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Post by Redflag on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:44 am


Before May 2010 Cameron said that the N.H.S "is safe in my hands."  No it's not because he is a tory! These plans had been drawn long before he came into power he knew that he would hive off a chunk of our N.H.S to the private sector.   After the voting public turf him and his cohorts out in 2015 or earlier...      IS THERE A DIRECTORS JOB IN THE OFFING?


His next target was the Great British Bobby, our police force bringing in the private security companies to do back room work, and light policing.  After sacking the original back room staff, did he not realize that someone has to do the paperwork so that the police can do their job out on the streets, preventing crime and catching criminals?  Or is this an attempt to create:                  JOBS FOR THE BOYS

This week it's the motorways, now cars, vans and lorries are not just having to pay their road tax in the coming months and years.   There will be motor way tolls. When Ken Livingstone introduced the congestion charges for London the conservatives went for blood, however now we are just expected to smile sweetly and say nothing of these charges that are to be introduced by the tories!   !nn! !nn! If you use these private motor ways with the price of petrol and diesel rising the only people that will be able to afford to travel by these roads will be the top 1% of the UK.     In other words the filthy rich financial sector, is this what he intended to make sure that he put road travel out of the reach of the other  99% of the UK public?   Is this another way of putting motorway tailbacks so that him and his cohorts can sail up and down the motorways without having to deal with us (plebs) getting in their way? 

                                                                           WHAT IS THE KICKBACK FOR THIS?


When the Education Minister (Mr Gove) decided to bring in Academy and Free Schools as his pet project there was a promise of "No Council Interference" until some of the Academies failed and then the Councils where told clear up his mess.   Now another round of casualties have been racked up with the tory party practice of elitist snobbery, students that are not seen to perform to the expected targets  are been shipped out to f.e. Colleges to complete their studies. 

                                       PREPARING  FUTURE  GENERATION AS UP AND COMING TORY VOTERS
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by witchfinder on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:32 pm

Privatising what should be public is fundamentaly wrong against the basic principles of democracy.

Who asked me if my taxes should be taken away from public, taxpayer funded roads and given instead to private companys for the sole purpose of making a profit. ?

No one will ever convince me that an organisation whos prime aim is to make money can do a job better than an organisation whos sole aim is to provide a public service, it never happened with water, gas, electricity and it hasent happened with the railways.

If I give my taxes to the government, I want ALL of that money to be spent on public service, why should any of my hard earned taxes end up as profit for some private road operator, or even in the pockets of shareholders in a private health company.
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Ivanhoe on Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:47 pm

witchfinder wrote:Privatising what should be public is fundamentaly wrong against the basic principles of democracy.

Who asked me if my taxes should be taken away from public, taxpayer funded roads and given instead to private companys for the sole purpose of making a profit. ?

No one will ever convince me that an organisation whos prime aim is to make money can do a job better than an organisation whos sole aim is to provide a public service, it never happened with water, gas, electricity and it hasent happened with the railways.

If I give my taxes to the government, I want ALL of that money to be spent on public service, why should any of my hard earned taxes end up as profit for some private road operator, or even in the pockets of shareholders in a private health company.

Precisely witchfinder.
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by astra on Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:18 pm

when my money is taken as Tax for the roads, Tax for the health service, and subs for my supposed pension, THAT is PRECISELY where I want the money to go.

I DO NOT want limp wristed politicos sending my taxes to Africa or India, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

If money has to be sent to these countries, then voluntary donations should be collected, with the millionaires in Parliament personally (no expenses here) contributing their share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Phil Hornby on Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:02 pm

NewToll Charges Fair for All

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" That'll be £25.99 please, Sir - or 50 pence if you have your Conservative Party Membership Card with you..."
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:52 pm

Ulster and Scotland already issue their own currency notes. Can Chipping Norton be the next to do so?
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Post by Redflag on Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:18 pm

oftenwrong wrote:Ulster and Scotland already issue their own currency notes. Can Chipping Norton be the next to do so?

Sorry OW our notes are the same as yours only difference is we get Bank of Scotland but also get Bank of England notes coinage is just the same, I have problems when taking my holidays in England so I get English notes at my P.O. some shops will not except Scottish notes couple of years ago was in Kent and they refused to take my friends Scottish notes, that is the stupid thing about the Independence referendum our monetary system would be controlled by the Bank of England.
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Redflag on Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:38 am


We will have to get Rocket powered engines onto our zimmer frames Ivanhoe if you stand still for too long they will privatize you, is there anything left that they have not privatized?
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Ivanhoe on Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:38 pm

Redflag wrote:

We will have to get Rocket powered engines onto our zimmer frames Ivanhoe if you stand still for too long they will privatize you, is there anything left that they have not privatized?

