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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:56 pm

Jacob Rees-Mogg has been the Tory MP for North East Somerset since the general election of 2010. He went to Eton and Oxford, worked in finance and married the heiress Helena de Chair, with whom he has three sons and a daughter.
 
Why do I suggest that Rees-Mogg is eccentric?
 
- When he was the Tory candidate for Central Fife in 1997, he canvassed a largely working class neighbourhood with his nanny. (He received 9% of the votes.)
 
- He has named his three sons Peter Theodore Alphege, Tom Wentworth Somerset Dunstan and Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam.
 
- In a House of Commons debate on the remuneration of EU staff in 2012, he used the word ‘floccinaucinihilipilification’, making it the longest word to be recorded in Hansard. (It’s Eton jargon meaning ‘unimportant’ or ‘worthless’.)
 
- He tried to amend the Daylight Saving Bill to give the county of Somerset its own time zone, 15 minutes behind London.
 
- He thinks that council officials who have the power to issue on-the-spot fines should be forced to wear bowler hats.
 
What evidence is there to suggest that Rees-Mogg is just plain nasty?
 
- He thinks that zero-hours contracts are “beneficial to employees”, who are “able to say no”. He doesn’t attempt to explain how employees are supposed to make ends meet if they have no income for weeks on end.
 
- He’s tried to rewrite history by saying that “the model of the flint-faced Victorian employer grinding the poor never was particularly accurate but today such an image is even more false". Dickens got it all wrong, did he? Those weavers in Rochdale didn’t really need to set up the Co-op just because people were being paid in currency issued by their employers which could only be used in their employers’ shops? The early 20th century working conditions in Hastings described in ‘The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists’ are pure fiction, are they?
 
- He attended the annual dinner of the Traditional Britain Group as its guest speaker. He was warned in advance that the group, formed in 2001, consists of very nasty, extreme right-wing racists (they want Stephen Lawrence’s mother, and millions of others, “returned to their natural homelands”), but he still went to the function. Labour MP Sheila Gilmore said: “It’s shocking that a Conservative MP would associate himself with a group which has such extreme and unpleasant views, despite reportedly being warned by Searchlight. Condoning views like these is not harmless fun or mild eccentricity – it is deeply offensive and shows a lack of respect and common sense. It’s yet another example of a Tory who is completely out of touch with modern Britain.”
 
Jacob Rees-Mogg is comically known by parliamentary sketch writers as 'the Honourable Member for the Early 20th Century'. 21,130 people in North East Somerset voted for this clown in 2010. He’s so stupid that in March 2009 he was forced to apologise to Trevor Kavanagh, the former political editor of ‘The Sun’, after he plagiarised sections of a Kavanagh article. He’s proof, as if we needed it, that there are lots of idiots who will vote for any halfwit as long as it’s wearing a blue rosette.
 
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:36 pm

Self-parody requires little external comment. Monty Python did several sketches pillorying upper-class twits, and the mystery is how some of them have never caught the joke, even now.
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Post by sickchip on Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:03 pm

What does it say about those who elected him? Rolling Eyes 
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Post by boatlady on Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:15 am

Ivan, most of what you describe sounds like the kind of aspiring intellectual who doesn't have any ideas of his own so goes the route of being as off-the -wall as possible in the hope of seeming original - as Sick says - what does that say about the idiots that voted him in? - unless, that is, the alternatives were even worse?
Perhaps the problem is, that it's just this type of person, in various different guises, that gets into politics - people of good sense and good conscience on the whole seem to opt out, seeing what a dirty nasty business it seems to be.
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Post by Penderyn on Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:56 pm

He is just an incompetent half-wit. What sort of system would throw up such a clown?
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Post by Redflag on Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:15 pm

Penderyn wrote:He is just an incompetent half-wit.   What sort of system would throw up such a clown?
This is quite weird. I have just come back from Weston-Super-Mare which is in Somerset, as for JRM it does not seem from what I saw that he is doing anything for Somerset, it is in much the same state as the rest of the UK. I did see another article that at least 50 Tory MPs will not be standing in the 2015 general election REASON Salary is not enough for the hours and the work that MPs do, it's the only job that I know that gets £66,400 per year and their week stops on a Thursday lunch time allowing them to go to their constituencies and help the people that voted for them in 2010.
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Post by Redflag on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:24 am

Penderyn wrote:He is just an incompetent half-wit.   What sort of system would throw up such a clown?
To put it this way Penderyn Jabcob Rees Mogg is "THE NINNY with a NANNY"
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Post by boatlady on Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:58 pm

Red - you do get around
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Post by Redflag on Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:15 pm

boatlady wrote:Red - you do get around

Not do I only get around boatlady I take notice of what is going on, and Somerset is suffering like the rest of the UK, high street shops homes up for sale and what surprised me is Cheddar Gorge the shops there are having a real rough time because people can not afford a holiday or even a day out.
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:12 pm

Yet the Motor Industry anticipates a bumper September selling more cars than ever as the number-plates drop that dreaded number 13.
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Post by boatlady on Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:13 pm

See, that's what gets me confused - I know there's real deprivation going on - so how come so many people can afford nice shiny new cars (something I've never been able to afford meself)??
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:27 pm

The method is sometimes described as, "Have it now and afford it later."
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Post by Ivan on Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:50 pm

boatlady wrote:-
how come so many people can afford nice shiny new cars
 
There are 63 million people in the UK. It’s the seventh richest country in the world, so somebody must have some money. And as OW has implied, others get bank loans to buy what they want when they want it.
 
