Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes?

by oftenwrong Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:56 pm

First topic message reminder :

Depressing, isn't it? All the miserable gits can come up with is oppression of the poor and fear of the disadvantaged. Never mind, here's something that can make us all feel better about the human race - even if it does have to include Cameron and Company .........

http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity

by oftenwrong Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:03 pm

Speaking of PMQs, today encapsulated everything that is faulty with the existing political system in Britain. A fierce debate over whether to have a debate.

Which is apparently the fault of the SNP, or Michael Grade, though possibly also a Top Gear Presenter due to the mess inherited from a previous labour government five years ago, and Michael Gove shouting continuously throughout so-called Prime Minister's question time in The Mother of Parliaments.

Mother......s

by Redflag Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:41 pm

The Tories are SHIT scared of Ed Miliband because they know deep down they will not win this general election and they also know that Ed would wipe the floor with Davy boy if he evers gets the bottle to face Ed in a head to head debate OW deadhorse

by **Ivan** Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:10 pm

Cameron's warning on Labour's £3,000 'tax rise' is shot down by IFS

Respected think-tank issues devastating critique of Conservative claims about tax rises for ‘every working household’ under an Ed Miliband government.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/30/camerons-warning-on-labours-3000-tax-rise-is-shot-down-by-ifs

I found this gem by someone called Richard Farrell-Adams in the comments under the article:-

“I’ve always loved my country. Its quirky nature, coupled with its compassion and heart. Its willingness to stand up to hatred, prejudice and tyranny, sometimes alone. And its belief that helping those who fall on hard times should be coupled with compassion. Its inherent belief in hard work, but with fair pay and fair conditions. Its welcoming nature. Its ability to laugh at itself.

All this is disappearing under Cameron’s elite public school government. Profit for the rich, persecution of the poor and sick, cynical racial profiling to pander to right-wing anti-immigrant sentiment. And rewarding the rich elite by taking from the least able to pay. Then avoiding public scrutiny by simply refusing to be questioned in open and fair debate, instead setting up biased 'interviews' with supporters and ex-Eton chums supposedly being impartial. Cameron is trying to turn us into selfish, insular, hateful people, who care only about ourselves. We mustn’t let him.”

by Redflag Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:08 pm

IVAN whatever the Tories are paying Lynton Crosby its too much all he does all day is sit around and think of smears for Ed & the Labour party some great election strategist I do not think.

by **Ivan** Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:47 am

Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes? - Page 12 CCIh-ulW0AAdqw5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCIh-ulW0AAdqw5.jpg

by **Phil Hornby** Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:00 am

Is that panic I smell in the air...?

by boatlady Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:55 am

Oh, I do hope so

by oftenwrong Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:19 pm

I particularly enjoyed the bit where Labour and the SNP were described as "back-room plotting to seize possession of Number 10."

As opposed to what happened after the last election when a couple of gentlemen simply agreed to coalesce.

by stuart torr Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:12 pm

Well those two gentlemen if you can call them that will be looking for new homes very soon we hope will they not OW?

by **Ivan** Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:05 pm

How much lower can the Tories stoop? Twisted Evil

Campden Hill Conservatives stroke poster: Sick Twitter account compares Ed Miliband to brain damage victim

Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes? - Page 12 MAIN-Sick-Tories-compare-Ed-Miliband-to-stroke-victim

Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes? - Page 12 MAIN-Sick-Tories-compare-Ed-Miliband-to-stroke-victim

Details here:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/campden-hill-conservatives-stroke-poster-5565121

by stuart torr Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:23 pm

I think that is the lowest they have ever stooped in all of their campaigns Ivan, even when Maggie was in power they did not stoop that low did they.
Bloody disgusting. thumbsdown

by **Ivan** Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:08 pm

by boatlady Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:01 pm

Looking at that shameful poster of Ed Millband, I'm reminded of the 'devil eyes' poster of Tony Blair the Tories were putting up in 1997 - that worked out well for them, didn't it?

Trouble is, that kind of nastiness does put people off - you'd think they'd have learned by now

by Redflag Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:38 pm

Boatlady the Tories will never learn because they have not got two brain cells to rub together to cause a spark, but it does show how NASTY the Tories really are the true face of Toryism.

by **Phil Hornby** Mon May 04, 2015 2:32 pm

Tory Central Office : Approved List of Royal Baby's Names

The following list appears in order of preference :

Margaret
Margaret
Margaret
Margaret
Davida
Samantha
Electa
Margaret
Margaret
Katie ( late entry by order of Mr Murdoch)

and depending upon 'events' on Thursday...

Borisette
Nickola ( but NOT Nicola)
Nigella

( nb definitely out is any combination of Norma and Edwina since major problems may ensue...)

by stuart torr Mon May 04, 2015 3:12 pm

How about Phillipa. Laughing

by oftenwrong Fri May 08, 2015 12:08 pm

Well, yes. (Although sometimes a little close for comfort.)