Redflag, they will privatise the air we breath next.
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by astra on Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:47 pm

The ground is being prepared for just that outcome


Seen all the no-smoking, no-farting zones going up??
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by Ivanhoe on Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:52 pm

astra wrote:The ground is being prepared for just that outcome


Seen all the no-smoking, no-farting zones going up??

There's "always one".
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Re: If the Tories are in power, it must be private!

Post by trevorw2539 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:34 pm

by astra Today at 12:47 pm



The ground is being prepared for just that outcome


Seen all the no-smoking, no-farting zones going up??

No more Indian curries. No more Baked beans.
And how do you stop cows............ Who pays their fine?


Talking to my youngest son (22 years). Neither he or my oldest (25) have ever voted. They live with their mother and stepfather but visit most weeks, circumstances allowing. I've tried to get them interested in politics and the youngest is beginning to think, in between his studies at Uni. Incidentally he said to me, quite out of the blue, 'this country will be privately owned soon'. When I picked myself up I agreed with him. He sees the way things are going and is unhappy too.

Having bored you with the above - a question.
There are, to my mind, 3 types of people in Britain.
Those who stick rigidly to whatever party they have always belonged regardless.
Those who are thinkers, and take time to consider policies etc.
Those who just sit and moan about their lot, but do nothing about it. Not even to visit the Poll booth.

The first 2 groups we need not bother with, in the sense they take care of themselves. The first you will probably never change. The second will weigh up the options and decide themselves.

THE QUESTION.

What do we do about the last group? before its too late.
If this has been discussed before ignore me and point me in the right direction.
This isn't meant as a special debate. Just a general thought.

But then, what do I know.
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Post by blueturando on Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:59 pm

What do we do about the last group? before its too late

Some people are sheep and will just follow what's being fed to them

Some people are just not interested, bothered or have the intelligence or desire to follow politics and what it means to them.

Some people just like to moan, no matter what or who is in charge....Voting would mean they may have to take some responsibility if they dont get what they like.

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Post by Ivanhoe on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:19 pm

"some people are sheep".  Hark at the poit calling the kettle, black

Some people are just not interested.  Im not "interested", but I am "concerned", there is a vital difference.

Somone people just moan, ect ect ect.

And here we have the true Tory mantra, coming from a little cog in the wheel, but all those little cogs make up a big cog, and make this big British judgement on their "own" fellow country men and woman.   These little cogs have a perswonal gripe about irresponsibility.  Yet the very political party these little cogs aspire to, are selling Britain down the drain.  Now if this isnt irresponsibility, I dont know what is ????????????????
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Post by blueturando on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:35 pm

Ivanhoe....Why are you being a complete Tosser!!! Get over your self man and grow up!!!!

I was answering Trevor's post on why I thought 'some' people didn't vote or have no interest in voting...it has nothing to do with party politics

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Post by tlttf on Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:59 pm

Ivan, I note with some disdain that like all left footers you attack anybody that even appears not to love your beloved troughite party. Why is that?

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Post by bobby on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:06 pm

blueturando, Had your post been aimed at one particular person, may I suggest you mention in your post who that person is. If you fail to personalise your message, you must not get out of you wee pram is someone else responds, even if it is only Ivanhoe.
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Post by tlttf on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:11 pm

Hiya bobby, long time no speak, hope all is well with you and yours and that the italian enterprise is buzzing.

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Post by Ivanhoe on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:15 pm

blueturando wrote:Ivanhoe....Why are you being a complete Tosser!!! Get over your self man and grow up!!!!

I was answering Trevor's post on why I thought 'some' people didn't vote or have no interest in voting...it has nothing to do with party politics

Bluey, I know precisely what you were doing, and you have the gall to call "me" a complete tosser.??????????
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Post by blueturando on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:16 pm

Bobby.....My post was in response to the post prior to mine (Trevor's) and I did paste in the question he posed....followed by my answer.

Ivanhoe must be having a bad hair day Smile

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Post by blueturando on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:18 pm

Well don't act like one then Ivanhoe...
Read Trevor's post and then read my response.....Nowhere in either was there a reference to party politics, just apathy on the part of some people in the UK when it comes to voting

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Post by Ivanhoe on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:20 pm

blueturando wrote:Well don't act like one then Ivanhoe...
Read Trevor's post and then read my response.....Nowhere in either was there a reference to party politics, just apathy on the part of some people in the UK when it comes to voting

I read what you wrote Bluey, and I simply had to respond. And I did.
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Post by trevorw2539 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:23 pm

by blueturando Today at 2:59 pm




What do we do about the last group? before its too late

Quote Blueturando

Some people are sheep and will just follow what's being fed to them

Some people are just not interested, bothered or have the intelligence or desire to follow politics and what it means to them.

Some people just like to moan, no matter what or who is in charge....Voting would mean they may have to take some responsibility if they dont get what they like.

That's three negatives.

Rather like government policies at the moment. We can't deal with it, sell it to someone else.