Not everyone suffers during a recession or periods of austerity. Anyone with money to spare can pick up bargains from traders desperate to sell their goods (the sales in shops never seem to end). Some can even afford to snap up properties that have been repossessed because unfortunate souls couldn’t meet their mortgage payments. In November 2008, that Tory skunk Andrew Lansley said “recessions can be good for you”. Presumably he meant they were good for rich people like him – and maybe Jacob Rees-Mogg?
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Post by boatlady on Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Now you mention it - my wardrobe has improved.
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Post by oftenwrong on Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:36 pm

err, incidentally, the People running GB.PLC are more than happy for us to concern ourselves with upper-class twits while they get on with their business of stripping the Nation's assets.
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Post by boatlady on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:56 am

Good point - what you might call the Peter Whimsy effect
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Post by Redflag on Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:26 pm

boatlady wrote:See, that's what gets me confused - I know there's real deprivation going on - so how come so many people can afford nice shiny new cars (something I've never been able to afford meself)??
It could be that BANK BONUSES are due in September boatlady.
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Post by bobby on Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:01 pm

I read some time ago that this rise in car sales is export led, and why should they not go abroad, they are hardly English cars "are they?"
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Post by Penderyn on Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:47 pm

oftenwrong wrote:err, incidentally, the People running GB.PLC are more than happy for us to concern ourselves with upper-class twits while they get on with their business of stripping the Nation's assets.
It's a game they've been playing for 150 years at least. They NEED the aristocracy. Think of Lloyd George out-manoeuvring nascent Labour by taking on the evil House of Lords!
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Post by Redflag on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:04 pm

Not forgetting that Tony Blair also took on the House of Lords, Penderyn, and got rid of most of the Hereditary Peers.
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Post by Ivan on Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:57 pm

oftenwrong wrote:-
....the People running GB.PLC are more than happy for us to concern ourselves with upper-class twits while they get on with their business of stripping the Nation's assets.
Precisely. We’re meant to laugh at the antics of creeps like Jacob Rees-Mogg – and the 17-stone Mayor of London – since that provides a convenient distraction for the vile policies which they support. Rees-Mogg tries to justify zero-hours contracts, pretends that Victorian employers were better than the evidence proves and recently spoke at a dinner of far-right overt racists. He’s just another very nasty Tory – and so is Boris Johnson.
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Post by Redflag on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:13 am

It's all over the papers today about Scam..er..ons and his FOUR HOLIDAYS since May 2013, I think JRM is just the bog standanrd profile of a Tory, Brainless Spineless and Useless, poor excuse for a human being who does not know his Ass from his elbow but then again is there a Posh git out there that does?
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Post by Penderyn on Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:02 pm

Redflag wrote:Not forgetting that Tony Blair also took on the House of Lords, Penderyn, and got rid of most of the Hereditary Peers.
So?   Replace 'em with workers' delegates, did he? Lloyd George at least took away some of their power.
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Post by Redflag on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:47 pm

I do not know why you're so down on Tony Blair, Penderyn, when Cameron has put more than his fair share of old school pals and donors who have given the Tory party huge donations.  There are now 838 Lords within the house of Lords and that needs to lose around 600 so our democracy will not cost us so much money.
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Post by Ivan on Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:11 pm

Why I believe we must give Clegg's job to Nigel Farage... and get in bed with UKIP

From an article by Jacob Rees-Mogg:-

"About two-thirds of UKIP supporters are former Conservatives. Thus the split in the Tory family – demonstrated by Douglas Carswell’s defection last month – potentially paves the way for Ed Miliband to win despite having little more than one-third of the vote. The obvious answer is for the Tories and UKIP to do a pre-election deal.

What is certain is that David Cameron’s promise of an in/out referendum if returned in 2015 is sincere and can only happen if he wins. This means that UKIP can achieve its main policy objective only if the Tories win the election – yet it is the principal obstacle to this happening. Cameron has the opportunity to solve the problem now if he is generous. The undoubted talents and charisma of Nigel Farage should be recognised. He appeals to not only traditional Conservative members but also to those who have felt disenfranchised, people who feel that politicians are part of a too-cosy establishment while UKIP is shaking it up.

Prior to the election such an offer needs to help UKIP in its ambition to win parliamentary seats. This could start with the House of Lords where, in spite of its recent electoral success, no new UKIP peer has been created. It needs to be followed by deals in individual seats. There are a number vacant because of retirement, which may be suitable, as well as ones where the Conservatives cannot expect to win and where UKIP is making inroads against Labour. After the election, if this strategy were adopted, there would be four cabinet posts available through the removal of the Liberal Democrats
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Post by oftenwrong on Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:59 pm

.... and if he had some eggs we could have eggs and bacon - but there's no bacon.

