Is this another Tory scandal brewing? (Part 2)

by Redflag Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:23 pm

First topic message reminder :

Maybe Goves wife will provide the job seekers with the money to buy her expensive facial creams, and maybe while she is at it she could take them out and buy them a new outfit to attend there interview with so they can get a zero hour contract job. lol!

by stuart torr Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:47 am

With all the millions they all have OW, it is just the interest working for them is it not gaining more each day.

by Redflag Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:02 pm

stuart torr wrote:With all the millions they all have OW, it is just the interest working for them is it not gaining more each day.

The re they have stuart the more they want "GREEDY SCUMBAGS" stuart

by **astradt1** Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:00 pm

Miliband yesterday intervened in the row over alleged tax avoidance linked to HSBC's Swiss subsidiary by naming Lord Fink in the Commons as a holder of an account at the Geneva branch and accusing David Cameron of being "a dodgy Prime Minister surrounded by dodgy donors".

The former Tory treasurer branded Miliband's jibe "untrue and defamatory" and challenged him to step out from the cover of parliamentary privilege so he could take legal action - something Labour sources said Miliband would do as he launches the party's education policy in a speech in north London later today.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/12/tory-donor-lord-fink-admits-vanilla-tax-avoidance_n_6668528.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

24 Hours later................

Tory Donor Lord Fink Admits 'Vanilla' Tax Avoidance In Victory For Miliband

Conservative donor Lord Fink has backed away from threats to sue Labour leader Ed Miliband over allegations of tax avoidance, as he admitted he did take "vanilla" measures to reduce his liabilities.

Lord Fink told the Standard: "The expression tax avoidance is so wide that everyone does tax avoidance at some level."

He said he had rejected expert advice that he could save a fortune by adopting "aggressive" avoidance measures, but added: "I chose the mildest end of the spectrum that I was advised on. What I did ... was at the vanilla, bland, end of the spectrum."

Well there you have it.........Dodgy Dave and Friends.......

by boatlady Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:18 pm

Been grinning all day

by stuart torr Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:31 am

by oftenwrong Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:12 pm

Dave's not having a good time just now, is he? HSBC; Rifkind and now this ......

A trial date has been set in Scotland for the former Downing Street communications director Andy Coulson.

Mr Coulson faces a charge of lying in court while giving evidence at the 2010 trial of former Scottish MSP Tommy Sheridan and his wife Gail.

At the High Court in Edinburgh, the judge Lord Burns set a trial date of 21 April.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/perjury-trial-for-andy-coulson-in-april/ar-BBhT2fn

by Redflag Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:23 am

If Coulson is found guilty of this charge the SNP will taunt the Tories with it hoping it will help the cause of the SNP to gain Independence for Scotland which is really what they want.

by **Ivan** Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:41 pm

Grant Shapps admits he had second job as 'millionaire web marketer' while MP

Extracts from an article by Randeep Ramesh:-

Grant Shapps, the Tory Party chairman, had a second job as a ‘multimillion-dollar web marketer’ under the pseudonym Michael Green for at least year after he first became an MP. It is a suggestion that Shapps has repeatedly denied for three years, but ‘The Guardian’ has discovered a recording from the summer of 2006 in which the Conservative MP for Welwyn Hatfield boasts his products could make listeners a “ton of cash by Christmas”. Rather than running down his operations, it appears that in 2006 Shapps was expanding the company.

Since 2012, when pictures emerged of Shapps in 2004 at a $3,000-a-head US internet conference wearing a badge describing himself as ‘Michael Green’, he consistently defended himself saying he had stopped being Green after he took his seat in the Commons. When confronted with the audio, a Tory Party spokesman said that Shapps now conceded “his writing career [as Green]... ended shortly after [becoming an MP].”

Last November Shapps used legal threats to force an ex-Labour councillor to delete an allegedly libellous post on Facebook about his use of the pseudonym, and to replace it with an apology that explicitly states that he was not using the Green pseudonym when he was an MP. Shadow solicitor general Karl Turner said: “He went on live radio just three weeks ago and stated three times that he was not doing business as Michael Green while he was an MP. Cameron must now order an immediate inquiry into Shapps’ conduct and establish all the facts in the interests of the public.”