I don't have the answers. I'm not a Politician or economist. But I don't like all the work and years of effort by myself, my father and grandfather sinking beneath the waves. The Titanic sank, not because of the workers, but those in charge.
I see the SS Great Britain sinking. All its assets stripped. Until it becomes like the Mary Rose.Sad

But then, what do I know.
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Post by bobby on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:48 pm

Hello Landy. Yes i'm doing fine, thankfully I am not reliant on the UK economy, so long as there are oil rich arabs who want fancy cars I shouldn't have a problem. As for the holiday park, the vast majority of my punters are Germans, and they are booking as though they haven'y a care in the world.

Hows the big bad world treating the Forgots? equally well I hope.
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Post by trevorw2539 on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:55 pm

Ooops. I didn't intend to start WW3.Embarassed Wink
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Post by tlttf on Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:09 pm

Hanging in there mate. Very Happy

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Post by Redflag on Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:20 pm

Ivanhoe wrote:
Redflag wrote:

We will have to get Rocket powered engines onto our zimmer frames Ivanhoe if you stand still for too long they will privatize you, is there anything left that they have not privatized?

Redflag, they will privatise the air we breath next.

I could of told you that some years ago I was waiting for thatcher to put meters on our backs so she could charge us for the air we breathed.
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Post by bobby on Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:31 pm

Thanks Landy, will do.
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:39 pm

blueturando wrote:
What do we do about the last group? before its too late



Some people just like to moan, no matter what or who is in charge....Voting would mean they may have to take some responsibility if they dont get what they like.

Responsibility is the hardest word if you're a Lib-Dem.
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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:02 am

oftenwrong wrote:
blueturando wrote:
What do we do about the last group? before its too late



Some people just like to moan, no matter what or who is in charge....Voting would mean they may have to take some responsibility if they dont get what they like.

Responsibility is the hardest word if you're a Lib-Dem.

You could be right OW but the local elections in May when they have to face the public they are in for a shock and not a very pleasant one, but they have become as good as Tories for telling BARE FACED lies so know they are Yellow Tories.
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Post by Mel on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:55 am

blue wrote "Some people are sheep and will just follow what's being fed to them"

"Some people are just not interested, bothered or have the intelligence or desire to follow politics."

For once blue and probably the last I agree with you.

You point out exactly the reason why we have a Tory led so called Coalition, elected by default.
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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:19 am

Mel wrote:blue wrote "Some people are sheep and will just follow what's being fed to them"

"Some people are just not interested, bothered or have the intelligence or desire to follow politics."

For once blue and probably the last I agree with you.

You point out exactly the reason why we have a Tory led so called Coalition, elected by default.

And for how long Mel will they behave like sheep I think Scam..er..on and his cohorts must be running out of luck, how far can the Tories push the British public before they start to push back IMHO either a General Strike or a REVOLUTION.
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Post by Ivanhoe on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:00 pm

Redflag wrote:
Mel wrote:blue wrote "Some people are sheep and will just follow what's being fed to them"

"Some people are just not interested, bothered or have the intelligence or desire to follow politics."

For once blue and probably the last I agree with you.

You point out exactly the reason why we have a Tory led so called Coalition, elected by default.

And for how long Mel will they behave like sheep I think Scam..er..on and his cohorts must be running out of luck, how far can the Tories push the British public before they start to push back IMHO either a General Strike or a REVOLUTION.

Pardon me for interjecting, but the British will remain largely docile sheep, particularly, "all" those who continue to vote Tory.
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Post by blueturando on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:21 pm

Pardon me for interjecting, but the British will remain largely docile sheep, particularly, "all" those who continue to vote Tory

In your expert opinion?

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Post by Ivanhoe on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:55 pm

blueturando wrote:
Pardon me for interjecting, but the British will remain largely docile sheep, particularly, "all" those who continue to vote Tory

In your expert opinion?

"If the cap fits".
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Post by Redflag on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:10 pm

Ivanhoe wrote:
blueturando wrote:
Pardon me for interjecting, but the British will remain largely docile sheep, particularly, "all" those who continue to vote Tory

In your expert opinion?

"If the cap fits".

Just been watching the budget and i think your original post suits Ivanhoe and after what I have heard it will get worse.
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Post by blueturando on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:50 pm

Just been watching the budget and i think your original post suits Ivanhoe and after what I have heard it will get worse..

What will get worse

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Post by Ivanhoe on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:03 pm

blueturando wrote:
Just been watching the budget and i think your original post suits Ivanhoe and after what I have heard it will get worse..

What will get worse

Are you pleased with the Budget, bluey ?
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Post by Mel on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:18 pm

Of course he is Ivanhoe, top rate of tax reduced for starters and a small help for small businesses which of course becomes a massive assistance to the very rich businessmen as really intended.

Banks will not get the help, Gideon dare not, but all other greedy buggers will be fed more wealth.
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