General Election 2015 - Results for Wirral West

Declared for Margaret Greenwood - Labour

Majority: 417 (1.00%)
Change: +4.07%
Electorate: 55377
Turnout: 41858 (75.59%)

Margaret Greenwood
Labour ................... 18898 votes (45.15%)

Esther McVey
Conservative ............18481 votes (44.15%)

by Penderyn Fri May 08, 2015 1:24 pm

Pessimism of the intelligence, optimism of the will - and courage, courage, courage! Venceremos!

by boatlady Fri May 08, 2015 2:01 pm

Quite a close thing in Wirral - I expect it was Red convinced those 400 or so voters that swung it

by **Ivan** Fri May 08, 2015 4:21 pm

Cameron's victory speech in full..... Twisted Evil

Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes? - Page 12 CEeviafWoAALW7h

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEeviafWoAALW7h.jpg

by bobby Fri May 08, 2015 4:49 pm

Now would be a good time to take action against this poxed up load of pond life. But the majority of the public have shown they don't have the prerequisite sense or courage.

by oftenwrong Fri May 08, 2015 5:51 pm

Penderyn wrote:Pessimism of the intelligence, optimism of the will - and courage, courage, courage! Venceremos!

by boatlady Fri May 08, 2015 7:03 pm

But the majority of the public have shown they don't have the prerequisite sense or courage.

You do, though, Bobby, and Oftenwrong does, and Ivan does and all the rest of us do - I've always believed in changing the world one act of rationality and/or kindness at a time - the job just got a bit bigger

by **astradt1** Sat May 09, 2015 11:18 pm

The Nasty Party are back in power and some couldn't wait even for an hour after being elected to start to show their real face....

Conservative MP Stewart Jackson Booed During Victory Speech In Peterborough After General Election 2015

Stewart Jackson, now Conservative MP for Peterborough, had nothing good to say about his Labour rivals in his victory speech after Thursday's General Election.

He described them as "intellectually barren" and "useless, backward-looking losers”, as well accusing them of trying to buy the seat with union money.

Jackson also said: "I have fought a positive campaign and what is sad about the Labour Party is their negative, churlish, and mean-spirited campaign in this city.

“I’ll tell you what they are - they are three-time losers.”

He added: "Learn some humility. You've had a kicking tonight. There's plenty more to come."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/09/conservative-mp-stewart-jackson-booed-speech-peterborough-general-election-2015_n_7247414.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Full results:

Stewart Jackson (Conservative Party) - 18,684 -0.7%

Lisa Forbes (Labour Party) - 16,759 +6.1%

Mary Herdman (UKIP) - 7,485 +9.1%

Darren Fower (Liberal Democrat) - 1,774 -15.9%

Darren Bisby-Boyd (Green Party) - 1,218 +1.4%

Chris Ash (Liberal Party) - 639

John Fox (Independent) - 516

Turnout - 65.15%

by stuart torr Sun May 10, 2015 3:12 am

Just goes to show what we have in store for the next five years does it not Astradt, only hope it goes extremely quick.

by boatlady Sun May 10, 2015 9:27 am

The Nasty Party are back in power and some couldn't wait even for an hour after being elected to start to show their real face....

Sort of hope those taunts come back to haunt him in the future - I know in GY the Labour party fought a positive campaign and I'm sure they did all over the country - however, maybe all those convinced doorstep and phone canvassers weren't making enough noise to drown out the unremitting Tory smears

by **Ivan** Sun May 10, 2015 11:59 pm

This gem has been spotted outside a shop in Lewes, East Sussex:-

Is there any alternative to the jaundiced Tory attitudes? - Page 12 CEmFYLTWMAAMKBB

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEmFYLTWMAAMKBB.jpg

by **astradt1** Mon May 11, 2015 12:20 am

The 'Caring' side of the 'One Nation Conservatives' continues to show it's self......................

'DON'T BE A BAD LOSER'
Tory MP Dismisses Constituent's Homelessness Concerns With Callous Tweet

A recently re-elected Tory MP has dismissed a constituent concerned about homelessness by calling her a "bad loser".

Lynda
Homelessness is up 700% in #RdgUK during previous coalition. Wonder what the #Conservative cuts will do to address this @RobWilson_RDG?

Rob Wilson ✔@RobWilson_RDG
don't be a bad loser.
10:45 AM - 8 May 2015

Rob Wilson, MP for Reading East made the remark on the same day it became clear the Conservatives had won a majority in the General Election.

The tweet quickly circulated on social media with people voicing their disgust at the response.