For the whole article:-
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/15/grant-shapps-admits-he-had-second-job-as-millioniare-web-marketer-while-mp

by oftenwrong Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:45 pm

The Conservative Party Chairman "has become the story" which is sometimes fatal to a political career.

Likewise "David Cameron has expressed his "full confidence" in Grant Shapps" .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11474907/David-Cameron-has-full-confidence-in-Grant-Shapps.html

As in John Major's government of the early 1990s, when some of them began to believe they could walk on water, the end is not far off.

by **Ivan** Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:21 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in5PB8f0yA8

by **Ivan** Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:25 am

Grant Shapps is a lying liar who tells lies

A detailed analysis by Tim Ireland of the spiv and bully who, despite recent revelations, is still chairman of the Tory Party:-

http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2015/03/grant-shapps-liar/

by Redflag Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:45 am

IVAN If this had been a Labour MP the Tories would have had a fit if Labour had not sacked him, and more than likely used it against the Labour party in there nasty smear campaign of the Labour party.

Just to let you all know in yesterdays D/Mirror the Labour canidate in Wirral West Fester McVeys seat is 5% ahead of her I think that will be my next port of call when I come back from Carlisle, so if you have any info on who is the candidate or who is the Labour organizer in WW I would be gratefull if you could send it to me via CE. cheers

by **Ivan** Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:10 am

Redflag. Margaret Greenwood is the Labour candidate taking on Esther McVey in Wirral West. You'll be in good company if you go there, as Tony ('Baldrick') Robinson is going to be helping out.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/labour-choose-candidate-take-esther-4019400

by Redflag Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:40 am

Can you get me a bit more info Ivan as too where there campaign office is or a e-mail address so that I can contact Margaret Greenwood thanks Ivan. cheers

by oftenwrong Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:04 am

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24882/esther_mcvey/wirral_west

by Redflag Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:21 pm

I knew most of what is in your link OW, that she is a nasty piece of work & a poor excuse for a human being plus she is a BLOODY NOTED LIAR just like the rest of her ILK.

by **Ivan** Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:50 pm

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by boatlady Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:32 am

Interesting --

by **astradt1** Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:09 am

Remember how the Tory's always went on about unions using 'Rent-A-Mob' when strikes took place to start trouble with the police...............I always thought it was the Tory's who were the instigators ........

by boatlady Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:13 am

Certainly makes you wonder

by stuart torr Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:04 pm

The racists are just using them because they are cheap and a lot support the conservatives for giving them money no sooner they step on british soil, then they can do no wrong, even when they do!!

by **Ivan** Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:00 pm

Sinister Conservative dirty tricks campaign to target Ed Miliband is revealed

From an article by Vincent Moss and May Bulman:-

"A sinister Tory plot to use flashmobs to derail Ed Miliband’s election campaign can be revealed. Concealing their identity with masks of SNP ex-leader Alex Salmond, Conservative activists were among protesters, some of whom pushed and shoved the Labour leader in a sudden attack. A ‘Sunday Mirror’ investigation has found the protest was organised by Tim Smith, a press officer at Conservative HQ, which is headed by party chairman Grant Shapps.

The alarming incident in London has raised fears about politicians’ safety as the general election battle heats up. It comes just days after UKIP leader Nigel Farage was hounded as he tried to have a pub lunch with his family.

In the ambush on Mr Miliband, protesters in Alex Salmond masks surrounded him as he left a meeting in Rotherhithe, south-east London. Police are investigating the incident. Labour insiders believe the group of Tory activists, including press officer Smith, was tipped off about the location by a Conservative-supporting newspaper – despite the security risks."

