phone tapping and David Camerons known and unknown connections to employees and former employees of News International.
The scandal surrounding Murdochs bid to buy a majority shareholding of BSkyB and Jeremy Hunt.

And when the general public see news items in the Daily Splodge or on the Tinternet about how the richest are getting richer whilst Joe Ordinary is been sacked, been made redundant or enduring a pay cut, then doubt turns to bitterness and anger.

If after two years in office, there was even a slight improvement in the economy, then fair enough, but things are actualy much worse.

A trip down Memory Lane, anyone?

Back to Basics, a government policy slogan portrayed by opponents and the press as a morality campaign to compare it with a contemporaneous succession of sex scandals in John Major's government which led to the resignation of Tim Yeo and the Earl of Caithness, among others (1994)
Cash-for-questions affair involving Neil Hamilton, Tim Smith and Mohamed Al-Fayed (1994)
Jonathan Aitken and the hotel bill allegations, and subsequent conviction for perjury after his failed libel action against The Guardian, resulting in Aitken being only the third person to have to resign from the Privy Council in the 20th century. (1995)

Thank Heaven we're beyond all that now.

Back to Basics...a most splendid Billy Bragg album!

I think labour really need to start shouting Tory Sleaze a lot more!

Adele Carlyon wrote:Back to Basics...a most splendid Billy Bragg album!

I think labour really need to start shouting Tory Sleaze a lot more!

I think your right and they also need to shout louder, and do not let the voters forget about ALL the Tory sleaze.

Hear Hear!

Voters Urged By David Cameron Not To Punish Government In Elections

David Cameron has appealed for voters in tomorrow's crunch elections not to punish the Tories for Britain's economic woes.

The prime minister urged people to focus on local rather than national issues in the wake of a turbulent spell for the coalition.

As parties mounted a final push before the polls open, Ed Miliband promised that Labour would "stand up for the many" rather than the "rich and powerful".

Meanwhile, Nick Clegg said every Liberal Democrat councillor elected was a "step towards a more liberal country".

Speaking to ITV News in the garden of 10 Downing Street, Cameron said: "I recognise it's a difficult time for families, it's a tough time for families," he said.

"I just hope that people will look at these elections and recognise it's about electing your local council - who is going to keep the council tax down, who's going to provide value for money, who's going to look after your area?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/02/voters-urged-by-david-local-elections_n_1470516.html?ref=uk

Well it seems Dave is finally coming round to seeing that his days as PM and Leader of the Tories are nearly up......

Priceless pearls of pure politician-speak....

Speaking to ITV News in the garden of 10 Downing Street, Cameron said: "I recognise it's a difficult time for families, it's a tough time for families," he said.

"I just hope that people will look at these elections and recognise it's about electing your local council - who is going to keep the council tax down, who's going to provide value for money, who's going to look after your area?"

The amount we pay to the local council is in direct proportion to the "precept" which a council receives from Central Government. If government reduces the share of general taxation which is passed down the chain, the difference has to be made-up locally.

Who indeed is going to look after your area? Not Cameron/Clegg/Osborne.

Not all Tories believe Cameron's present course is sustainable. On Friday afternoon a former junior member of the government, Stuart Jackson, told BBC Radio 4: "He’s on notice, he does need to raise his game and focus on bread and butter issues like jobs and mortgages."

Tory MP Douglas Carswell, who doesn't enjoy the best of relationships with David Cameron, told HuffPost on Friday morning:

"These results show why we need to deliver the EU referendum we promised when in opposition. UKIP cost us a number of seats in council elections. If repeated in a General Election, this will mean us losing dozens of seats and make an overall majority less likely. More 'wind turbine Toryism' is not the answer."

And it seems that those Tories who are on the right of the party are keen to stick their oar in. Mark Pritchard - who is stepping down as secretary of the backbench 1922 committee - told us : "This should be a wake-up call for all those who think diluting orthodox conservatism will bring electoral success."

The complaints are not restricted to the back benches. Reflecting on the results on Friday morning, Tory defence minister George Howarth suggested the losses could be down to plans to introduce gay marriage.

“There are issues, for example, like the proposals for gay marriage," he said.

“A lot of Conservatives have written to me saying ‘I am a lifelong Conservative, there is no mandate for this, why is this being proceeded with?’.

All from http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/04/2012-local-elections-tories-cameron-change-course-coalition_n_1476928.html?ref=uk


It seems they are starting to queue up with the knives so Dave better find someone to watch his back............Mark Antony where are you when Dave needs you?

Adele Carlyon wrote:Back to Basics...a most splendid Billy Bragg album!

I think labour really need to start shouting Tory Sleaze a lot more!

We sure do Hun x