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Post by Redflag on Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:43 pm

Penderyn wrote:He is just an incompetent half-wit.   What sort of system would throw up such a clown?

Rees Mogg is not the only clown Doris Johnston is another Tory A**E HOLE Penderyn lol!
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Post by ghost whistler on Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:48 pm

He's another toff born with a silver spoon into a family who's wealth came from stealing land.

People in rural communities such as somerset (where i live) may not always seem to struggle, but there are are particular issues in rural communities that are overlooked. Lack of opportunities, high cost of living, lack of choices for things like shopping (unless you want to spend in expensive local shops - wuality notwithstanding), public transport issues and costs.

For example, First Bus, who run the public buses round here, just ditched return tickets which has meant a shocking and sneaky price increase. This has been to offset the miniscule fare reductions they offered in Bristol, all to appease the critics. Their service is still shabby and still profit driven and now I, living outside the city, am paying anything from an extra 50p - £2 per journey! Do benefit claiamnts get a commensurate increase to meet the already steep price of public buses?

These problems won't affect tory scum like Mogg since he's never had to worry about a dime in his life.

In my constituency we have a tory and the battle has been between Libs and the Tories. With hindsight my vote - liberal - was stolen in 2010, but I shan't make that mistake again. The libdems even rang me (and presumably everyone else since I'm not on their radar) to beg for my vote saying how close it would be. If only I'd known what the result would have been and how these liars have stitched up the electorate.

So who do i vote for next year? Labour dont' stand a chance locally, but they are the only alternative to this filth in power right now. Round here it's all sewn up by local tradesmen and landowners.
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Post by Redflag on Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:13 pm

GW do not be so hard on yourself you where not the only one the Fib-Dems LIED too look st what they said to the Uni students, I nearly voted Fib-Dem to keep the Tories out of HOC. I was lucky my local Labour MP had an activist at the polling station who stood and spoke to me for around 30 minutes then I went in and voted Labour making the right choice.

I do feel for you GW I have a very good friend who lives in an area that will always return a Tory MP (silly pluckers) so Labour do not have a hope in hell of getting a Labour MPs in some areas not unless these people wake up ands smell the coffee because when the poor and the low paid have not got anything else for the Tories to take they will turn around and eat there own in areas that have time after time returned a Tory MP.
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Post by oftenwrong on Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:42 pm

Cameron probably thought he had been terribly clever in stifling Lib-Dems hopes of achieving a change to our electoral system, but Clegg returned the compliment by declining support for boundary-changes, without which Tories are unlikely to obtain a majority in Parliament. Which remains a self-fulfilling prophecy whatever aid might be obtained from the right-wing Press.
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Post by ghost whistler on Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:36 pm

Redflag wrote:GW do not be so hard on yourself you where not the only one the Fib-Dems LIED too look st what they said to the Uni students, I nearly voted Fib-Dem to keep the Tories out of HOC. I was lucky my local Labour MP had an activist at the polling station who stood and spoke to me for around 30 minutes then I went in and voted Labour making the right choice.

I do feel for you GW I have a very good friend who lives in an area that will always return a Tory MP (silly pluckers) so Labour do not have a hope in hell of getting a Labour MPs in some areas not unless these people wake up ands smell the coffee because when the poor and the low paid have not got anything else for the Tories to take they will turn around and eat there own in areas that have time after time returned a Tory MP.
I appreciate the sentiment, but what hope is there in labour when Miliband forgets half his speech, Balls promises austerity will continue, and the party shuffles out disabled members to get them off camera so Miliband can be surrounded by the 'bright young things'. I wish there was a fugture with labour, but I don't see it. Miliband is utterly utterly hopeless.
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Post by keenobserver1 on Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:40 pm

I appreciate the sentiment, but what hope is there in labour when Miliband forgets half his speech, Balls promises austerity will continue, and the party shuffles out disabled members to get them off camera so Miliband can be surrounded by the 'bright young things'. I wish there was a fugture with labour, but I don't see it. Miliband is utterly utterly hopeless.

I wonder where we've seen the tactic of using "bright young things" to promote political values previously? sarcasm
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Post by Ivan on Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:50 pm

I wonder where we've seen the tactic of using "bright young things" to promote political values previously?
Was it when Jacob Rees-Mogg was canvassing in a working class district of Fife with his nanny?  scratch

He now wants to "get into bed" with UKIP. Will his nanny be there to tuck him up?  Rolling Eyes

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Ivan wrote:Was it when Jacob Rees-Mogg was canvassing in a working class district of Fife with his nanny?  scratch

He now wants to "get into bed" with UKIP. Will his nanny be there to tuck him up?  Rolling Eyes
Might have been, as others have recently thought that lowering the voting age can be used to their advantage.
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Ivan thank you for video, at least he tells the truth about the nasty Tories but what a TOSSER JRM is
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Bit of an idiot too, judging from all that
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Boatlady he is doing what other Tories do spouting a load of VERBAL DIARROHEA as usual .
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