Lynda
@RobWilson_RDG I'm disgusted. I ask valid questions & u claim I'm a bad loser. Will remind u I'm also a constituent. Answer the questions!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/10/rob-wilson-tory-homelessness_n_7252214.html?1431282584&utm_hp_ref=uk

by boatlady Mon May 11, 2015 8:28 am

Brilliant gesture by the guy in East Sussex - won't do his business any harm either

by ghost whistler Mon May 11, 2015 9:12 am

Ivan wrote:This gem has been spotted outside a shop in Lewes, East Sussex:-

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEmFYLTWMAAMKBB.jpg

He took a risk doing that (or she). Who's the local MP?

by **Ivan** Mon May 11, 2015 9:19 am

I would assume that Matt is a 'he'.

Maria Caulfield (Tory) has just gained the seat from Norman Baker (Lib Dem) by a majority of 1,083.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000786

by Redflag Mon May 11, 2015 9:43 am

Good on Matt for telling the whole truth not the Tory version of the truth, I hope you are are all ready for the REVELUTION because it will come and it will be down to the Tory NASTY CUTS to come.

by stuart torr Mon May 11, 2015 10:51 am

They are coming to me Redflag, if I do not fight against them, and fight I will.

by Redflag Mon May 11, 2015 5:54 pm

There is people out there that have had the fight knocked out of them stuart, but when the cuts are announced you may get get a shock when the people that voted Tory find out how much the Tories have LIED to them.

by stuart torr Mon May 11, 2015 6:16 pm

I wonder what they will think then Redflag? they will wonder why they did it I expect.

by **Ivan** Mon May 11, 2015 7:53 pm

Redflag. There won’t be a revolution, such things just aren't British! On the only occasions when we’ve had anything close to revolutions – in the 1640s and 1688 – they were just power struggles within the elite who ran the country. A number of European countries managed revolutions in 1848, but all we could muster was a Chartist demonstration and riots in London and Glasgow. You told us two years ago that there would be civil unrest after another round of spending cuts, but did it happen?

Anyway, would you really want a revolution? A lot of innocent people get hurt, just as they do from Tory policies, but two wrongs don’t make a right. Meaningful change has to come with the consent of the majority, not brute force after losing an election. Most of us (not you, you’ve done more than your share) need to redouble our efforts to convince people that what this evil government is doing is totally unacceptable in a decent society.

Judging from the so-called ‘Arab Spring’, I don’t think that revolutions often improve matters and may just result in the sort of perpetual chaos and anarchy that allows the likes of ISIS and al-Shabab to thrive. And there’s another angle. As Simon Wood has written: “Revolutions in the traditional mould are doomed to fail because even a completely new group of people in power will always be constrained by external entities of control like powerful nation states, the IMF and the World Bank. If a nation is in debt, the new rulers will remain subordinate to the global financial system at the expense of the welfare of their own citizens.”

https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t955-you-say-you-want-a-revolution

by stuart torr Mon May 11, 2015 9:30 pm

Well Ivan I have been waiting for someone to reply to you but alas they have not,so it is little old me. The above post is basically a shortened version of the original is it not, which was a very very good post. It explains quite clearly why revolutions especially in major western countries just do not happen.
If things get bigger than large riots here in England especially the capital,then even the armed police are out,or larger then the army are only a phone call away are they not? if there was a revolution at this particular time, and this government were overthrown,who would actually take there place? as Labour have no leader do they? hopefully they will not rush choosing either even though a lot of press are trying to get them to.

by **Ivan** Tue May 19, 2015 8:48 pm

Over 11 million turkeys voted for Christmas on 7 May..........

The 23 most terrifying things in the Tory manifesto:-

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/23-most-terrifying-things-tory-manifesto

by Redflag Tue May 19, 2015 9:47 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Well, yes. (Although sometimes a little close for comfort.)

General Election 2015 - Results for Wirral West

Declared for Margaret Greenwood - Labour

Majority: 417 (1.00%)
Change: +4.07%
Electorate: 55377
Turnout: 41858 (75.59%)

Margaret Greenwood
Labour ................... 18898 votes (45.15%)

Esther McVey
Conservative ............18481 votes (44.15%)

This is the one scalp that I helped my other two Hallam Sheffield Oliver Coppard came second only because Davy boy told all tory voters to vote for Clegg to keep the Labour party out, OW dio you happen to know the results for Carlisle Lee Sherriff was the Labour candidate would be gratefull if you could find out thank you.

by **Ivan** Tue May 19, 2015 9:59 pm

Lee Sherriff lost by 2,774 votes in Carlisle.

You can find all the general election results here:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies

But please let's stick to "jaundiced Tory attitudes" on this thread. Smile

by Redflag Wed May 20, 2015 2:00 pm

boatlady wrote:Quite a close thing in Wirral - I expect it was Red convinced those 400 or so voters that swung it

I hope what you have said is true boatlady, but just knowing my little bit helped Margaret Greenwood win her seart I will be a happy bunny, I intend to watch her get sworn into the HOC at one point this week.

Before I left each of my travels I did tell them I would be watching the results show on the 7th May would also be watching them get sworn in to HOC.

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