For the whole article:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sinister-conservative-dirty-tricks-campaign-5420141

by Redflag Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:22 am

Ivan wrote:Redflag. Margaret Greenwood is the Labour candidate taking on Esther McVey in Wirral West. You'll be in good company if you go there, as Tony ('Baldrick') Robinson is going to be helping out.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/labour-choose-candidate-take-esther-4019400

Ivan have been in touch with West Wirral and I am off on the 9th April have my train tickets and hotel booked, & hoping my "HELL YES" tee-shirt by the time I go will et you know how things went when I get back.

by Redflag Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:32 am

IVAN Thank you for the link sorry to say this does not surprise me low life Tories will do anything to get back into power, so they can give there donors and supporters more tax cuts off the back of people claiming some sort of Welfare benefit in & out of work. to let the rest of the forum know the LABOUR TEAM are offering a "HELL YES" tee-shirt IF you donate £10.00 or more to the Labour party to help them fight the low-down filthy Tories.

by oftenwrong Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:16 am

It's normally considered correct to fight for what you believe in, but the Tories realise full well that in this election they are fighting for survival.

Queensbury Rules and The Hague Convention are suspended.

by boatlady Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:37 pm

This was a shocking event - we are accustomed to seeing over-enthusiastic heckling from voters that can get out of hand - a planned assault by a rival political party is really not OK by any measure - next the Tories will be assassinating rivals - hope the perpetrators get the book thrown at them.

by bobby Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:42 pm

The only thing they will get thrown at them are pages from a check book.

by boatlady Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:45 pm

You may well be right Evil or Very Mad

by **Ivan** Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:02 pm

Can you imagine the uproar there would be if a senior Labour politician had helped a fraudster get a loan?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/did-theresa-mays-help-get-a-convicted-us-criminal-600000-of-public-money-for-a-business-loan-10156460.html

by Redflag Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:14 pm

IVAN nothing from the Tories surprises me anymore its one law for them and another for us Plebs

by stuart torr Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:28 pm

Oh so true as we are just paving stones to them that get walked all over.

by boatlady Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:34 pm

Have to admit to feeling a bit of glee at the thought of the obnoxious Theresa May maybe getting caught in wrong doing

by stuart torr Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:44 pm

Now that would be nice would it not boatlady, Laughing

by boatlady Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:00 pm

I could even stand seeing her face on the news more often in the interest of seeing her, and her obnoxious party, seriously embarrassed

by bobby Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:22 pm

There's the rub, the Tories are so out of touch with ordinary folk they actually believe in all they say, that is why you will never see the look of embarrassment on their boat races.

by stuart torr Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:31 pm

tHE ONLY REDNESS ON THEIR BOATRACES BOBBY IS THEIR LATEST BLOODY SUNTAN.

by Redflag Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:31 am

bobby wrote:There's the rub, the Tories are so out of touch with ordinary folk they actually believe in all they say, that is why you will never see the look of embarrassment on their boat races.

Bo I have often wondered why the Tories tongues do not fall out with all the LIES they have told the people of the UK since 2010, as for them going red faced or get embarrassment about telling blatant Lies is because the all have "BRASS NECKS"

by **Ivan** Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:59 pm

This story, dating from October 2013, might explain why the Tories were so anxious to get the focus off non-doms as quickly as possible.... Shocked

Tory election strategist Lynton Crosby linked to Malta tax haven

From an article by Rajeev Syal:-

'The Daily Mirror' reported that Crosby's Maltese firm, Rutland Ltd, was run from the offices of a trust firm specialising in "wealth preservation". A spokesman for Crosby's UK firm, CTF Partners, confirmed that Crosby, an Australian who lives in the UK, was a non-domicile – "non-dom" – but insisted he paid his "full tax obligations".

After disclosures about the comedian Jimmy Carr using a legal scheme to avoid tax, Cameron said: "Some of these schemes we have seen are quite frankly morally wrong. It is not fair on hardworking people who do the right thing and pay their taxes to see these sorts of scams".

CTF is reportedly being paid £200,000 a year for working one day a week on plans to get the Tories elected in 2015.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/03/tory-lynton-crosby-linked-tax-haven

by stuart torr Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:13 pm

What a lying two faced hypocrite,fits in well with the tories does he not Ivan? Laughing

by **Phil Hornby** Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:19 pm

It comes as no surprise that the despicable Duncan Smith has weighed in by supporting Fallon's poisonous comments. Can this party of vermin find ways to get any worse?

by stuart torr Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:36 pm

I'M afraid so Phil, it could get re-elected. Sad

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